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Whats Gabber And Hardcore ?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Fri Jan 23, 2004 @ 2:59pm
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aww i wanna see RTC

for some reason, gabber has always been one of my faves. although some of the "anthems" are cheesy, there is still alot of good stuff out there
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» wisp replied on Sun Jan 25, 2004 @ 6:47pm
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yeah - you know that song where the guy goes 'ohhhh i'm still hardcore' or something like that, to the tune of Alive by Pearl Jam?

yeah, that track sucks.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Sun Jan 25, 2004 @ 6:59pm
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is that a Neophyte track? 'cause I think I know it and I've heard like only once and yeah it has been stuck in my head ever since....such crap....eeeeewwww barf!

and that's definitly gabber and not hardcore.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Sun Jan 25, 2004 @ 7:00pm
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and that's the track that I song to TerrorissKriss all the time hehehe what are the odds....is that song loved by many or something?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Sun Jan 25, 2004 @ 7:02pm
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oh and I just made a search or my PC and it's still on my HD....lordavemeray!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» errorizE replied on Sun Jan 25, 2004 @ 8:07pm
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Art of Fighters Vs Nico and Tetta - I Became Hardcore TRAX0044

i think thats the track you guys all hate.
But i fucking love it!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech replied on Sun Jan 25, 2004 @ 8:11pm
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I think the one I'm talking about is called "always hardcore" by Neophyte....I could be wrong 'cause I dunno what I'm talking about....but I believe you if you say that I wouldn't like this one as well...if it's a different one....:b
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» errorizE replied on Sun Jan 25, 2004 @ 8:15pm
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always hardcore is crap. it sounds like a Country sing along track
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Fri Jan 30, 2004 @ 12:22am
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i agree. i downloaded that song a while ago. i was embarrassed just listening to it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» errorizE replied on Fri Jan 30, 2004 @ 1:07am
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lol
i felt the exact same way. I'm so glad i didn't buy it!
The first time i heard it, i started to look around my room and wondered if anybody saw me listening to this shit.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» g0tBeat replied on Mon Feb 2, 2004 @ 7:47pm
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LOL the part of ''always hardcore'' where he starts singing is quite funny..but i have a question, do you consider

powerpill- omar santana
secret valley- catscan

and nosferatu, endymion and da predator

like shit??

thx
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» errorizE replied on Mon Feb 2, 2004 @ 9:39pm
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i don't.
Nosferatu is my favorite producer at the momment.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» The_Middle_Man replied on Sun Feb 8, 2004 @ 7:24am
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Its actually by Bodylotion.

There's some pretty lame views here. At least exT is making informed posts. Its funny to see people into speedcore and the more experimental sides of hardcore, pigeonholeing newstyle, with opinions which appear to be half formed, if that.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik replied on Mon Feb 9, 2004 @ 3:08am
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the difference between gabber and hardcore is like the difference between electro and electro. it all depends whose talking, it's just a matter of opinion on a subject where there is absolutely no consensus. you can yammer all you want but it's impossible to find out WHAT gabber IS, or WHAT hardcore actually IS, there just words whose meaning is constantly changing, and they mean something different to everyone at any point in time. but carlos, if you're looking for the OFFICIAL source of truth on the matter, check out [ www.theresnosuchthingyoufuckingmoron.com... ] !onelove and such.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Mon Feb 9, 2004 @ 7:39am
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The funny thing is that newstyle is pretty much pigeonholing itself... it doesn't really need anyone to point out the formulaic aspects... although, when it comes down to it, speedcore is about twice as bad for being strictly formula: fastfastfastfastfast-violent sample-fastfastfastfastfast-angry sample-fastfastfastfastfast - you get the idea... violent and angry may be replaced by amusing or stupid as well.

Really, however - the whole beats-hoover-sample concept was beat to death by the end of '92. Making it faster has really been the only change.

The truth those big hardcore parties in Holland don't seem to be much different than Ministry of Sound or any number of British superclubs.

Why am I even a part of this thread?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SUPER_CHOQU replied on Mon Feb 9, 2004 @ 10:04am
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''Why am I even a part of this thread?''

dont feel so bad , look at me . I started it! ;(
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» toiletslave replied on Fri Feb 27, 2004 @ 2:53am
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i find that the kind of hardcore i like best is the french stuff. I was introduced to gabber/hardcore with the dutch stuff and some industrial strength shit but got bored of it really quick. I find most speedcore boring as hell, not because it's too fast but because for most tracks it seems that no effort whatsoever was involved in creating them.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» exT replied on Fri Feb 27, 2004 @ 6:45am
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"the kind of hardcore i like best is the french stuff"

Tieum is doing newstyle now.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» giorgio_moisi replied on Fri Feb 27, 2004 @ 10:17am
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Most French hardcore is boring as hell too, sorry to burst your bubble. It's not bad, just always the same. Personnally I dig Épitèth up until their recent releases, but then again I seldom revisit them. Fishead often mentions Hangars Liquides - I don't own any, but what I've heard is quality psychedelia.

The problem is not with any particular style of hardcore (excluding newstyle and Rotterdam gabber, and a few other subgenres that just sound like sped-up dance music, which have always sucked), it's with people who only listen to hardcore and/or generally agressive music, like there's nothing else out there.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Fri Feb 27, 2004 @ 2:52pm
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what about epileptik? do you still dig those guys?
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