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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon May 16, 2005 @ 5:20pm
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Originally posted by LUCKYC...

Originally posted by DJneoform...

look at *every* popular game. they've all got nicely polished interfaces and nice graphics.


World Of Warcraft, voted game of the year 2004.
BTW, the WoW initials aren't meant to represent the graphics of the game.

I won't debate this issue with you any further and I'm glad you don't work in the gaming industry cause it's people that has your way of thinking that would trully kill the industry.


i might not be a game developer, but i am a gamer.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Smurf replied on Mon May 16, 2005 @ 5:33pm
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

best multiplayer games have 2d graphics?! what ARE you talking about?

and obviously citing WoW as not having spectacular graphics is stupid, it's MMORPG..! and the only reason they're not great is because today's computers aren't fast enough to handle massive worlds with heavy detail. :P


didnt you say the xbox 360 had 3 cpus to handle graphics and not big worlds and lots of details? :)

i said THE best multiplayer game. Not all.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon May 16, 2005 @ 5:41pm
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no, i said having a device with such power being hooked into a tv set is OVERPOWERED.

if it was hooked into a computer monitor or something capable of more than 2million pixels display, then i'd be clapping at microsoft's newest appliance.. but it's not.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Smurf replied on Mon May 16, 2005 @ 6:03pm
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remember that it is made for HDTV., so what, 1080 scanelines, compared to what? games running at 1024? so wow, the tv has more definition ! ( i just pulled this out of my ass i have no clue how HDTV works)

also, you can hook it in a monitor if you want, games will just look uglier because as stated earlier, resolutions do not make games look good, it makes game looks edgy and pixelized.

since the power is not used mainly for the graphics, but everything else, i fail to see your point.

this resolution propaganda has got to stop.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Naughty_Mart replied on Mon May 16, 2005 @ 7:18pm
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Neo, I was citing WoW to prove my point that a good game ain't about graphics, it's about gameplay.
That's why I disagreed with your statement saying that if the graphics hadn't evolved, games would had died.
As long as games will offer interesting gameplay, it will stay alive and well.
I could had cited Lumines which is currently one of the greatest games on PSP and it's only a 2d puzzle game.

all that power for the new xbox will offer us the possibility to pull off some new gameplay possibility, that power will be used.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon May 16, 2005 @ 8:01pm
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well dude, WoW has AMAZING graphics compaired to games made 10 years ago.. hands down.

this evolution was required. otherwise the gaming market would have stayed tiny instead of going mainstream and being a billion dollar business that it is today. I played shareware games 10 years ago and i can tell you developers were not pulling in millions with them..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon May 16, 2005 @ 10:23pm
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Yeah I never thought the graphics in any of the GTA games were that good, but the open-ended game play was what pulled me in. Most Strategy games don't have great graphics either, it's more important that the graphics are clear and the units easy to see and control.

Even in FPS games, if you are playing multiplayer then the frame rate is more important than the graphics... A lot of people just turn the details down unless they have a 600$ video card.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 12:05am
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i play css all the time, and the high end graphics make it that much more realistic and challenging..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Naughty_Mart replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 8:20am
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anyway, on another topic, Sony's conference yesterday simply rocked
The ps3 will surely kick XBox360's ass

can't wait to see what Nintendo will respond today

EDIT: Here's a link to a comparison between the PS3 and the XBox360
[ hardware.gamespot.com ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 17, 2005 @ 10:44am
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pretty funny that the xbox wont even support the next disk format, sony's smart, blu-ray is gonna be the future format.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Naughty_Mart replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 9:32am
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Here's an example of why AIs might need power to be processed hehe

XBox360 game called Dead Rising

Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 9:40am
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zombies = AI? :|
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 10:06am
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Giving them each individual movements individualy calculated, as opposed to a couple of pre-set paterns of behavior.

Or is Wolfenstein about as tough as you like AI to get?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Naughty_Mart replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:30pm
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

zombies = AI? :|


is it a joke to say that zombies are stupid?

or is it really that you don't know why I designated a zombie being an AI? Cause as soon as something can behave on it's own, it's an AI. Even if it's a pretty basic behavior, like being a zombie. The entity will have to constantly test it's current condition to choose it's behavior.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 12:32pm
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Originally posted by LUCKYC...

Originally posted by DJneoform...

zombies = AI? :|


is it a joke to say that zombies are stupid?

or is it really that you don't know why I designated a zombie being an AI? Cause as soon as something can behave on it's own, it's an AI. Even if it's a pretty basic behavior, like being a zombie. The entity will have to constantly test it's current condition to choose it's behavior.


Kinda like choosing the right moment to stick your dick up some girl's bum by testing with a finger or two, right?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 1:04pm
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I don't know but I look forward to killing that many zombies
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 10:44pm
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Originally posted by LUCKYC...

Originally posted by DJneoform...

zombies = AI? :|


is it a joke to say that zombies are stupid?

or is it really that you don't know why I designated a zombie being an AI? Cause as soon as something can behave on it's own, it's an AI. Even if it's a pretty basic behavior, like being a zombie. The entity will have to constantly test it's current condition to choose it's behavior.


ahhhhh, we're not gonna dive back into the AI debate, i had this argument with fred a while back... it went on for like 20 pages.. :P
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 10:46pm
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:lol don't start that again unless you plan on having your dad come on and join in on it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 18, 2005 @ 11:04pm
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oh shut your fucking mouth.
i only bring him in when i need to, besides my dad could TOTALLY beat your dad.. at nintendo.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu May 19, 2005 @ 12:27am
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there is no AI debate, AI is what AI is., It's artificial intelligence even if the only thing it has to decide is whether to jump when you're far away or stand still when you're close. The point is it's makign a decision.
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