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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Wed Nov 19, 2008 @ 4:10pm
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Yeah, good point.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Wed Nov 19, 2008 @ 8:37pm
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Interesting.



[ www.haaretz.com ]

Of all the Israelis he came into contact with during his career, the ones he became closest to were Rabin's close aides, including the Prime Minister's Office director Shimon Shevess. The two are still close friends.

Israeli officials are divided in their opinions about his involvement in foreign affairs in general and the Middle East peace process in particular. The chief of staff usually focuses on the president's political work.





[ www.independent.co.uk ]

The appointment of Rahm Emanuel triggered widespread interest in Israel, the native country of his former Jewish underground fighter father.

The older Emanuel, a paediatrician born in Jerusalem, was a member of Irgun, the hard-line militant group which fought for Jewish independence until 1948. It was described as "terrorist" at the time by Britain. Mr Emanuel's appointment could reassure Israel that Mr Obama will continue America's close alliance. The Ynet news service quoted Michael Kotzin, a leader of the Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago, as saying Mr Emanuel is a frequent attender at Israel-related events.

Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 12:34pm
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Obama does have a chance to change the mindset that got us into war. More significantly, he has a popular mandate to forcefully challenge the militaristic, hawkish tradition of modern U.S. foreign policy. But that work would begin by bringing on board people who would challenge this tradition, not those who have been complicit in creating it and are bound to continue advancing it.


This is Change? 20 Hawks, Clintonites and Neocons to Watch for in Obama's White House

by Jeremy Scahill

[ www.commondreams.org ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 4:58pm
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If he can give money back to the people instead of lining the pockets of big business; restore the positive image of the US as force for good; stop pushing an aggressive foreign policy (which I already know isn't going to happen); and work on cleaning up on the environment... Then yes, I suppose that could be considered change. Will any of these things happen? Only time will tell.

What can you expect really? Obama appointing a bunch of "hawkish neoliberal" Clintonites is no different than what Bush jr did when he appointed members from Bush sr cabinet. They're all top memebers of their party, with a plan to take that country in a certain direction. [ www.newamericancentury.org ]

I hope that Americans arent naive enough to believe that Obama being elected as their new president is the equivalent of the second coming of Christ, and that it's going to bring the rapture where they all go to heaven.
Update » Mico wrote on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:03pm
I'd also like to mention, that just because all those listed may have negative aspects to their backgrounds, it doesn't necessarily mean that the worst has yet to come.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:03pm
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Who said Obama wasnt a puppet?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:05pm
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Who says he's not the puppet master? Were not talking about Bush jr here.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:07pm
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Who's Obama?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:11pm
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Originally Posted By MICO

Who says he's not the puppet master? Were not talking about Bush jr here.


Wrong bloodline... Why would the puppet master put himself in the line of fire?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:15pm
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yeah, the whole point of being a puppet-master is that you get to stay in the shadows so that no one knows who you are, making it impossible to pin any blame on you and making you free of any repercussions.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:24pm
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no matter who you vote for, the government always wins.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Nov 21, 2008 @ 5:55pm
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Originally Posted By DATABOY

Originally Posted By mico
Who says he's not the puppet master? Were not talking about Bush jr here.


Wrong bloodline... Why would the puppet master put himself in the line of fire?


Touché. And yes, Fred, I get the idea. My point was that perhaps he's not the puppet that their last president was, and that maybe, JUST MAYBE, he might actually be a leader. Is that so hard to believe?
I don't want to be naive, but I'm not going to be cynical about the whole affair either.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Sat Nov 22, 2008 @ 10:45pm
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he really do like dancing..



awww sweet the first lady too.



anyway at this point i just think that obama is way better than what the republicans would have done... and with the rest of the other branch now democrat.. i really do have hope that things gonna get done...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DonLouis replied on Sun Nov 23, 2008 @ 8:13pm
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20 000 extra troops in the middle east
[ www.globaltv.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Mon Nov 24, 2008 @ 9:55am
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j'aime vraiment le sourire d'Obama
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon Nov 24, 2008 @ 11:37am
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you totally want to sleep with him, dont you. :p
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Mon Nov 24, 2008 @ 11:41am
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i already did, you should have seen him smile! awww

it was nice, but he wasn't president then. I'm pretty sure it would be better now!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon Nov 24, 2008 @ 11:47am
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you dirty dog! you should pop out of a cake for his birthday and sing him "Happy Birthday... Mister President"

I'm sure his wife would be thrilled! =)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Mon Nov 24, 2008 @ 11:50am
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she would

she's totally into 23 years old white french canadian

you should have hear her scream my name

it was like going to Disney Land, Magic.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon Nov 24, 2008 @ 11:51am
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Did she watch and touch herself, or did jump right in bed with you two?
I want details, Daf.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Mon Nov 24, 2008 @ 11:59am
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she was already in bed, with her toys and her dirty look!

i wish i could say more, but i don't want to ruin their classy reputation ;)
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