Bush'S Evidence Against Iran
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Skicks replied on Tue Feb 13, 2007 @ 10:33pm |
 Coolness: 176760 | Anything Bush says is crap. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» aLxzRed replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 11:11am |
 Coolness: 68735 | I'm sure that the oil plays a big part, but in Tom Robbins book
he talks about the temple of [ en.wikipedia.org ] And how the mosque that is there needs to be destroyed And A third jewish temple needs to be built there for jesus to return So a crazy man would think he was doing Gods work in starting a world war, he's helping to fulfill revelations so - Jesus can come back. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 11:21am |
 Coolness: 92305 | hehe, I had the same idea/suspicion, I'm surprised I'm not the only one. There's nothign to say it is and there's nothign to say it isn't. My view changed of him a lot since he became president. After a while I've started to see Bush more and more like a:crazy and b:relious fanactic who thinks he can save the world from their sins. Update » moondancer wrote on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 11:24am I htink he really believes that he was chosen by god. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» aLxzRed replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 11:50am |
| Coolness: 68735 | I think he's told he was chosen by God, he's just a puppet, come-on. The question is who's pulling the strings, or more importantly, what is there intention? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 11:57am |
| Coolness: 92305 | yeah. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 12:15pm |
 Coolness: 51010 | Originally Posted By MOONDANCER A:CRAZY AND B:RELIGIOUS FANACTIC WHO THINKS HE CAN SAVE THE WORLD FROM THEIR SINS.
coincidentally, this is basically the official doctrine of extreme islamic fundamentalism. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mike_Stinger replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 12:18pm |
 Coolness: 51280 | I think Bush's religious stuff is just to entice chirsitians into the military. The whole point of the iraq war is to establish a beach-head in the middle east. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» aLxzRed replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 12:42pm |
| Coolness: 68735 | Unless he really does believe, I find that ever scarier! Update » aLxzRed wrote on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 12:43pm Not that I'm against belief, quite the contrary, but a crazyman's belief is not the same |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 12:55pm |
| Coolness: 92305 | Originally Posted By MORPHINE
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MOONDANCER A:CRAZY AND B:RELIGIOUS FANACTIC WHO THINKS HE CAN SAVE THE WORLD FROM THEIR SINS. COINCIDENTALLY, THIS IS BASICALLY THE OFFICIAL DOCTRINE OF EXTREME ISLAMIC FUNDAMENTALISM. Nice try but I'm really not THAT ignorant. Update » moondancer wrote on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 12:56pm oh well you did say extreme islamic fundamentalism. Okay yeah, I guess that works. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 12:57pm |
 Coolness: 339705 | stop hating on jesus, i'm trying to eat him for lunch. geez. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 2:36pm |
| Coolness: 51010 | ya, one just subjugates women and burns their clits off, the other straps bombs to themselves and commit suicide while taking as many innocents with them as possible... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Feb 14, 2007 @ 3:24pm |
| Coolness: 339705 | Oo Oo! I know who does that stuff..!
Is it..... religious people? :D |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 9:54am |
 Coolness: 102805 | oy ! my soul is lamenting with sigh
Even tho lots of former corporate ceo's and executives are sitting within the Bush's Cabinet, the eminent conflict between US and Iran is NOT about OIL, nor a Military-Corporate complex [ www.opensecrets.org ] United States The Bush Administration blames the problems of the Middle-East on Iran. They can't admit their own failures. The secular violence in Irak was not foreseen by the Bush Administration . Bush 'cowboy diplomacy' for invasion and occupation is a colossal failure. Nearly as bad as Vietnam. Americans tend to accuse anyone but themselves.. illegal aliens, China, Islam, Terrorists etc.. Even better they ignore Nature and Global Warming. George Bush has 2 years left and he wants to leave a legacy. The success of his Presidency depend US security in the World. Largely depending in bringing Democracy in the Middle-East. Ha well, funny how US topple one dictatorship ( Saddam ) but still support another ( Saudi' s Monarchy). George Bush may well chose military action against Iran, 'cause " i am the decision-maker " " i am the decider". The Bush Administration doesn't ask the Congress for permission, it tells Congress what they will do. Iran The President of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is cut from the same cloth as Bush. Same thing different religion. But Iran isn't a dictatorship or "rogue" country, it has political balances and power. Already Ahmadinejad is receiving criticisms and being check by the Ayatollahs. Look where Iran is, you have India and Pakistan to the East... They are both nuclear power. Further we have China.. Up north we have Russia, but Russians help them build nuclear facilities and even sold them surface-to-air missiles.. To the West, Israel with their nukes. Iran is pursuing to enrich uranium, it is for their own security... But they are hurting bad.. by UN sanctions and US sanction ( umm convincing foreigners not to invest $$ in Iran ) . If they are ambitious enough, Iran will get the nuke. Economics The Iran Oil bourse. What this does, basically it's buying and selling oil with only Euros and not the USD$. It would devalue the US dollars . Because all the world would accept it. European Union, well duh. Russian largely trades with Europe. China and Japan won't have to depend on large reserves. Opec will love it 'cause most of the them are Middle-East countries. Basically the US, the US Federal Bank ( which isn't a Goverment department.... ) but anyhow, don't want to see it happen.. The strenght of the US dollar is more important than all the freaking Oil fields in Persia. The value of the US dollar will plumet 'cause it will have to buy Euros for their huge fossil fuel demands and the US Imperialistic economy Empire will fall behind China. Global Security Does the Bush Administration want to strike now and have to face the anger of the entire Islamic World and its own US citizens or wait till Iran has a nuclear capabilities? Either way tough choice. And a surgical air strike won't stop it, because Iran has many facilities scatter around in underground bunkers. US can't even secure Irak, how is even invading Iran, who is what 5 times bigger, a possibility. Irak is a failure, the democracy progress is being overshadowed by secular violences. If Bush did anything for the security of the USA, is create a breeding ground for even more terrorists. He is certainly one of the worst American President. " The supreme importance of the military instrument lies in the fact that ultimate ratio of power in international relations is war." - Edward Hallett Carr, The Twenty Years' Crisis 1919-1939: An introduction to the Study of International Relations. Update » Trey wrote on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 9:58am Sorry i can't cut it any shorter than. Global politics and economy is just too complex for Blood for Oil. Update » Trey wrote on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 10:00am ( correction ) shorter than that. Global Politics and World Economy is just too complex than simply reduce it to " Blood for Oil". |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 10:09am |
| Coolness: 51010 | i think that its pretty safe to say that any country who routinely imprisons dissidents (religious, political & otherwise) and holds them without trail indefinetly, denies their right to defense, tortures them, kills them, sanctions stoning of its women in the streets, severely censors its media, and whose leaders grow unimaginably rich by exploiting the country's national resources at the expense of the populace at large can be considered a dictatorship-in-practice. iran is a kleptocracy run by kleptocrats. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 6:55pm |
| Coolness: 102805 | Call it whatever you want a Kleptocracy, an Autocracy, an Theocracy, et cetera....but can any State have the rights to secure sovereign security and if so, then the pursuit of nuclear power would be only fair.. However this isn't a fair world.
If Iran is an dictatorship-in-practice like you say, would that be enough to give the US the go ahead and use military strike against it? I am no fan of Ayatollah Khomeini Islamic Iran, but reasons to attack Iran are sketchy. What about America? see how they treat their poor ( New Orleans ), innocents ( Guantanamo Bay ), rigging Elections ( 2002, 2006 ), restriction of the media, LYING to the People ( Congress) , LYING to the UN ( no weapon of mass destruction), literally putting a whole fucking country to civil war and the death and suffering of thousands( Irak ), access to legal abortion, etc... Like i said, cut from the same cloth, except one is a Superpower. Calling US the "Great Satan of the World" and calling Iran "an Axis of Evil", is pretty much the same to me. The difference is , the Persians KNOW they live in an oppressive Regime while the Americans don't even realized that they are not as free as they think they like to be. One is just better at manipulating the mass and media. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 7:49pm |
 Coolness: 153045 | and americans stop everyone from having atomic bomb...
but they are the one who have the most and the more powerfull. they want to have supreme control over everyone ... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 8:44pm |
| Coolness: 51010 | so youre saying that since america has blood on its hands, so to speak, it is no position to make some kind of military strike, offensive or otherwise, against iran, even if a byproduct of such a strike would be the neutralization of the iranian nuclear issue?
are you also saying that in effect, american, and by extension western society, is just as "unfree" as iran? and what is wrong with having access to legal abortion in america? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 8:47pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Thu Feb 15, 2007 @ 11:27pm |
 Coolness: 73125 | Originally Posted By MORPHINE
[bold]so youre saying that since america has blood on its hands, so to speak, it is no position to make some kind of military strike, offensive or otherwise, against iran, even if a byproduct of such a strike would be the neutralization of the iranian nuclear issue?[/bold] I think America's best bet would be to sit back and let the rest of the world handle this. If the Iranian Nuclear issue is in-fact real let someone else take care of it. The fucking UN is there for a reason. [bold]are you also saying that in effect, american, and by extension western society, is just as "unfree" as iran? [/bold] I think they are in certain respects [bold]and what is wrong with having access to legal abortion in america?[/bold] nothing |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 12:24am |
| Coolness: 339705 | all the text on the page is already bold.. :p
btw, bombing iran will kill tons of innocent people. being born in the wrong country means it's ok for you to be murdered by a foreign government that doesn't like what your government is doing? |
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