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Capitalism (wikipedia)
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 2:59pm |
 Coolness: 106215 | The Economy is everywhere! Like God. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 5:34pm |
 Coolness: 72980 | bottom line, making a profit cant be considered as greedness, what's that backward way of thinking?! Fuck this, when i work i want to get paid, i wont work 40hrs a week for free out of non-greedness. lol. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 7:13pm |
 Coolness: 145300 | yeah for free markets cause they create free people... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 7:34pm |
| Coolness: 72980 | Yes it does make us free to a certain degree. At least, more than communism does.
Communism is worse than conservatism in the '' makes people free '' departement. Even monarchism is a lesser evil than communism haha, at least with monarchism there's one person who can do whatever he wants with his productivity. LOL! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_big_jo replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 8:45pm |
 Coolness: 56685 | I agree but disagree.
A completely unregulated market fluctuates rapidly, going from a large surplus to a large deficit in rapid succession. <- This is good for nobody, it decreases consumer and investor confidence in the market because they don't know if there investments will still be there the following day, which results in negative economic growth because less money is changing hands, and less money makes it into the hands of small/med sized biz, resulting in unemnployment. IMO, what works best is a balance between left and right economic policies. Regulate certain crucial aspects of the economy such as lending and banking, and you can make minor adjustments to ensure slow, consistent growth, which is very attractive to anyone looking to invest. This is why the Canadian banking system is pretty much rock-solid, and why we show the highest proojections for growth coming out of the recession. /rant |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Samwise replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 8:58pm |
 Coolness: 133125 | Originally Posted By NUCLEAR
If you make 500$ from throwing a party, does that make you greedy... ANSWER ME NOW... um... given the current "standards" the scene has settled for these days, id say 500$ makes you actually a fairly decent promoter. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 9:06pm |
| Coolness: 72980 | Originally Posted By THE_BIG_JO
I agree but disagree. A completely unregulated market fluctuates rapidly, going from a large surplus to a large deficit in rapid succession. <- This is good for nobody, it decreases consumer and investor confidence in the market because they don't know if there investments will still be there the following day, which results in negative economic growth because less money is changing hands, and less money makes it into the hands of small/med sized biz, resulting in unemnployment. IMO, what works best is a balance between left and right economic policies. Regulate certain crucial aspects of the economy such as lending and banking, and you can make minor adjustments to ensure slow, consistent growth, which is very attractive to anyone looking to invest. This is why the Canadian banking system is pretty much rock-solid, and why we show the highest proojections for growth coming out of the recession. /rant That's my point, social democracy and liberalism works. Goverment is there to put some laws to disminish the externalities of the economy. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 10:57pm |
 Coolness: 93595 | Originally Posted By LAURENT
That's my point, social democracy and liberalism works. Goverment is there to put some laws to disminish the externalities of the economy. Its not quite that simple... Theres actually 2 major roles of government. The first is to address market failure in general, not just externalities. And only if the government can do better; and its hard to say that it always can, even if externalities are present. The second is to help society reach its goals/values on fairness, social values, morals etc. The economy is abstract. We, as a society, can redistribute any way we wish to. And we should do so in way that conforms to the values and morals that Canadians hold to - reward for hard work, equality of opportunity, dignity, caring, camaraderie etc. Thus, one can rationalize increasing marginal tax rates, welfare, old income support, 1-tier health care etc. In the states, for example, they spend a lot more on health care, but the data shows that on average they do worse than Canadians and Europeans in health outcomes. What is actually going on is that rich people spend a ton of money on themselves for health care, and they live longer than Canadians or Europeans. And then theres a bunch of poor people who die prematurely because they dont get nearly as much health care services as Canadians and Europeans. Is that ok? I guess or I guess not. I personally dont care either way, but Im sure a lot of people do. So the government can come in and say, "thats morally repugnant. Rich people shouldnt get better health care just because they have more money" and they can treat everyone by the same rules, rich and poor. Which is what happens in Canada. Theres no right or wrong...society has to make a choice. More life for the rich. Or equal life for the rich and poor at the expense of the rich. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Mon Dec 14, 2009 @ 11:17pm |
| Coolness: 72980 | Yeah i know that. A law in place to insure a minimum wage salary is economically unrational for exemple. But it ameliorates the situation of the poors. I see Canada as politically social liberal in practice. Capitalism is just right when there's a goverment with a decent political agenda. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 12:01am |
| Coolness: 93595 | i like ponies :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 12:27am |
| Coolness: 145300 | just change it back to gamos |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_big_jo replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 12:35am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 1:38am |
| Coolness: 72980 | Originally Posted By THE_BIG_JO
haahahaha! That's a good one lol I'll memorise it lol |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 1:41am |
 Coolness: 121015 | wasn't ministry of plur supposed to be about non-world event stuffs
you know, stuff like carrots and bees |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 1:45am |
| Coolness: 145300 | ya you fucking sellout gamos. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 1:47am |
| Coolness: 121015 | Originally Posted By MINISTRY_OF_PLUR
Its not quite that simple... Theres actually 2 major roles of government. The first is to address market failure in general, not just externalities. And only if the government can do better; and its hard to say that it always can, even if externalities are present. The second is to help society reach its goals/values on fairness, social values, morals etc. The economy is abstract. We, as a society, can redistribute any way we wish to. And we should do so in way that conforms to the values and morals that Canadians hold to - reward for hard work, equality of opportunity, dignity, caring, camaraderie etc. Thus, one can rationalize increasing marginal tax rates, welfare, old income support, 1-tier health care etc. In the states, for example, they spend a lot more on health care, but the data shows that on average they do worse than Canadians and Europeans in health outcomes. What is actually going on is that rich people spend a ton of money on themselves for health care, and they live longer than Canadians or Europeans. And then theres a bunch of poor people who die prematurely because they dont get nearly as much health care services as Canadians and Europeans. Is that ok? I guess or I guess not. I personally dont care either way, but Im sure a lot of people do. So the government can come in and say, "thats morally repugnant. Rich people shouldnt get better health care just because they have more money" and they can treat everyone by the same rules, rich and poor. Which is what happens in Canada. Theres no right or wrong...society has to make a choice. More life for the rich. Or equal life for the rich and poor at the expense of the rich. PLUR FAIL! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 2:00am |
 Coolness: 108905 | Originally Posted By THE_BIG_JO
Nice one ! Fascism make me think of Nerve stapling in Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (SMAC), it's an atrocity you commit on your people and in return other factions will declare vendetta (war) on you. It's described in [ forums.civfanatics.com ] Nerve Stapler (TLS(P)): A
device originally designed for psychotherapy, but often applied on both Earth and Planet to deal with social dissension. When strapped to a patient's head and upper back, the nerve stapler extrudes hair-fine probes into his brain and spinal column. A psychotherapist can then use the device to inflict extreme sensations (not necessarily pain) on the patient, subjecting him to a rapid course of psychological conditioning. The patient must make a Will roll every hour that he is under the nerve stapler, or he will acquire the Nerve Stapled disadvantage (p. 89). A nerve stapler can also be used as a torture device when applying the Interrogation skill (p. B66). And most likely look like the following (the title and audio is about something else) : |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Tue Dec 15, 2009 @ 2:19pm |
 Coolness: 164900 | yeah we all know how great capitalism works :
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