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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:35pm |
 Coolness: 509620 | If you were president, or god, or a dictator? What changes to society would you make? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:40pm |
 Coolness: 81750 | If Wyclef was president he'd be elected on friday, assassinated on saturday, burried on sunday... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:42pm |
 Coolness: 122370 | ....ummmm ok |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:43pm |
| Coolness: 81750 | Dude, tell me you've at least heard the song!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:44pm |
| Coolness: 122370 | apparently not |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:45pm |
| Coolness: 509620 | i've heard it, it's an accurate quote....
i'd save the planet, that's what I'd do |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:49pm |
| Coolness: 81750 | Just the planet? Why stop there when there are other galaxies in jeapardy of being destroyed / imploded? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:53pm |
| Coolness: 122370 | and i quote: "that'd seriously fuck up the space time continuum my friend..."
one planet in an endless landscape is one thing, but that would just destroy the delicate balance of the universe |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:53pm |
 Coolness: 153065 | id just screw everyone off telling them to go fuck themselfs im not gonna save them! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:58pm |
| Coolness: 81750 | I'd transcend beyond the purest form of righteousness and become a zealot in the fight to preserve all that exists. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 1:59pm |
| Coolness: 122370 | sounds pretty boring if you ask me, i say spice it up a bit with some chaos |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 2:15pm |
 Coolness: 685650 | Teaching any and all forms of religion would be punishable by death. I would re-instate a culling of the weak. The way the human race is going these days is completely against the natural laws of evolution. We need to stop weakness from taking over our species as a whole. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 2:23pm |
| Coolness: 509620 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
Teaching any and all forms of religion would be punishable by death. I would re-instate a culling of the weak. The way the human race is going these days is completely against the natural laws of evolution. We need to stop weakness from taking over our species as a whole. I agree whole heartedly... we (me and you) are truly cruel bastards and would likely never meet our own standards. In fact, Hitler had a similar vision... which brings me to my death thread.. everyone's gonna die, better humans make for better parts of existence, but without hardship, we'd likely never feel the need to progress... all of this is so debatable. But yeah.. I think health care is bullshit... why save the weak and in essence make our own future full of weaklings who need healthcare... IMO we're not dying off fast enough |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 2:27pm |
| Coolness: 122370 | wait till it's your turn, then you'll singing a different tune
ah double standards... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 2:29pm |
| Coolness: 509620 | I whole heartedly agree! lol
I say kill the bad and weak, unless I'm the bad weak one, then help me!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 2:32pm |
| Coolness: 685650 | I totally don't fit my own standards, and believe me, most of the time I *do* wish I was dead than to have gone through a fraction of the shit I've gone through in my life. Technicaly I should be dead. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 2:42pm |
| Coolness: 81750 | Diversity makes for the best existence because without physical, mental, social, or cultural differences we wouldn't even have a base for comparing ourselves which would hinder our potential to learn.
I've debated this topic along with similar tangent-topics with a cousin of mine quite frequenty. He's a Darwinist to the core but blindly neglects the reality that we're all "weak" (according to his very own definition) because we all possess certain imperfections. Fortunately we've reached a point in time where evolution has branched off. The traditional "alpha-person" (notice how I'm note using alpha-male to be politically correct) no longer exists because people have different individual priorities for their continuing genetic bloodlines. Darwin would say the true alpha-person is he who posesses the healthiest genetics to resist disease or disorder and posesses physical strength to dominate others within the surrounding environment (society or otherwise). We've proven however that this isn't necessarily what's best for the family structure or the species as a whole. The financial alpha-person is the most productive within a capitalist society or encironment and by implication has more social influence on those around them. The mental alpha-person posesses the highest level of intellectual potential allowing them to learn, understand, explain, and redistribute information to those around them which also has a very strong social and scientific influence on society... In essence you could use the term alpha-person to describe people with very different, even opposing characterists however none of them rank any more superior to the others because without each other none of them would survive on their own in the long run... Lemme break it down this way, humanity isn't going to evolve (physically) for another few hundred thousand years which means the only evolution we're going to do for the next lil' while has to be social. As a species that survives socially more than any other species, it's obviously the more important factor to focus on overall. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 3:35pm |
| Coolness: 509620 | Originally Posted By __PHOENIX__
Diversity makes for the best existence because without physical, mental, social, or cultural differences we wouldn't even have a base for comparing ourselves which would hinder our potential to learn. In essence you could use the term alpha-person to describe people with very different, even opposing characterists however none of them rank any more superior to the others because without each other none of them would survive on their own in the long run... Lemme break it down this way, humanity isn't going to evolve (physically) for another few hundred thousand years which means the only evolution we're going to do for the next lil' while has to be social. As a species that survives socially more than any other species, it's obviously the more important factor to focus on overall. Well, to say something about the first paragraph... we'd just learn something else. We adapt to anything and besides, if everyone was much more similar than they are now... All white for example, we'd just be MORE detailed about differences and still have the same range of different kinds of people... only the constraints would be different. Also, about evolution, it may take 1000 years or it could happen tomorrow, all we need is for a freak to be born and be different in a positive way that allows him to reproduce more, and his genes would take over over many generations... there's no real way to predict evolution though, as it's purely a random phenomenon that brings it all about. Alpha people do still exists, but as you describe, now it's physical, mental, attitude and monetary as opposed to just survival. If you like your race though, have more sex, have children because Africa and india and china are having all the sex and all the children and they are going to replace us unless we compete, with reproduction... doesn't matter if we're better (not saying we are) but whoever has the most offspring wins... point finale |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Angeliknightmare replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 3:45pm |
 Coolness: 81235 | i would try my best to have nature, technology and people work together in perfect harmony.
what? you asked. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 4:20pm |
| Coolness: 81750 | Zed: I'm glad we're debating this cause it's a very important topic and something I've contemplated with others numerous times. I find your definition, or implication of winning is actually quite similar to that of my cousin's. It doesn't upset me because alot of people believe that reproduction and genetic redistribution is one of, if not the soul "purpose" of living.
Personally I have a different view and think the very concept of success is defined relative to the individual and doesn't necessarily require genetic distribution or procreating. Contrary to what we've been conditioned to believe there's actually no "benefit" to dominating the planet with one's own genetic code. Even if you were to reproduce at a much more accelerated rate than everyone else, eventually assimilating all other genetic codes with your own how would that benefit the species, you as an individual, or make you any more successful? Genetic competition is completely selfish, virtual, irrelevent, and doesn't neccesarily dictate or predispose the species as a whole towards any particular evolutionary benefits. Meanwhile cooperation allows for constructive potential, inevitable working towards creating a superior future existence. Granted, if your bloodline took over the spiecies it could probably rewrite history and change that which is labeled as knowledge eventhough other absolute truths would still exist regardless of the knowledge thereof. If anything you'd be a traitor to the species by deceiving everyone (which at this point would all be your direct or indirect genetic offspring) into accepting that other human genetics never existed (and that those which could've continued to exist will never exist because of your direct intervention for a selfish individual agenda. If I had to choose, I think I'd rather leave behind a legacy of useful data that could and would directly and indirectly benefit a potentially infinite amount of people, and who knows, perhaps even other sentient species. That would mean more to me as than simply assimilating the species with my genetics because for all I know they would live using ideologies which weren't even necessarily my own, or my family's. My cousin believes whole-heartedly that every person has a responsability to have grandchildren and that doing do label's them Darwinistically successful. Apparently, according to him, having children isn't good enough because if they don't procreate than you've "failed" (Darwinistically speaking of course) as a human being because there's no guarantee that they'll procreate themselves and continue the bloodline / genetic code. The way I see it having children, grandchildren, or 10 generations worth of offspring doesnt necessarilly label you successful at all because eventhough you've increased the probability of your genetics procreating, there's no guarantee that the code will survive forever. The chain (or faily tree) could split / branch off in more directions than one could count but say after you pass on the genetic code is broken somewhere along the lines, does that imply that your entire existence was in vain and that factors beyond any one person's control makes them an instant failure? Perhaps in their own eyes but definitely not in the eyes of others. hy do I say this? because as I stated earlier, success is definite differently relative to each individual. My cousin actually told me that he would consider himself a failure in life if he couldn't guarantee grandchildren which I told him was complete blasphemy. He rebuttaled me by saying that regardless of how others viewed him, he himself would die with what he refered to as "knowledge" (eventhough in reality is only his personal opinion / perspective) of his failure. I could only assure him that the falseness of his dying perspective might only encourage others to view him as even more successful than they would have otherwise because they would focus even more on his other accomplishments. What troubles me most is this.... How can any of us possibly weigh so much importance on something as superficial as genetic quantification which is nothing more than an arbitrary identifier to begin with that doesn't even define a person's potential? I'm of the opinion that It's not simply unust, but a complete disservice to oneself for ay one poerson to make that their sole, or primary purpose in life. As we're already aware, we're capable of changing the world in so many other ways that genetics are nothing more than negligible semantics that we view as being essentially important on a personal level because we see DNA as a unique identifier which defines us as individual beings. How is it possible that our own arrogance as individuals has forgotten that ALL OF US share about 97% of the same DNA code anyways? Even if we didn't descend from "Adam" & "Eve" as the bible suggests, we definitely descended from common hominids which means that each and every one of us, past, present, and future, represent success in it's rawest and purest form: The success tof humanity. As homosapiens We have survived as a species for about half a million years according to forensics experts and one can only assume that we will continue to survive as a species for an undetermined, inconceivable length of time (on this planet or elsewhere if we eventually migrate) so why should we even care about closing the gap between us which is already so tight and only has about a 3% margin for difference anyways? Update » Phoenix wrote on Wed Nov 29, 2006 @ 4:21pm PS: Sorry that post was so long but I wanted to make sure you can understand the nature of what I'm trying so desperately to express. |
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