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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 12:56am |
 Coolness: 282560 | Accidentally erased every single program I had off my hard drive today.
including this very web browser I'm typing on, that took me a good hour to get back. Logic Pro 7 Reason VLC Traktor Final Scratch Every single one of my built-in utilities I must have deleted a folder that had my applications folder in it somehow. Either way, looks like I'll be on hiatus until I get these programs back & sorted again. Not like I'm making money off it but, my dream has been temporarily shattered. I'm an idiot. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 1:52am |
 Coolness: 140790 | ouch... very fuckin ouch... i'm sure some people'll have those... not much of a osx person myself (although i am using a mac... *ahem*) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 2:56am |
 Coolness: 201330 | no time machine ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 9:15am |
 Coolness: 85040 | Quick, call that dude from the commercial, he'll tell you why you shouldn't have been using windows! .. oh.. well maybe call bono instead?
If its any consolation, my hd with countless gigs of music just died over the weekend, I'm still in mourning. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» James replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 9:19am |
 Coolness: 37180 | Yknow when you buy these softwares, its a pretty simple procedure to take the CD from its case and reinstall the soft. :)
Just sayin' |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 9:24am |
 Coolness: 295080 | yeah like we all have 5000$ for software we use for fun. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» James replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 10:11am |
| Coolness: 37180 | Therein lies the whole issue doesn't it? The "just for fun" excuse isn't valid. I can't go to John Scotti and leave with a Ferrari without paying just cause I wanted to drive one "for fun". Like every other hobby, making music does cost money. Also, demo versions are available to try out new softwares (before someone tries the 'But I wanna see how it is before I buy" excuse).
More to the point, if this is to be strictly a hobby, then don't paddle in the big boy's pool. Logic7 is a pro-level software and its cost reflects it. If you want to have 'fun', go and invest 100$ on FLStudio8 which will give you AMAZING value for the money. And when you go as far as saying "my dream is shattered", I think you're head and shoulders above the "just for fun" line. The softwares he refers too would cost, brand spanking new, around 1900$ for the whole kit, a far cry from the 5000$ you refer too. 10$ per day will get you 3650$ in a year so stop smoking or don't eat out so often at work and you will find that you can afford it. There's been a godzillion ideas proposed to alleviate the problem of pirating productivity softwares. All of them, bar none, introduced the same problem: the legitimate user has (many) more (painful) steps in the installation procedure. This is slowly snowballing into the simple fact that it's not only cheaper to use pirate software, it's also a good deal more convenient. Anyways.. just playing devil's advocate here.. I use as much pirate software as the next guy. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:17am |
 Coolness: 158875 | Well that was kinda harsh if you use 'em also :)
Heh, small anecdote. My uncle works in the movie/cgi business (as a freelancer now, after working for years with big and small studios), and I appreciate his stance on the whole pirating software issue... He tries out the program, through demos or haxxored versions, and if it gives out the results he wants, he'll purchase a license before submitting it (and getting paid). Point is, if he makes money off of these softs, he'll pay for their use. I think that's pretty fair. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:23am |
 Coolness: 159225 | I still fail to understand why a piece of software costs 2 grands.
I know I know, coders this, beta testing that but I still don't think ANY software should require you to save up for weeks to buy it. As for the " making music costs money ", shouldn't gear be expensive and not a bunch of lines of codes ? I dunno, if you use any music software commercially or make money OFF of it, shouldn't you pay a premium fee ( more expensive ) or royalties or something ? I'm just saying. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:31am |
| Coolness: 85040 | Don't think of it as a hacked version, think of it as a 'welfare license'. I have the same stance though, if you make money off it, pay for it. I mean, it's not like a painter is charged $2000 for a canvas and then another $400 per tube of paint =p |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:34am |
| Coolness: 159225 | Originally Posted By NO_COMPLY
Don't think of it as a hacked version, think of it as a 'welfare license'. I have the same stance though, if you make money off it, pay for it. I mean, it's not like a painter is charged $2000 for a canvas and then another $400 per tube of paint =p LOL ! Welfare license ! BTW, funny you should mention the canvas and paint, dude, because I came THIS close to using that in my argument. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:34am |
| Coolness: 85040 | minds: i read em. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:37am |
| Coolness: 158875 | heh, rather --> minds: great ones think alike :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:38am |
| Coolness: 159225 | Originally Posted By NO_COMPLY
minds: i read em. If you read Bliss' mind, can you please pull a couple of wires in there ? Kthxbye ! :) Masa : wow dude. Thanks. And joins the club, you should. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:42am |
| Coolness: 85040 | Actually, if you read my replies to him, you'll see i was on point there too. The reason i never got flamed i would imagine =p |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 11:43am |
| Coolness: 159225 | Originally Posted By NO_COMPLY
Actually, if you read my replies to him, you'll see i was on point there too. The reason i never got flamed i would imagine =p Indeed. What...is...your...secret ? I must know. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 12:09pm |
| Coolness: 85040 | Think of it as having a finely tuned mental peripheral vision. Mix it with keeping track of personality types you've already encountered and events surrounding them. Above all, never assume. Everything in life has a pattern. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» James replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 12:42pm |
| Coolness: 37180 | Originally Posted By VERSION18MINUS1
I dunno, if you use any music software commercially or make money OFF of it, shouldn't you pay a premium fee ( more expensive ) or royalties or something ? That was precisely my point when I said pirate software is making it hell on legit users. Why should Legit User X have to go through a ton a paperwork and bookkeeping of royalties and premiums and keep on paying and paying, so that Some Kid Y in his basement has it easier to have a hobby that in 90% of cases goes freaking nowhere and lasts but a few months? We're not talking about a stamp collection, it's a professional piece of equipment, designed to be used by people who work in this industry. When all you do is freaking techno in your livingroom for a few friends a 3 bookings a year, all you need is freaking fruityloops if you come down from the stratosphere where your ego hangs out. And that goes for pretty much EVERYBODY on this forum, me, you, your mom and her mom's mom. :) Yes on the material level its a 5 cent CD in a 50 cent cardboard box. But it's not any box, with any CD. I dare you to record an album with an empty box of cereal and an AOL promo CD ;) A product is generally more than the sum of its parts, or we'd only be buying parts. You can get all the hardware inside a 24channel mixer for around 100$ at addison....that doesn't make it a mixer, and even if you put it together, it wouldn't make it a good mixer unless you kept at it for years.....investing....developing....trial...error....costs...money....and round we go again. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 12:45pm |
| Coolness: 282560 | All my programs are payed for, I just can't find my Logic Install CD's.
Either way, my stepdad has a sponsorship with the people at Apple. I should be ok, just when? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Wed Jul 23, 2008 @ 12:57pm |
 Coolness: 76360 | james (not that im singling you out)... suck it up, as in everything else in life... there is a balance. pirated softwear bumps counter culture and its relationship with things above the belt. the two play off of each other, you know? |
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