Pledge To Be Fur-Free
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 9:49am |
 Coolness: 81810 | Just for the record, I eat plenty of meat, probably more than the rest of you combined. But the way I see it, our brains wouldn't have evolved as much without it. As unfortunate as it may seem we should be grateful that past generations allowed us to become that which we are,..neo-humanoids, a super-species. The survival and continued evolution of our species is dependant on further mental growth which is undeniably & directly related to certain proteins which are most efficiently found in meat and fish.
I actually had a debate with a cousin of mine this weekend on the topic,... or more so on the reasoning behind a person's decision to become vegitarian. The semantics revolved around the righteousness of one's intentions not become vegitarian. We concluded that anyone who acts self-righteous because they're vegitarian could only justify it if their choice was being done purely out of love and sincerity for the animals themselves. Ironically enough alot of vegitarians are only concerned with their own personal health which is the wrong...or selfish reason to do the right thing. True love requires ultimate sacrifice. Only a person who freely sacrifices their own desires to save another is truely divine and worthy of self-righteousness. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:15am |
 Coolness: 339785 | Originally Posted By MOONDANCER
What does this have to do with vegetarianism? *blank stare* are you reading the same thread i am? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:24am |
 Coolness: 92385 | yeah.. it's about FUR. You can't use food to debate fur, they have fuck all to do with eachother. The only thing they have in common is killing animals. We're debating whether killing animals for fur is neccessary and you're talking about food. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:28am |
 Coolness: 685710 | It would be much better if they used the meat of the animals that they skin for the fur, but they probably don't. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:29am |
 Coolness: 266075 | mm racoon. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:30am |
| Coolness: 685710 | I wonder what racoon tastes like... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:30am |
| Coolness: 266075 | CHICKEN! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:34am |
| Coolness: 685710 | Damn! They better start up a Kentucky Fried Racoon soon! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Haha replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:35am |
 Coolness: 40655 | How can you possibly expect humans to suddenly stop this trend considering vegetarianism in humans has only become a popular trend in the past 50 years.. ? be realistic.
I agree with most of what DJneoform says, except for that. Pythagoreans were the first "vegetarian" and the term was associated with vegetarianism until the 1800s. Hint: Pythagoras = Ancien Greece. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:36am |
| Coolness: 339785 | Originally Posted By MOONDANCER
yeah.. it's about FUR. You can't use food to debate fur, they have fuck all to do with eachother. The only thing they have in common is killing animals. We're debating whether killing animals for fur is neccessary and you're talking about food. You said.. Originally Posted By MOONDANCER
the lion needs to eat, we dont need to wear fur. And the lion doesn't leave their pray waiting while metal grinds through the bones of their cute little tiny hands.. You used the excuse that lions need to eat. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:38am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 10:57am |
| Coolness: 81810 | Sorry bout that, I have a habit of going off on topic-related tangents... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:04am |
| Coolness: 92385 | Originally Posted By DJNEOFORM
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MOONDANCER YEAH.. IT'S ABOUT FUR. YOU CAN'T USE FOOD TO DEBATE FUR, THEY HAVE FUCK ALL TO DO WITH EACHOTHER. THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE IN COMMON IS KILLING ANIMALS. WE'RE DEBATING WHETHER KILLING ANIMALS FOR FUR IS NECCESSARY AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOOD. YOU SAID.. ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MOONDANCER THE LION NEEDS TO EAT, WE DONT NEED TO WEAR FUR. AND THE LION DOESN'T LEAVE THEIR PRAY WAITING WHILE METAL GRINDS THROUGH THE BONES OF THEIR CUTE LITTLE TINY HANDS.. YOU USED THE EXCUSE THAT LIONS NEED TO EAT. You asked why it's okay for lions to kill to eat but not for us to kill for fur and I said that it's okay for lions to kill to eat because they need to eat. How can you ask a stupid question based on something that has nothing to do with this and then blame me for talking about somethign that has nothing to do with this for answering. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mezion replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:13am |
 Coolness: 45555 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
Fur is not the same as curing diseases. Anyway I don't throw paint on people that wear fur, as some PETA supporters and other extremists do, as I respect other people's freedom to live they way they want. If someone wants to wear fur they should be allowed to. But I have my own set of beliefs. I have much less of a problem with native people or others who live off the land who when they kill animals do not let anything go to waste, and wear the fur, use the bones as utensils, and eat the meat. There is more honor in that. I do have a problem with farms raising animals just to cut off their skin, in poor conditions where the animal suffers greatly. I totaly agree with that. If only the animals were killed decently, it would maybe be better. But what I saw in the video, the racoon skinned alive... damn ... I found that just immoral. It's pure torture, that's what's bothering me the most. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:19am |
| Coolness: 81810 | Skinning methods could definnitely be defined as torture but at least animals killed for the pursposes of Kosher meat are supposedly killed in the least painful method possible. But I guess that's still debatable. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mezion replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:22am |
| Coolness: 45555 | Originally Posted By __PHOENIX__
Skinning methods could definnitely be defined as torture but at least animals killed for the pursposes of Kosher meat are supposedly killed in the least painful method possible. But I guess that's still debatable. kosher meat? what's that? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:28am |
| Coolness: 92385 | I'm vegetarian cause I can't stand the thought of eating somethign that died in excruciating pain, similarly I can't stand the thought of wearing something that died in excruciating pain. I don't get how anyone could feel CLEAN wearing the product of a bloody gut-ripping rampage. I mean, at least have some dignity. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mezion replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:29am |
| Coolness: 45555 | I guess the fact that you didn't killed the " thing " yourself help a lot ...
People dont realy want to know, just to have. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:35am |
| Coolness: 81810 | I've caught, killed, skinned, cooked, and eated fish but I don't think I could say that for any other animal I've consumed.
I guess racoons would be an interesting challenge cause they're nocturnal but I doubt they'd taste good without Jack Daniels bbq sauce... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Sep 25, 2006 @ 11:39am |
| Coolness: 685710 | I strip pig-skulls! |
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