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Why Do Our Hot Dogs Suck
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 8:27am
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hallal meat.. it's when they just chop off the head so that the animal doesn't die in pain, I think it's the only meat that muslims are allowed to eat.
Update » moondancer wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 8:28am
I think, it's what my muslim friend told me
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 9:12am
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Correct ! Most muslims only buy kosher meat. To a layman it may sound ironic but muslims and jews are descendants of the same bloodline so it would only make sense that they would follow similar dietary guidelines.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 9:45am
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Originally Posted By __PHOENIX__ CORRECT ! MOST MUSLIMS ONLY BUY KOSHER MEAT. TO A LAYMAN IT MAY SOUND IRONIC BUT MUSLIMS AND JEWS ARE DESCENDANTS OF THE SAME BLOODLINE SO IT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD FOLLOW SIMILAR DIETARY GUIDELINES.


Well they don't call it kosher meat they call it hallal. Is hallal meat the same as kosher? My friend in Israel told me kosher meat is killed differently but he didn't tell me how.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 9:50am
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The man who kills the animal is called the 'Shochet' and the ritual itself is called 'Schechita'
The following is an explanation of the procedure as described by Wikipedia:

Shechita (Hebrew:ùçéèä) is the ritual slaughter of animals, as prescribed for slaughter of mammals and birds according to Jewish dietary laws.[1] The act is performed by drawing a very sharp knife across the animal's throat and allowing the blood to drain out. Islamic dietary laws requires a similar procedure.

The practice is based on the Biblical law that men must not eat the blood of animals.[2] The animal must be killed with respect by a shochet who has in mind the life of the animal as he draws the knife across its neck. The animal can be in a number of positions; when the animal is lying on its back, this is referred to as shechita munachat. The aim is to sever all the major blood vessels in the neck, causing blood pressure in the brain to drop as instantaneously as the pain signal travels to the brain. With the animal rendered unconscious, the heart must continue to pump to aid the removal of blood from the rest of the carcass.

For these latter reasons, prior stunning by humane bolt or other methods are not permitted. The animal must be in good health, and is inspected after death to confirm that it was. Those animals which are not cleanly killed by shechita, or which, on inspection, are found to have unacceptable adhesions on their lungs (or one of many other infarctions), are declared non-kosher.

If the hindquarters (or sirloin) of kosher mammals are to be eaten by Jews, they must be 'porged' - stripped of veins, fats[3] and sinews[4] in accordance with a strict procedure. [5] Because of the expense of porging and the skill required to properly separate out the forbidden parts, a large portion of the meat of kosher mammals slaughtered through shechita in the United States winds up on the non-kosher market.
Update » Phoenix wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 10:04am
WTF?! so much for copy/pasting... here's the link:
[ en.wikipedia.org ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 10:11am
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yeah, it's pretty much exactly the same thing, it is also considered valid halal if it's kosher.

'What are the procedures that make the meat halal?'
Halal meat is the one derived from an animal that is otherwise
permissible to ingest its meat within the shari'a; not only that,but it
should have been rendered,or slaughtered,in accordance with Islamic
guidelines.That is,in summary;the animal should be slaughtered by a
sane,adult,using a sharp object to sever the throat and two neck vessels
whence the animal is lying on its left side[in the case of dextral
individuals] facing the Qiblah.A spear is used to render the camel,and a
knife to slaughter the sheep,goat,cows etc.The declaration of Bismillah,
'In the name of Allah The Great',should precede the actual act of
slaughter.

Allah SWT says"Eat not of meats on which Allah's name has not been
pronounced..."6:121.Imam Malik says,partly based on this,any animal
slaughtered without uttering Allah's name either intentionally or forge-
tfully even by a muslim should not be eaten.Abu Hanifa only agreed with
Malik if it is left out intentionally,while other Ulama feel it should
depend on the circumstances,as exemplified in the above prophetic
exemption. In that textual hadith above the prophet SAW ordered thegroup
to recite the 'Bismillah' on the meat before eating,assuming that it was
not done prior to slaughter.

'Are animals slaughtered by christians or jews halal?'
Yes,it is halal.Allah SWT says'This day all things good and pure are
made lawful unto you.The food of the people of the book is lawful unto
you.And yours is lawful unto them..'5:5.It is said that they recite the
'Bismillah' also,during slaughter.Doubftful as it may seem,Ulama have
explained that both,atleast,are followers of revealed beliefs/religions.
It is on record that the prophet SAW had eaten from meat given to him
by ahl kitab,and was even actually poisoned on an occassion with such
gift meat.Most scholars have opined that the slaughter of pagans render
the meat haram;Ibn Hazm,however,basing his argument on the prophetic
saying'Regard them like ahl kitab'justifies eating their food.
Update » moondancer wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 10:12am
normally
Update » moondancer wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 10:13am
they also are not allowed to eat pork like jews
Update » moondancer wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 10:13am
what is with pork?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DJ_DTM replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 2:17pm
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"never eat the pig cuz the pig is a cop," - Everlast, House Of Pain.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 2:32pm
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William J Walter

You have not tasted a sausage as good as this...trust me.

The Suisse is the best kind they have ( next too the other 30 choices ) it's filled with emental cheese.

These guys toast a baguette on this wierd heated prod...then they slice the sausage in two and garnish the bread with Dijon, Kosher Dill Slices and German Wine Sour Kraut! It's the best god-damned Hotdog you'll ever taste....guaranteed.

There are 3 locations in Montreal, including some in Malls.
Update » greatjob wrote on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 2:33pm
VIVE LE WALTER!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» wisp replied on Tue Aug 22, 2006 @ 8:12pm
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uhh
I'm feeling lethargic right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Aug 23, 2006 @ 12:24am
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i think it has to do with pork going bad quicker and the fact that it must be cooked all the way through
then after generations and generations it became part of the religious values

that's what a history teacher told me years ago
sorta makes sense
I'm feeling disposable right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Aug 23, 2006 @ 12:35am
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Yeah, that's what I've heard it attributed to also. Back in the day (like waaaaaaaay back in the BC) they didn't have good food preservation, and eating bad pork can kill you pretty damn fast, so people thought it was a sign from god that you weren't supposed to eat that kind of animal.
I'm feeling sleepy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Aug 23, 2006 @ 12:40am
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yeah exactly
I'm feeling disposable right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» CravinYourMom replied on Wed Aug 23, 2006 @ 8:52am
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eeeee hotdogs
Update » CravinYourMom wrote on Wed Aug 23, 2006 @ 8:52am
only w/ cheese, ketchup, and mustard
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Aug 23, 2006 @ 11:24am
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ketchup's one of the grossest things out there
I'm feeling disgusted right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DJ_DTM replied on Thu Aug 24, 2006 @ 12:09pm
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I have never seen one of those street meat dealers wash their hands after handling cash, I have never seen them use gloves, I have never seen them wash the utensils they cook with nor have I ever seen a clean smog dog dealer, they look like they live in the same clothes withought a shower for a month at a time, they smoke while the cook, pick there ass with the same hand they take your money and cook with. it's the most dirty thing anyone could ever put near their mouth, just please don't eat this crap people, if your that hungry lick the floor of a rave, it's better for you.
Thats what I think.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Dark_Angel_2 replied on Thu Aug 24, 2006 @ 6:33pm
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Originally Posted By SLOPPYGREMLIN ONLY W/ CHEESE, KETCHUP, AND MUSTARD


cheese on a dog is soooo american!! im not dissin americans tho..I
I'm feeling up ur girl right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Aug 24, 2006 @ 6:43pm
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You should try the Supremes (I think that's what they're called) at LaFleur... Hotdog in a toasted bun with cheese and a slice of bacon!
I'm feeling sleepy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Aug 24, 2006 @ 6:53pm
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mmmmmm slice of bacon
I'm feeling different right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Fri Aug 25, 2006 @ 12:26am
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ya for a hot dog, it has potential. and it's not as revolting as a michigan aka chili dog. both of em are cause for indigestion.

my personal favorite would have to be a pogo, i dunno why but i love a good 'corn dog'
I'm feeling miserable right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Aug 25, 2006 @ 1:03am
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chili dogs are awesome... it's like two meals in one
I'm feeling different right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Fri Aug 25, 2006 @ 1:22am
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ugh don't get me started. i once got maaaaad sick offa one of those
I'm feeling miserable right now..
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