Who Thinks Bush Deserves The Death Penalty?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Jan 23, 2007 @ 5:19pm |
 Coolness: 509515 | Originally Posted By ANGUS_SMUGGLEBUM
Originally Posted By ScottyP
I don't see bush sacrificing millions of people anywhere, there are thousands of soldiers in Iraq, in a VOLUNTEER ARMY. They didn't have to join the army. Saddam Hussain was taken out of power, and eventually killed (officially for war crimes), in the name of 'self-defense'. If you support taking out leaders in the name of self-defence, then you support actions such as the Iraq war. Yeah, you're right being born in iraq means you don't deserve to live. It's voluntary, their parents didn't have to have kids. [ www.washingtonpost.com ] "Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000" If bush had not invaded iraq, those people would not be dead right now. Dude, do some research first... Iraq has been at war for the last 30+ years, with or without the States. Remember the Gulf War? Do you know what it was about and why the US was involved at all? Do you know about Desert Storm or Iran's involvement? Or Egypt or Israel or Germany or the Soviets? What about France, England, Saudhi Arabia, Japan and Brasil? You have NO clue what I'm talking about do you? All you see if that Bush invaded Iraq about 6 years ago. No one alive in Iraq today has lived to see a day of peace in that country and it is most certainly NOT due to the US. The US is trying to clean it up; no I don't agree they are doing it properly but you really have to understand the history before making statements like that. Just so you know, Iraq is not on big united country, it's split into three religious sects who have been fighting and killing each other for decades if not centuries. AND the US army is trying to eliminate the militant partitions of those three groups, only problem is now not only are Iraquians fighting each other, but now they have the States to fight and the States have THREE enemies to hold off. THAT'S why there's more death, it's often been said that if the States left Iraq now, there would be a civil war... a 'civil' war. They'd be fighting with or without the US army and civilians would be dying either way. My only concession is that perhaps fewer people would die without the US there, but the future almost depends on them now, whether you like it or not. Oh and I don't give a fuck about Bush, he's old and he's going to have to live with his mistakes. Death is the easy way out. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Tue Jan 23, 2007 @ 5:22pm |
 Coolness: 83830 | i don't think you have to be a hippy to see that violence doesn't solve anything and just makes things worse in just about EVERY SITUATION.
fighting fire with fire just makes it alot more likely for someone to get burned. and half the time these fuckin' wars don't even end... iraq... vietnam... palestine... like fuck... whats it take to realise its just a waste of time and money that could be spent fixing more important problems like the environment and making other scientific advances? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Danz replied on Tue Jan 23, 2007 @ 6:21pm |
 Coolness: 37895 | Crappy peace and love thread. that's because of people like you that Quebec province is being buried under a crapload of ''accomodements raisonables''. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Tue Jan 23, 2007 @ 6:59pm |
 Coolness: 55455 | and it's because of people like you that our birthrate is negative. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Amp_Up replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 9:46am |
 Coolness: 83290 | Originally Posted By MURDOCK_ROCKLIKE FUCK... WHATS IT TAKE TO REALISE ITS JUST A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT FIXING MORE IMPORTANT PROBLEMS LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT AND MAKING OTHER SCIENTIFIC ADVANCES?
Word! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 11:57am |
| Coolness: 50925 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
These kinds of sensationalist comparisons are too obtuse to even properly debate. fuck, that is very well put. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 12:05pm |
 Coolness: 339620 | Originally Posted By MORPHINE
Originally Posted By ScottyP
These kinds of sensationalist comparisons are too obtuse to even properly debate. fuck, that is very well put. What exactly is sensational about it? Bush doesn't need to have a bloody knife in his hand in order to kill. That sort of trite comparison is what's not worth debating. When you have legions at your fingertips you get other people to do you dirty work. Hell, if bush wanted to he could order a nuclear strike on Russia and then we'd all die. But I guess since you need to see a knife in his hand in order to be convinced that he just killed the whole world, he'd be innocent in your eyes. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:05pm |
| Coolness: 55455 | keep them coming, these are fucking gold nuggets of wisdom. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:06pm |
| Coolness: 339620 | If you have a dispute with my comments, feel free to point out the flaw in my logic. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:14pm |
| Coolness: 55455 | Originally Posted By ANGUS_SMUGGLEBUM
If you have a dispute with my comments, feel free to point out the flaw in my logic. aw come on, man, let's keep this crazy train rolling! more wisdom! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Amp_Up replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:23pm |
| Coolness: 83290 | Neo, I think you're mistaking self-defense and war.
If you get attacked in the street, you can fight back. If your country is under attack like Irak is, your military force fight back and you're free to join it but you cannot go and kill the president of the other country, lets say Bush and expect their law system to accept your "self-defense" bull shit... Again, if you ask me, he fuckin' deserve it, but "death penalty" doesn't equal "liscence to kill" nor it equals "kill for self-defense". |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:46pm |
| Coolness: 339620 | Uhh, if Bush ordered troops to invade canada.. you don't think we'd have the right to take bush out? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:47pm |
| Coolness: 55455 | nice! i knew you wouldn't let me down. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:53pm |
| Coolness: 339620 | Do you have something to add or what? Like, seriously, just shut the hell up cause no one gives a shit about your level of amusement. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 1:58pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Amp_Up replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 2:09pm |
| Coolness: 83290 | I don't even know where to start...
maybe with this: In no case, you'll have the right to take Bush out. You may find some reason to, but you'll never have the right to. AND it would never be a case of self-defense. Is that clear ? If our soldiers would be good enough to find him and take him out, it would be war, not self-defense. And if we would capture him, judge him and send him to death, it would be death penalty for crime committement on our territory, belonging to our laws (if we would have the death penalty) not self-defense... It's completly different, i'm sure u understand that... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 2:12pm |
 Coolness: 152960 | Originally Posted By AMP_UP
Le gars du BC a AVOU� ses meurtres. that's 0% to me the thing is the MEDIA told that this guy said he killed him BASED on other JAILED PEOPLE who are LIARS, KILLERS, RAPIST ect ect ... so the % of chances that its true that he really said it is your 0% ... and in prison if you tell guard something about other prisoniers you can have advantages so why the person who said he said it didnt lied? you really cannot base yourself on this to give him death penality you have to know that it is impossible to have a justice system right at 100% in every cases... unless you can read peoples mind or go back in the past ... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Amp_Up replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 2:36pm |
| Coolness: 83290 | Ok... scuse me, i'll take that back and tell you what I really meant.
Let's say, in court, in front of the judge and the jury, a suspect faces death penalty charges because he commited crimes (lets say 20 rapes and 10 murders) AND he admits all of his crimes. THAT is a case of 0% mistake to me. No ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 3:55pm |
| Coolness: 509515 | Why would you go to court if you're pleading guilty? There wouldn't be a trial, just a verdict and a sentencing. I guess, that would happen IN court, but surely you see my point.
You guys are all forgetting the most basic truth of life that you really should accept before saying anything or judging anyone. Fuck the laws and the constitutions and right and wrong and good and bad and moral and immoral. Every single living being is free to do whatever they want, that freedom stops when one or many other beings stop him/her. Laws are not preventative, they are in place to determine the method for punishing individuals who break them. Freedom of speech is not a right, it's a fact. Freedom of action is a fact, because you can't stop anyone from doing anything unless you physically get in their way (hence WAR!!!). Yes, there are consequences to our actions but that, in no way, stops us from performing them if we don't care about the consequences or believe we will get away with it. Bush is not a murderer, yes, he has blood on his hands but his intentions were not those of a criminal even though his actions were. Law is relative and law is subject to interpretation. Besides, killing Bush would achieve nothing but a much more vehement declaration of war against the perpetrators who killed him. Violence solves nothing, but worse, it is a downward spiral. AND furthermore, nothing solves anything because one person's loss is a another person's gain, one person's solution becomes another's problem and so on. Think about it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 24, 2007 @ 4:17pm |
| Coolness: 339620 | Originally Posted By ALIENZED
Violence solves nothing, but worse, it is a downward spiral. Isn't that what Tibet said? Oh right, I forgot, they don't exist anymore. |
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