Callout For March 15th, 2008 : 12th International Day Against Police B
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Sun Feb 24, 2008 @ 6:03pm |
 Coolness: 91640 | Originally Posted By VERSION2MINUS1 IT SUCKS AND SHOULDN'T BE, I ALSO AGREE ON THAT. BUT IT HAPPENS. AND IF YOU THOUGHT COPS ARE ROTTEN AND CROOKED TODAY, HOW ABOUT YOU KIDS ASK YOUR GRANDFATHERS ABOUT COPS DURING THE PROHIBITION. LOOK IT UP IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. IT WAS A HELLUVA LOT WORSE THAN TODAY. DOES THAT EXCUSE THE POLICE'S BEHAVIOR TODAY ? HELL NO, I AGREE.
I agree with you on this wholeheartedely, but stop for a moment and consider WHY police brutality is of a lesser degree today than it was during Prohibition or even as recently as the 1960's. Did the cops just decide to be nicer? I highly doubt it. Instead, its because people got fed up with police brutality and decided to do something about it. Whether its taking to the streets in protest, drafting a new law, or reporting on police brutality in the media, its only because of activism that the powers of the cops have been reigned in. We may not be able to prevent every single instance of police brutality, because that would be near impossible. But so long as cops continue to abuse their powers, its our job to interrupt our daily routine for at least one day and take to the streets in a show of support for the victims. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» xbsd replied on Sun Feb 24, 2008 @ 6:20pm |
 Coolness: 76695 | j'espère que le teaser-gun va etre au sommet de la discuttion |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 11:33am |
 Coolness: 166495 | Originally Posted By POISONED_CANDY IF, ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU RECOGNIZE THAT POLICE BRUTALITY EXISTS BUT ARE GOING TO STAY HOME ON MARCH 15TH CUZ YOUR TOO SCARED OF BEING ARRESTED, THEN I'M SORRY BUT THAT'S JUST PATHETIC.
Sorry mate, but i don't think worrying about getting arrested is pathetic. Since i was arrested last time, i have to "keep the peace". So, if i get arrested again for protesting, i'm in twice as much trouble. And just spending the night in jail is not the worst thing. Waiting in the cold for hours for the police busses, after having been surrounded and squeezed, getting pushed to the ground, stepped on and cuffed by 7 cops, near strangled by another, losing my weed, having my dog collar and bracelets taken away as evidence, spending the night with 60 punks in cells desinged for 16, having your name thrown into the system, and then spending the next 6 years in court. That's the reality of being arrested at a protest in montreal. Anyway, i'm just being responsible for my own life, and that's not pathetic, but if you've not gone through the adventure yourself, by all means, go for it. But realize that at every protest, 4 douchebags ruin the rally for everyone else by breaking a window or some lame thing, and all the peaceful anti-police-violence peops end up paying the price, and the message becomes lost. Eitherway, i encourage people to go flex their rights, go stand up for the little people, protest for a necessary cause, and let motrealers know that some police officers abuse their power...of course, an anti-busting-of-raves protest would be great too... .. . so support those who have the balls to protest, but don't insult those who don't want to live through the ironic journey of being beat on at a COBP rally. Besides, i do my part by playing speeches like this at raves: "20 000 hardcore members, 40 00 counting affiliates, and 20 000 more not organized but ready to fight...60 000 soldiers; now there ain't but 20 000 police in the whole [ town....ca ] you dig it, can you dig it!" -the warriors wow this is a stupidly long post... peace :P |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 11:52am |
 Coolness: 685540 | I'd said it before in a post in the news section and I'll say it again here; when there's some sort of massive police brutality/injustice, we should totally FREAK THE FUCK OUT and outright go to war with them. Surround a police station, throw rocks and molotov coctails through the windows, set ALL of their cars (and ONLY the cop cars) on fire. A protest does JACK SHIT, it's just like praying; a feel-good load of bullshit to make you feel like you tried something while remaining as passive and inactive as you can comfortably get away with.
Police brutality should be met with one hundred fold the amount of violence they dish out. Like the quote Na posted right above; "20 000 hardcore members, 40 00 counting affiliates, and 20 000 more not organized but ready to fight...60 000 soldiers; now there ain't but 20 000 police in the whole [ town....ca ] you dig it, can you dig it!" Revolution and change doesn't happen with peace and protest, it happens with violence and force. A man never truly acts untill another man truly dies. What people need to do is take what the kids in france are doing, but bump it to a more focused attack; where those kids went wrong is that they trashed stores and their neighbors cars and homes. That's not going to accomplish anything other than get the general population to agree with the cops for using extreme violence. In case you haven't noticed, the only things that matter to most people are their stuff and their money. So if anyone actually does something, they shouldn't be flipping over civilian's cars or breaking shop windows, they should instead be concentrating their efforts on the people that they have a problem with; the police. Hell, if you look over at the UK, the police is SCARED of teenagers! [ www.telegraph.co.uk ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Raius replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 1:22pm |
 Coolness: 38135 | Violence against police is wasted effort. They are merely doing a job, not to say they don't do a bad job on occasion, but if you really want to change something you need to go above the police as you aren't going to outfight the police and most people are quite happy with the status quo so you surely won't get a revolution.
The Police are like any other job, some are good some are bad, you might need to bite your tongue and be respectful when they deal with you. I've had a few run ins with police mainly over the fact I tend to wind up in places I shouldn't be, but being polite and respectful has led to me getting no charges ever laid, had my name run a few times, been searched a few times but usually they are pretty understanding as long as you don't just scream at them. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 1:36pm |
| Coolness: 685540 | Yeah the diffrence being that when police are bad at their job, people end up in comas or DIE. And who polices the police?
If a busdriver or taxidriver speeds and crashes killing someone, he loses his license. Cops should be no diffrent; violence should only be used if you're being attacked, just like guns should only come out if a weapon is out threatening you. If an unarmed person gets beaten into a coma by 5 cops, was he really THAT much of a threat? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 2:41pm |
 Coolness: 159070 | Funny you should mention that Screwhead. In the news today :
[ www.canada.com ] Guy was carrying and a fucking Xacto which he wouldn't drop. Result ? Shot in the legs by 3 cops. Could they at least try PEPPER SPRAY ? Apparently not. [ www.canada.com ] Please people, listen to the police : don't drink and drive. Note : does NOT apply to police officers apparently. We should organize a protest for police STUPIDITY, not BRUTALITY. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ILL_EAGLE replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 3:32pm |
 Coolness: 94385 | Pretty dumb idea... It's been tried over and over again and has never made a difference. There will always be corrupt cops. Even if they eliminate all of the corrupt cops we have now, more will join the force tommorow. Manifesting doesn't do anything to help. It's just an excuse to go out and cause havoc and maybe rioting. We all know how it will end already... More arrests, more brutality and more anger on both sides of the law.
If you realy wanna fight police brutality, become a news caster with a grudge and get it on camera whenever possible, then go after the individual offending officers. There is absolutely nothing else you can do. Have fun with your manifest, try not to be the ones to get your heads beat in by the pissed off cops who will get away with it as always because you'll be seen as the ones who caused it and NO ONE WILL CARE! Maybe 2 or 3 cops out of all of them will get a short susspension in exchange for the good exscuse to bust your heads! Good luck! ... I might go just to watch the show from a distance and maybe get some good shots of cops beating on people.. :-D |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 3:34pm |
 Coolness: 282405 | buahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 3:41pm |
 Coolness: 152955 | there is just one this i wonder with this protest.
do you think it will change something, really, you know, sitting down, and thinking, if i go there and say police beats people, will it make police stop beating people? if i protest because the sun is too bright, will the sun get darker? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 3:42pm |
| Coolness: 685540 | just one this?
*dieing of lafter* |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 3:43pm |
| Coolness: 152955 | loll oops
thing |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Feb 25, 2008 @ 4:06pm |
| Coolness: 159070 | Two mush polise brootalytee on da hed makes brain dieing an spel bad
if i protest because the sun is too bright, will the sun get darker?
Good point. Try this on for size : if you protest against protests, does that negate itself ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Feb 26, 2008 @ 12:55am |
| Coolness: 91640 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD I'D SAID IT BEFORE IN A POST IN THE NEWS SECTION AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN HERE; WHEN THERE'S SOME SORT OF MASSIVE POLICE BRUTALITY/INJUSTICE, WE SHOULD TOTALLY FREAK THE FUCK OUT AND OUTRIGHT GO TO WAR WITH THEM. SURROUND A POLICE STATION, THROW ROCKS AND MOLOTOV COCTAILS THROUGH THE WINDOWS, SET ALL OF THEIR CARS (AND ONLY THE COP CARS) ON FIRE. A PROTEST DOES JACK SHIT, IT'S JUST LIKE PRAYING; A FEEL-GOOD LOAD OF BULLSHIT TO MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU TRIED SOMETHING WHILE REMAINING AS PASSIVE AND INACTIVE AS YOU CAN COMFORTABLY GET AWAY WITH. POLICE BRUTALITY SHOULD BE MET WITH ONE HUNDRED FOLD THE AMOUNT OF VIOLENCE THEY DISH OUT. LIKE THE QUOTE NA POSTED RIGHT ABOVE; "20 000 HARDCORE MEMBERS, 40 00 COUNTING AFFILIATES, AND 20 000 MORE NOT ORGANIZED BUT READY TO FIGHT...60 000 SOLDIERS; NOW THERE AIN'T BUT 20 000 POLICE IN THE WHOLE [ TOWN....CA ] YOU DIG IT, CAN YOU DIG IT!" REVOLUTION AND CHANGE DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH PEACE AND PROTEST, IT HAPPENS WITH VIOLENCE AND FORCE. A MAN NEVER TRULY ACTS UNTILL ANOTHER MAN TRULY DIES. WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO DO IS TAKE WHAT THE KIDS IN FRANCE ARE DOING, BUT BUMP IT TO A MORE FOCUSED ATTACK; WHERE THOSE KIDS WENT WRONG IS THAT THEY TRASHED STORES AND THEIR NEIGHBORS CARS AND HOMES. THAT'S NOT GOING TO ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING OTHER THAN GET THE GENERAL POPULATION TO AGREE WITH THE COPS FOR USING EXTREME VIOLENCE. IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, THE ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER TO MOST PEOPLE ARE THEIR STUFF AND THEIR MONEY. SO IF ANYONE ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING, THEY SHOULDN'T BE FLIPPING OVER CIVILIAN'S CARS OR BREAKING SHOP WINDOWS, THEY SHOULD INSTEAD BE CONCENTRATING THEIR EFFORTS ON THE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH; THE POLICE. HELL, IF YOU LOOK OVER AT THE UK, THE POLICE IS SCARED OF TEENAGERS! [ WWW.TELEGRAPH.CO.UK ]
LOOOL. If you wanna bring stones and molotov cocktails to the protest, I'll watch yer back! Are you down? |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Souldah replied on Tue Feb 26, 2008 @ 5:07am |
 Coolness: 48200 | we need an anti riot police training camp.... but more realisticly....
I think everyone on ravewave should be going to this. Wats ravewave for but freedom of expression? and who's the archenemy of expression but the cops. All a matter of opinion but even if your not some punk with a mohawk you should still go. Your not going to get arrested if you stay on the sidelines and keep an eye out for for police rushes so you don't get stuck in one. Come out anyway even if your not much of an anarchist, bring your camera's, document. thats how you'll make a change. If you think you can't make a change then you already failed. Take enough photo's, get enough evidence and follow through on reports and you can. o and by the way i mention this on any thread with cops in it..... FUCK THE POLICE!!!!!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» lacasse.bob replied on Tue Feb 26, 2008 @ 9:18am |
 Coolness: 60055 | C clair qu'une manif changera jamais le monde, un tout petit peu peut-être... La raison pour laquelle je serai la le 15 mars c pour rencontrer des gens qui pensent comme moi, qui ont une dent contre la police et tous ses abus. C'est pour que les gens se réunissent, se reconnaissent et voient qui sont pas tout seul. Il faut aussi se rappeler que c'est une journée MONDIALE de protestation a travers le monde et que c'est en solidarité avec toutes les victimes de répression policière que l'on manifestera. Si le COBP ne faisait que ça, une manif a chaque anné, ce serait pratiquement inutile... Mais les membres du COBP sont très actifs et produisent plusieurs document d'enquête et d'information ( Un petit cahier "Surprise on a des droits", entre autre ), cette manif est donc pour eux une facon de vérifier un peu le resultat de leur "propagande" et de constater combien de gensa partagent leur point de vue.
Pas besoin non plus de tout détruire tout sur notre passage pour manifester, moi-même j'aime pas trop le vandalisme tout a fait gratuit que j'ai vu faire il y a deux ans ( genre vider la poubelle de quelqun dans la rue ), c'.est pourquoi je sais aussi que je ne me ferai pas arreter, je suis aller trois fois a cette manif et jamais je me suis fait arreter ( pas pour ca en tout cas...) En novembre dernier je me suis fait battre par 10 agents anti-émeutes pour avoir lancé une Glosette a un d'entre eux... Faque hell yeah que je vais en profiter pour exulter un peu mon agressivité |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sabinonstop replied on Tue Feb 26, 2008 @ 3:08pm |
 Coolness: 92380 | En novembre dernier je me suis fait battre par 10 agents anti-émeutes pour avoir lancé une Glosette a un d'entre eux...
aux raisins ou aux arachides! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BonneNuit replied on Tue Feb 26, 2008 @ 4:25pm |
 Coolness: 52460 | jsut don't get crazy while stating your mind and do it within respect and then you'll have the right to ask for the same back in return..... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Tue Feb 26, 2008 @ 4:28pm |
| Coolness: 282405 | Originally Posted By SABINONSTOP
En novembre dernier je me suis fait battre par 10 agents anti-émeutes pour avoir lancé une Glosette a un d'entre eux... aux raisins ou aux arachides! wow, im surprised you're ok, really :/ don't thrown anything at cops with shields, they get ya ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Tue Feb 26, 2008 @ 6:31pm |
 Coolness: 103205 | Funny how every year the protest against police brutality inevitably turns into the showcase on police brutality |
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