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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DonLouis replied on Wed Jan 9, 2008 @ 3:51pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Wed Jan 9, 2008 @ 4:06pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» deadandgone replied on Wed Jan 9, 2008 @ 9:12pm |
 Coolness: 62540 | Ahaha, and well, I'm writing about this and not "more important subjects" because I had tomfind somehting that I'm interested in for the school newspaper because I'm in Mass Media. I an well not interested in much that is world related. All those wars and taxes and diseases can go else where. There are enough people focusing on that right now. I honestly don't care because it doesn't effect me, but if it would, then, well, I'd have to pay attention to it, but I won't go out of my way to make sure I know everydays headline. Fuck CNN, I don't like the news, too depressing. And all the good things that are shown, they are small useless things.
And besides, all the main issues that are focused on through the news, they can't be stopped, you can't go in between a war and tell them to stop and expect them to listen. You can't find the cure for aids, and why bother? You'd just be opening the door to other more difficult disease that may even more so, never be able to be cured. Things happen, and this is what I'm doing. So from what I understand, the rave scene accepts everyone, you all still love it very much, you just feel that there is a tension because of the people who go there in groups and stay in that group only and it's not so PLURific anymore? But the music and those wanderers are still great, right? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Wed Jan 9, 2008 @ 10:16pm |
 Coolness: 158335 | Ravers are a subculture like any other. The biggest misconception is that ravers are all high as fuck, live like hippies and have this big community of love and respect.
Imagine doing a report on "hip hop"; too many genres to generalize like that. Ravers want to spend a good time. Some go to socialize and other for the music. I never cared for PLUR but some do and I won't stop them. The only major difference between a music show and a rave is that the people going are a hell of a lot more understanding, music-wise. A lot more accepting of DJ experimentation, of having no lyrics, etc. When's the last time you've seen people happy that a rock band tries new material instead of tee same rehashed classic? Here, it happens. There's also a lot more interactivity. The best raves happen when the people participate; are part of the event. It's not something you see everywhere and it does happen in other genres. It just happens that the ravers do it more often. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Thu Jan 10, 2008 @ 10:29am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Fri Jan 11, 2008 @ 2:48am |
 Coolness: 91790 | ^^ The rave scene is a scene. And just like any scene, it will attract people who are looking for a sense of social belongingness and for sense of identity.
That's not necessarily a bad thing. Something that is admirable about the rave scene is that, at its best, its very open and inclusive to just about everyone, no matter who you are or where your coming from. Theres no better way to make a new crew of friends at a rave than to tell people its your first party. Try that at a punk or indie rock show and you'll probably just get alot of weird looks. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Jan 11, 2008 @ 10:09am |
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ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MOONDANCER WHAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT RAVES IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, ALL AGES AND ALL STYLES OF MUSIC AND DRESS COME TOGETHER AND THEIR DIFFERENCES ARE NEVER CONSIDERED A BAD THING. ORIGINALITY AND BEING YOURSELF IS ENCOURAGED IN A POSITIVE WAY. THAT WAS THE THEORY, YES. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A START TOWARDS PEOPLE LEARNING TO LOVE EACH OTHER. MAYBE IT WAS, FOR A SHORT WHILE. IN FACT, IT SEEMS TO HAVE BECOME A WAY TO "BELONG" TO A "CLIQUE". THE MUSIC AND DECORATIONS STILL MAKE FOR A FUN TIME THOUGH. AND THERE ARE SOME NICE PEOPLE. PEOPLE WHO DON'T JUST "ACT NICE BECAUSE IT'S A RAVE". What I said was an observation and has nothing to do with old school raves or raver philosophy, I don't know why you're talking about how it used to be or what it was supposed to be. This is a complete misinterpretation of my commentary. I was making an observation, not stating a theory. There's a fine line between observation and theory. We can have different experiences and observations but don't tell me that mine is wrong. Anything we can say about raves or ravers is only true in comparison. Every subculture suffers from this need to "belong" and cliqueiness, they are all cliques just in themselves to begin with. However in my personal experience I find it's a little less cliquey in rave culture, maybe it's just me. There are many many other things which are worse in rave culture and which I may find sanctuary from in others. There is no use saying anything if we're not comparing it to something else. You're staement abotu cliqueiness is empty in that sense. She asked us what was the positive point that drove us to raves and in my case it is something which very much existed then and still does now and I think it's really idealistic to expect anything more. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Horus replied on Fri Jan 11, 2008 @ 11:31am |
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Originally Posted By Horus
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That was the theory, yes. It might have been a start towards people learning to love each other. Maybe it was, for a short while. In fact, it seems to have become a way to "belong" to a "clique". The music and decorations still make for a fun time though. And there are some nice people. People who don't just "act nice because it's a rave". What I like most about raves is that there are so many different people from all walks of life, all ages and all styles of music and dress come together and their differences are never considered a bad thing. Originality and being yourself is encouraged in a positive way. What I said was an observation and has nothing to do with old school raves or raver philosophy, I don't know why you're talking about how it used to be or what it was supposed to be. This is a complete misinterpretation of my commentary. I was making an observation, not stating a theory. There's a fine line between observation and theory. We can have different experiences and observations but don't tell me that mine is wrong. Anything we can say about raves or ravers is only true in comparison. Every subculture suffers from this need to "belong" and cliqueiness, they are all cliques just in themselves to begin with. However in my personal experience I find it's a little less cliquey in rave culture, maybe it's just me. There are many many other things which are worse in rave culture and which I may find sanctuary from in others. There is no use saying anything if we're not comparing it to something else. You're staement abotu cliqueiness is empty in that sense. She asked us what was the positive point that drove us to raves and in my case it is something which very much existed then and still does now and I think it's really idealistic to expect anything more. I find your comment very intelligent and well-put. I agree, there is an accepting-ness to the rave scene that is absent pretty much everywhere else. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Sat Jan 12, 2008 @ 9:14am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Jan 12, 2008 @ 11:00am |
 Coolness: 201325 | And I think its ironic that you think its a waste of time to write about raves, yet your a music producer. Maybe you shouldn't be "wasting your time" making music and instead be over in Africa handing out mosquito nets, or camping out in front of corporate headquarters protesting their monopolies?
You are making the mistake of associating the rave scene with music; most ravers know nothing about music. There are still a lot of people who think the DJs make all the music they play. The rave scene is a fake music scene. There are very few real performances or even semi-live performances (computer aided sets). Something that is admirable about the rave scene is that, at its best, its very open and inclusive to just about everyone, no matter who you are or where your coming from.
And at its worst you get threatened for saying crystal-meth is bad :-D |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Sun Jan 13, 2008 @ 1:40pm |
 Coolness: 76810 | Just hearing the word Rave makes me cringe, and I live with Noah... I can't believe anyone can still call these tiny parties we see these days raves. Raves were, at the height of their popularity, huge, huge things with thousands upon thousands of people.
Doing any sort of research on the rave scene, as it was, should be research on the TAZ, Spiral Tribe, A Guy Called Gerald, even further back to Madchester... there's nothing to see here anymore. It's like doing a documentary on the Viet Nam war but going and filming the footage now. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Sun Jan 13, 2008 @ 1:55pm |
 Coolness: 106215 | The size should definitely not be the criteria by witch to judge the quality of an event.
"A rave by any other name..." |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Sun Jan 13, 2008 @ 2:26pm |
| Coolness: 76810 | Well I am on [ rave.ca ] talking about how I think the word is being applied to pretty much any all-night electronic music event without discretion...
If it's just that raves have changed, then go ahead, call it a rave. I guess there are small raves too... It used to take a lot of preparation and determination to get to a rave, to stay there, to be able to deal with the swarms of people, and after years of enduring these overcrowded parties nobody I knew wanted to associate at all with raving anymore. As of 2000 everyone I knew in the rave scene was just calling them parties. The word became pretty heat as well, it was like waving a beacon to the police telling them that there were drugs on the premises. This is what I knew as an old schooler and the people I know from back then all laugh at the idea that the word still goes around. Many people set out to be as different from the consistently sketchy scene that had become rave over time, and we worked on fostering a community around the party throwing. There were some people who went very sustainable culture oriented, others who were just about the squat mentality and protest, and others still who felt it was best to play the game like the rest of the music promoters out there. It became a political split, and it was often associated with the music involved. This isn't to say that people stopped putting on raves, it's more I feel that the spirit and ideology was transforming for some, others got influenced, but hadn't really done their homework, leading into the same traps over and over again. I still feel like everyone who had their roots in rave culture will carry that over into anything they do, but I strongly feel that the newer generations are getting a raw deal. Looking at your "rave" as an event just like any other opens up the possibilities, so that you realize you're doing your own thing. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Horus replied on Sun Jan 13, 2008 @ 2:31pm |
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Dude, whoa... It's what I've been trying to say, but with such better words than mine. Props. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Sun Jan 13, 2008 @ 6:18pm |
 Coolness: 159220 | LukePeril : props and massive respect. We see pretty much eye to eye on what used to be the rave scene. I'm an oldschooler myself (ask Noah) and I must agree with what you said.
Raves have taken so many different significations over the years, it's incredible. To me, the word " rave " symbolizes those events that were held in abandoned buildings, build from the ground up in less than 3 days, with pure desires of no-holds-barred fun as fuel for such extraordinary short term efforts. I certainly understand that it means something entirely different for someone who started raving in 2001, when the Since was alive (and not dieing) and kicking at full steam. And I agree that somehow, politics wrecked it all up. But you know ? Comparing notes like we are all doing in this thread is what's all about. Yeah, we all lived this wonderful experience but we all saw it so differently and it's always interesting hearing someone else's side of the story. All I know is those careless years spend in those so-called " raves " were amongst the best years I've wasted in my life and I don't regret a single minute of it. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Sun Jan 13, 2008 @ 7:15pm |
| Coolness: 106215 | The "ravewave" may have passed for some, but is rising for others down the line. The "scene" will never be the same as it was, as it is the representation of the peoples that make it up, and most of the peoples that where there, back in the day, are out.
I guess you can call what raves have become as you will: party's, events, festivals or gatherings, but its all just semantics. There's a new generation of "ravers" out there building on the terrain that was left for them, dealing with a totally different reality, reinventing the proverbial wheel and i'll bet they are having as much fun as any of us did "back in the day". |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Eve-Hill replied on Mon Jan 14, 2008 @ 12:02am |
 Coolness: 71860 | I get what is being said about the rave scene not being anything what it used to be, what it was years ago, what it is supposed to be etc etc.
BUT to me it's better to atleast have something, even though it may be so very different than the original idea or scene if it allows certain genres of music help stay alive. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Mon Jan 14, 2008 @ 1:59am |
| Coolness: 91790 | If theres one thing that will never change in the rave scene, its that there will always be people bitching about how parties used to be so much better back in the day. Even back in '93 there were already people saying that the scene was dead, and that parties werent the same as they were in '87. Sure, some years have more or bigger parties than other years, but i don't think size alone is the best criteria to judge how good a party is. Actually, some of my best memories are from parties that were no bigger than 200 people.
The truth is that after partying for several years, i definetly dont get the same euphoria from being at a rave as i did back in the day. Nowadays a party is just another party, its not something that i'll even remember much a month later 'cuz all the nights just have a way of blurring into one another. But i don't blame the "scene" for that cuz i see kids at these parties with the same amount of enthusiasm that i had for parties when i first started raving, so i know that the source of the greatest change lies within and not in the scene. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lone_Star replied on Mon Jan 14, 2008 @ 2:10am |
 Coolness: 153155 | Nicely said |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Mon Jan 14, 2008 @ 3:14am |
 Coolness: 102865 | If 2000 is old school then I must be a fucking antediluvian. Poor girl is just asking what are your thoughts and experience on the current scene or whatever you peeps call it now. Because in a few years, it will be old school for her.
RainbooFright, you need to be more focus on what the article is about because it's too vague... What exactly is your thesis or essay about? |
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