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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Sat Oct 22, 2005 @ 6:06am
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**** don't read if you're not into art stuff, it's boring.

Originally posted by VEEE...

yeah but then it looks like a picture. and if its gonna look like a picture then u might just as well take a picture. no doubt it takes a lot of technique and talent to do this. but its lacking one thing and i think its the essence of anything revolving around the word "art":
creativity.


hahaha...oh fuck, what foolish discourse, obviously you and those who agree with you don't understand art.
ok, why do a drawing, painting, or other applicable visual medium that is photo realism if you can just instead take a photograph? Ask yourself this: If a photographer takes a picture of the Mona Lisa, is it art?

Do you know what creativity is? Creativity in art expression is interpretation and innovation.

1.interpretation

You heard of old Art Movements such as gothic, art deco, baroque, romanticism, etc... Those who create arts from one school of art are interpretating the style and ideas of that particular art movement. In our example drawing above, it's photo realism. The artist is trying (and i might add highly succeed) in "interpretating" that form of art expression. He is communicating to us via that art from.

Interpretation is not only limited to visual arts. If musicians from a orchestra terrifically played a piece of Mozart, are they any less of a Artist because they didn't compose anything in their life? Dancers who must do a very specific choreography are still performing artists. So why indeed draw something that is photorealism instead of just taking a pic?

Why do we have dj's at raves instead of just a computer playing mp3s? Because his set is a audio canvas, the turntables & mixer his brush, and his vynils are his paints.

2.innovation

This is the other end of the spectrum of creativity in art expression. Some believe that art is real art only if it is original. But being a original is not just putting pieces of medium that no one have never done before. Innovation needs a idea, a form of thought that can interpretated by its audience.

Truly innovating art creates an Art Movement such as Thinkism Art Movement (founded in Montreal). Even establishing a branch off a major art form. I.E. gangsta rap from old school rap.

3.Art

I hate abstract expressionism. A painting with 3 colored line on a canvas that ANY of us can do sells for millions cuz it "abstract". Abstract is still Art. Any art form, good or bad, that invokes response from you whether is positive or negative is art.

If you make or appreciate art for art' sake, it's artsy fartsy. You don't get it.
If you create or admire art by expressing an idea, or feelings, or thoughts, or for aesthetic values then you understand the creativity of art expression.

Art, in essence, is simply life.

ps; abstract is only good for me to poop on!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk replied on Sat Oct 22, 2005 @ 2:43pm
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i think it's awesome stuff

doesn't do anything for me tho
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 6:12pm
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the louvre is boring, i been there... but that pencil work is really nice... if only i could draw more then a stick figure...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 6:17pm
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You kidding? I've been to the louvre, and that was so amazing, the talents those people had, plus you get to view art that as survived for so long, it just amazes me.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 6:27pm
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it's really boring... 3 hours of looking at pictures... wow... ok well i'm not into that stuff but if your an art student you would probably be able to spend a week in the place.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» no.name replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 6:57pm
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i cant believe it! no way !! it is sooo a picture damn
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 6:58pm
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Well, I gotta agree that the art history class I've taken helped me appreciate the visit a lot.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 7:07pm
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Originally posted by .AWIANE....

i cant believe it! no way !! it is sooo a picture damn


I was looking at the pic with an artist friend of mine who works does photo-realism: [ www.maery.runvs.net ] not the same quality but still good, and she says that its totally pencil, there's a couple of giveaways if you compare the photo with the drawing. Like the leather jacket, and some parts of the hair...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lady replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 8:32pm
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the foirst image looks like its justa black and white photograph of the original colored one.... it doesnt look like he drew it although the second one does, you can tell whats fake and whats not .. regardless, its not hard to draw like that if you know how to draw.. please
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 9:05pm
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The first and the second are diff artists... like I said... I'm no artist and I thought the same way, but my friend who is assured me that the first was almost definately penciled.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 9:11pm
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Originally posted by *ASS N TITTIES*...

the foirst image looks like its justa black and white photograph of the original colored one.... it doesnt look like he drew it although the second one does, you can tell whats fake and whats not .. regardless, its not hard to draw like that if you know how to draw.. please


First one is a drawing. I guess you didn't see his construction drawing cuz we use up all his bandwith. oops.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blah123 replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 9:11pm
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i dont think i belive thats real, its too good, you can see all the individual hairs, including the photographers reflection in her pupils, and if it is, well im speachless
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 9:48pm
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Well, some artist can be pretty amazing. A lot of people today tend to forget the time and efforts someone can put into a realistic piece of art.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lady replied on Mon Oct 24, 2005 @ 9:53pm
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well he is pretty good if that was an actual drawing... kudos to him... but still thats not hard to do
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Oct 25, 2005 @ 1:05am
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It is art, and was not hard to do, because obviously when you draw somethign like this, you have to be enjoying what you are doing. He probably didn't notice time was passign at all. Also this is a practice sketch, any given artist has a few hundred of these boring pics of objects and faces. The better you can draw the more options you have to put your creativity to good use. If you decide you wanna draw a glass fly with copper wire wings, well how are you gonna show its made of glass and the wings of copper? besides pointing an arrow to it, you obviously cant do that with stick figures. Anyone could draw some abstract hoo-haw and call it art. A red dot is not art, I don't give a shit which way you look at it, and I don't give a shit what it meant to the artist when they made it, it is not art, and never will be, because it took two seconds to make. It is cheap, it is gay. How can you call somethign art when you haven't even put any time into it? what kind of artistic inspiration is infused into that? Even if it really meant a lot to the artist, hwo can they feel anythign towards something that took them 1 second to make? they haven't even had the time yet to be inspired and enter that special place in their minds where art comes from, that peacerful state where everythign flows. It's garbage. Idea are one in a million. I never seen a drawing I couldn't conceive in my mind myself, we can all think of these thigns, we can think of random thigns that mean tnothing and they will still be creative. What counts is how you are able to express those ideas. I enjoy lookign at aret form people who truly enjoy the act of actually drawing. We all have ideas. A movie can have a bomb-ass story and still suck and vice-versa.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Tue Oct 25, 2005 @ 1:30am
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I still consider portraits to be art. Capturing the essence of someone on a painting or drawing is as beautiful as a truly creative piece, if you ask me.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Oct 25, 2005 @ 1:32am
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That's what I said..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Tue Oct 25, 2005 @ 1:34am
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Sorry, must have read too fast.

It's 1:30 in the morning, so I have an excuse :b
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Oct 25, 2005 @ 3:02am
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it's all good, I read it over and realised it wasn't all that clear. What I meant to say was that I believe this is art because he put a lot of heart into it. You can tell this by looking at it. Art is not necessasily defined by the content of the final product. It's not necessarily what we se with our eyes, when I look at this I don't see a picture at all. I see someone sitting there and drawing this and being completely absorbed by it. Now he looks at it and is proud of it, and it is a peice of himself, whether not the content of the picture itself means anythign to him.

I also added that regardless of whether it is creative or not, creativity is useless if we do not have the means to express it. This is why making excercise drawign like this, is practiced by most any artists. There are many things we would be able to think of but not express if we didn't have the means.. I could give a few examples bnut I already gave one in my last post, so screw it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Tue Oct 25, 2005 @ 3:21pm
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Yeah, you got a point there.
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