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Why Do Girls Cut Themselves?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:05pm
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heeh :P

I thought it was hilarious
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:08pm
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Originally Posted By NUCLEAR

What if the person is over 25 and still cuts themselves...

Should they seek help or just keep cutting themselves...


i would even said that under 25 aswell would need "help". it can be just talking to a friend or with a professional
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:11pm
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if the person is over 25 and cut it(her) self from a repetitive patern it usually lead to suicide profile. thats the charts. i suggest you talk to the person cleary about her(his) behavior.

auto-mutilation is a smaller form of auto-destruction.

ps:peril as tu d'autres commentaire PERTINENT sur la matière stp? ca manque de ta grande connaissance cognitive dans le thread.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:22pm
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when i was kid we'd do stupid shit like carve pentagrams in our chest to make the preppy kids think were freaks.
so normally i'd say it's a cry for attention...
but i was dating a girl last year who did this too, and she would try to hide it from me.
she was pretty depressed... and blamed her depression on this crazy experimental acne medication (acutane) she took as a teen that became known for causing severe depression later in life.
too bad though... she had alot goin' for her...
but alas...
you know how it goes...
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Update » MURDOCK_ROCK wrote on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:24pm
she was still doin' this at 29 btw.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:23pm
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Ok Mickos... personally I find it sort of pathetic to cut one's self given that most of the time it has to do with fashion. I'm not kidding. I knew kids in high school who thought it was metal to have cuts on your arms. Granted, sometimes it was, like if you'd carved a deep, badass pentagram into your back most people would be like, "well let's hear you shred" and then you'd be like "woah dude can shred". But the whiny camwhore emokids, the angular haircut sneak-into-foufs crowd, fuck em. And their appropriation of emo as something really lame. In fact I don't even defend the original concept of emo-core anymore because well, I don't like listening to Quicksand anymore.

I personally have gone through cutting phases and through bashing-my-head-against-the-wall phases, but this isn't a psychiatrist's office, it's a forum, so why talk about that shit here? Do we need to attract attention to ourselves? Because that's exactly why people do it. They want people to go "oh shit, what happened?" and then go "I did it to myself, I hate myself, please love me, etc". Truly suicidal people go all the way, and well, they die, don't they, otherwise it's just attempted suicide, and that means they need therapy, obvious enough isn't it? Can't say what anybody suffers from or generalize the auto-mutilation desire as being indicative of only one personality disorder or neurosis. Those into hurting themselves are usually blaming themselves for unfortunate circumstances, and feel that they need to punish themselves for not being able to change them. This was always why I wound up doing this shit. The bashing my head thing was always a literal form of how I was feeling symbolically, that I kept hitting my head against the same wall and nothing would change. If life never changes, you sometimes just want to get all the fucking pain out at once, in the hopes that you'll program yourself to stay away from whatever pattern led you there. It doesn't work... but what does? You can stay positive and upbeat and advise the rest of the world and feel like nothing bad will ever happen to you, but it's not realistic. Life is tough, and people suffer. Sometimes the ritual of auto-mutilation is just for an endorphin rush, and sometimes it's a cry for help. Either way, if you aren't dead yet, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. And if you're doing it for attention well, you got it didn't you.

I personally think it's a lot better to blow stuff up when you're feeling like that, but I can't get my hands on the necessary explosives. That would be such an awesome rave. The last one (finally).
Update » JasonBeastly wrote on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:29pm
If anyone has that video of the guy hacking his testes open I'd like to juxtapose it with the current topic, just to point out that there are people out there who don't find it horrific at all. Psychologize that one all you want, you'd still never understand why the guy did it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:25pm
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Originally Posted By MICKOS

if the person is over 25 and cut it(her) self from a repetitive patern it usually lead to suicide profile. thats the charts


wais mais comme dit GODISDEAD_, y'en a que c'est pour le plaisir de la douleur, parce qu'il aime la sensation.

dirais-tu qu'eux aussi sont sur le chemin du suicide dans ce cas là?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:26pm
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j'ai lu en diagonal ta subjectivité impertinente, ya jamais vraiment quelque chose d'intelligible et d'objectif qui sort de ta bouche toi ? pourquoi tu beugles tant que ca, tu te sens attaqué p'tit gars ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:27pm
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hell no...
ALOT of ppl like pain Daf...
I dont get off on cutting myself...but I can fully understand people who do...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:31pm
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GODISDEAD_

that's what i thougt too, i was just trying to see with Mickos if that theory have pass his mind

anyway, this is something i will maybe never understand, loving to be in pain. But i don't judge people at all to do it.

chaqu'un ces trucs
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:31pm
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bleh, n,importe quel psychologue dira que quelqu'un qui aime avoir mal physiquement à mal à l'intérieur. thats it thats all.

(ici on parle de SE faire mal...)

faites en ce que vous voullez, spéciallement luke peril qui chie des paragraphe de frustré.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:34pm
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Originally Posted By DAF

GODISDEAD_

anyway, this is something i will maybe never understand, loving to be in pain. But i don't judge people at all to do it.



Oh I understand it...( its a very common thing :P) Alot of ppl like it in one shape or another !
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:34pm
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hahaha

je comprend un peu malgré tout le point de vue des psychologue

une personne qui aime avoir mal, sonne un peu débalancer, si je peux dire ça ainsi

mais tsé, y'a tellement truc dans la vie que je considère débalancer que certain trouve typiquement normal.
Update » Daf wrote on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:35pm
GODISDEAD_: i don't know why, but i knew already that you understand people who loves pain ;)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:35pm
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ok mais la ou est la limite qui dit : débalancer.

Recevoir une claque c'est fesses pendant qu'on baise (même forte) pour moi c'est pas débalancer non?

pourtant c'est quand même une association douleur-plaisir...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:39pm
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certain, daf. Tu vois, les conventions sur l'auto-mutilation, des assemblés de 100 aine de psychologue et psychiatre il y en as une annuellement à montréal. Les proffessionnels déblatèrent leurs expériences, leurs constats de fait, d'observation s'appelle science.

la science est basé sur l'observation de phénomène. Quand on as observé que 7 auto-mutilé sur 10 se sont suicidé en 1980 et que 5 sur 10 en 1990 (suivit de médicamentation et psychologique avec les personnes atteintes d'un toc auto-mutilatoire) ca fuckin crève les yeux.

c'est clair que la tite madame qui trip sur les piercing et les tattoos dans sa cervelle se dit que c'est ''normal'' jusqu'au jour où qu'à tombera sur quelqu'un qui s'auto-mutile jusqu'à la veine.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:39pm
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malgré que je comprend ton point

étrangement je trouve qu'y'a une grande différence entre s'ouvrir le bras avec des lames et se tirer les cheveux pendant qu'on baise
Update » Daf wrote on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:41pm
moi j'trip tattoo et percing (un peu moins percing maintenant) mais pas pour la douleur, mais pour l'esthétique.

ça me dérangerais pas du tout si ça faisais pas mal :P
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:41pm
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Pour moi il y a une difference. C'est de savoir ou sa va trop loin.

Si je comprend bien Mickos tu dit que toute forme de self-inflected douleur serait d,ordre du trouble psychologique?

Sans distinction entre le tatoo et la lame?
Update » Shindy wrote on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:42pm
Perso la douleur relier au tattoo j'aime sa.

C'est prendre entière possession de mon corp même si sa fait mal. C'est dire je m'appartien, voici ce que je veux en faire. Le fait que sa fasse mal rajoute de la valeur a la chose.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:41pm
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Girls do cut themselves when they cant have me. Scientific fact.

No seriously, my father is a psychologist specialized in developement psychology wich means adolescent psychology and stuff.

HE actually wrote a paper about self-mutialtion. Girls do it more than men in our society, alot more. There is multiple reason for people to do that kind of shit. I'm not an expert myself but i once browse throught some books on the subject and had discussion with people that trys to answer these kind of questions for a living.

Why adolescent girls cut themselves? Most of the time, it's to attract attention to the fact that they're not well somehow. It's not a problem in itself. It's a symptom of another problem and it's a way of telling te world that they need help.

Lots of the time it's also a way to show that they are someone. I mean, there is no real problem present. They dont even cut themselve so seriously. But, the person concerned wants to be perceived as a glamourous troubled mind. Some do this not even so consciously, they really think they are insane or else.

Some people are really totally crazy and needs medical attention because they'll harm themselves badly because they think that they have cybernetic implants in them. Some people will cut themselves ALOT because it's the only way for them to feel something. But that's another story. It's a srieously mental illness that usually reveal itself in people in the begining of adulthood. And in htat very case, i * think * that statiscally, there is more men than women involved lol.

But, for whatever reason a 15yr old girl cut herself, even if it's not super serious and all, it should be taken very seriously. Because in some cases, they dont do it because it's just a fashionable thing to do.

We live in a bizarre world. The real question is... why do I cut girls ? hahahahahah joking
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:46pm
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ah tabarnack mon paragraphe a crissé le camp. :(

bon je disais qu'il y a une nuance entre slappé le cul
prennons exemple d'un homme dominant et matcho qui pendant une baise slap le cul de sa partenaire.
Deux options s'offre: elle trip elle dis rien.
elle aime pas et lui ''dont fuckin do that again''
c'est la nuance avec le type qui s'automutile. Il est conscient du mal physique, de la marque qu'il s'inflige.

Si l'homme demande à la femme ''j'peux te spanker?'' et qu'elle répond oui, j'aime ca, fine!

comme le tattoo, le piercing et j'en passe...
l'automutilation, dans 98% des cas c'est un acte néfaste d'auto destruction.
Le tattoo ca fait mal, ouais, mais habituellement c'est créatif, pensé et consulté.

méchante nuance,
demandez a luke peril, il en connait bcp sur la matière.
Update » BOBDYLAN wrote on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:49pm
faut faire un dessin...?

la personne aime se donner du mal, PHYSIQUEMENT, à elle-meme, seule, dans son intimité (valeur psycho-sociale) en prennant plaisir à voir du sang (auto-mutilation prononcé (système exponentionnel) va en arpégio vers des traits mutilé de plus en plus large et prononcé).
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:50pm
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criss que t'es baveu non-stop :P
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Nov 7, 2008 @ 2:52pm
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j'ai raison, non, c'est pour ca que ca vous en fait baver.
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