Smoking Ban 31st
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Sat Jun 3, 2006 @ 1:04am |
 Coolness: 150600 | *shakes finger* |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 10:48am |
 Coolness: 81830 | To feel liberated is: To breathe easily with less.... which helps to feel more physically energetic...consequently increasing your mental awareness...resulting in the revelation that none of us are biologically predisposed to submit to chemically addictive substances... allowing peace of mind and true divinity.
You have the power to save yourselves... Don't think you do, know you do |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 11:47am |
 Coolness: 201365 | ya for real, we cant smoke on public places but its ok to bring a kirpan(ceremonial dagger/knife) to school. and also possibly lowering the gun registry regulations...theres no fuckin logic in that.
You could always claim you are native and the smoking is ceremonial :D But as for the paying customer thing, other people who are paying customers have the right to not suffer from smoke. Especially people with severe asthma or whatever. I went to foufs a couple of days ago, and it was nice to not smell like I smoked 1000 cigarettes. They actually broke the walls down on the upstairs patio, and that became a smoking section... So it's really not that bad for the smokers there .anyway |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 12:16pm |
 Coolness: 248565 | yesterday was my first day at job since the smoking ban and seriously i had more people than a normal sunday.For sure ,the terrace is more popular ! The video pokers were full too..they took break to go outside ,relax a little(maybe lose less money ehahea).I had a smoking customer by the way who said he wouldn't come at the bar anymore cuz of the law..and he was there yesterday LOL..So i think this smoking ban is a really good thing finally and everyone seam to accept it very well! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 1:35pm |
 Coolness: 84015 | phoenix...
GET A HAIRCUT YOU GOD DAMN HIPPY!!! its pussys like you that are getting the rights of canadian buisness owner takin' away slowly across the board... how would you like it if you didn't have the right to say what you can and can't do inside your own establishment that you worked your balls off to build? and more importantly is big brother going to re-emburse the lost profits? lots of buisness were already non smoking before the ban... because they feel they benifited from it. the buisnesses that weren't, were either making money of it or just plain didn't mind it. personly if i owned a bar a wouldn't want to see my clientelle gathered outside smoking cigarettes instead of inside drinking beer... i think its gunna seriously affect the revenue of our entertainment and tourist industrys. its just not cool. nobody ever forced your smelly hippy ass to go to drink in a smokey bar. and nobody said you couldn't open a bar thats non smoking either. You have the power to save yourselves
if i have the power to save myself... why do i need the government to step in and do it for me? like if i'm an english smoker... who's buisness caters mainly to other english smokers... why can't i have an english sign and ashtrays on the tables? thats some bullshit right there if you ask me. and just for the record... i'd rather be hotboxed in a closet inhaling a bush fire than have to endure the smell of dirty unwashed hippys on the dance floor. THATS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE A LAW AGAINST IT!! i go to bars to do bad things... and since the smoking ban bars are looking like churches but with less drunks and pedophiles. and just for the record... i don't smoke cigarettes. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 2:40pm |
| Coolness: 248565 | georges...like i said before ..(taking the exemple of my bar) since the smoking ban started,we had the same people as always but the difference is they're going outside to smoke...and by the way we had new customers (Non-smokers) who never came because they canno'T smell the cigarettes..Anyway we'll see after a year if it affect the bar industry like you said but for my bar the 1st week was quite good.And i smell good when i come back home muehehea:P |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 3:04pm |
| Coolness: 81830 | Originally posted by MURDOCK ROCK...
phoenix... GET A HAIRCUT YOU GOD DAMN HIPPY!!! That's a a great opening argument from an obviously very mature individual... Originally posted by MURDOCK ROCK...
its pussys like you that are getting the rights of canadian buisness owner takin' away slowly across the board... how would you like it if you didn't have the right to say what you can and can't do inside your own establishment that you worked your balls off to build? Sorry to rain on your parade but if a person can't run a successful business without forceably making every one of their clients and staff members inhale toxic smoke then they shouldn't be in business, or should look to start a business in a different industry. If people could freely smoke anywhere without going to the bar or being subjected to the effects of alcohol then how's it fair that nobody could go drinking at a bar without inevitably inhaling smoke gallons of smoke per hour? Originally posted by MURDOCK ROCK...
and more importantly is big brother going to re-emburse the lost profits? lots of buisness were already non smoking before the ban... because they feel they benifited from it. the buisnesses that weren't, were either making money of it or just plain didn't mind it. personaly if i owned a bar a wouldn't want to see my clientelle gathered outside smoking cigarettes instead of inside drinking beer... i think its gunna seriously affect the revenue of our entertainment and tourist industrys. its just not cool. Do you even realize how juvenile and selfish your argument is?...how can you even defend bar owners who parasidically make their profits off other people's intoxication already and then have no qualms about letting them drive off drunk resulting in uncountable, avoidable accidents... You're basically stating that running a profitable alcohol establishment and maintaining a successful tourist industry absolutely requires killing both your own population as well as the environment. You're a righteous patriot if I ever met one... concerned about our bar owners and Canadian tourist industry more than the overall health of the Canadian population,... The mentality that a few extra million dollars few year would be worth sacrificing a few hundred thousand lives is the same mentality that causes war...the same mentality that causes capitalism to trample over third world countries significantly reducing the quality of their lives for own own personal benefits. Have you ever watched Baraka? its a documentary by Ron Fricke displaying the dangers and effects of mass production on a worldwide scale, and the duality thats created from the western ideals of capitalism... theres one scene showing thousands of women in south america rolling cigarettes by hand so that spoiled fucks like you and I can indulge in an otherwise pointless leasure activity. I suppose your next functionalist argument would say its a good thing they have jobs, instead of acknowledging the reality that these people would be more productive doing anything else... even nothing at all. It's the same guilt-free attitude that tobacco distributors had to sleep well at night rationalizing that people can always get the product "elsewhere" if they weren;t the one's making it readily available. Unfortunately we've all been conditioned to associate financial gain with productivity and most of us will make any sacrifice (or at least consider it) if the pay were sufficient. Fortunately I was brough up with an understanding of principles and dignity. Even if I chose to kill myself by smoking, I don't see why I should be granted the freedom to subject those around me to harmful toxins. The honest truth is that no amount of smoke is negligible and unless a business' primary source of income is from tobacco, then smoking shouldnt be their primary concern. All a bar owner has to due is start selling cigars and apply for a cigar lounge license and they're in the clear. Why haven't most bars done this? simple: they would rather wait and see if the new law increases their business more by encouraging drinkers who don't smoke to go to the extablishment (where they might not have previously). Those who see their business decreased as a result will inevitably have to adapt. Geez, maybe we should all pick up our violins and shed a few tears for the asbestos manufacturers as well...I mean hey, they lost tons of business when scientists discovered that asbestos has potential cancer risks so maybe the law outlawing paints with asbestos content is unconstitutional... Honestly dude, stop playing the victim. You don't own a bar so you shouldnt give a shit, and even if you did then you still have the option to break the law and pay the resulting fines. its quite sickening that someone who claims not even to smoke would defend bar owners and not the innocent employees and clients of these businesses who are simply don't want to be subjected to a harmful environment. The bottom line is simple... -You shouldn't be upset at me, I didn't make the law. -The public wasn't even given the option to vote for the law being established. -Its not even as if people didn't have sufficient time to prepare. It's the same law thats been established in every other major city worldwide... It was an inevitability that you apparently haven't accepted yet. Regardless of whether or not you feel it was implemented prematurely, its established and theres nothing any of us can do about it So you have two choices... You can accept the new law, learn from it, try to see it as an optimistic change for the overall health of society, and start appreciating the freedoms that you still have left. or... You could hate those who established the law resenting them, and maintaining a bitter self-loathing attitude about the fact that you are powerless to changing the law back to the way things used to be. Originally posted by MURDOCK ROCK...
and nobody said you couldn't open a bar thats non smoking either. very true, but ironically enough nobody has,... had there bars and restaurants estacblished that were completely non-smoking then perhaps implementing this new law wouldnt have been absolutely necessary,.. The problem is that the option to go to a smoke-free bar was never even made available so this is the resulting alternative. Originally posted by MURDOCK ROCK...
Originally posted by Phoenix
You have the power to save yourselves if i have the power to save myself... why do i need the government to step in and do it for me? like if i'm an english smoker... who's buisness caters mainly to other english smokers... why can't i have an english sign and ashtrays on the tables? thats some bullshit right there if you ask me. and just for the record... i'd rather be hotboxed in a closet inhaling a bush fire than have to endure the smell of dirty unwashed hippys on the dance floor. THATS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE A LAW AGAINST IT!! i go to bars to do bad things... and since the smoking ban bars are looking like churches but with less drunks and pedophiles. and just for the record... i don't smoke cigarettes. Think of the govenment stepping as a form of forced public rehabilitation. Obviously uptting health warnings on cigarette packs has decreased the overall number of smokers nationwide which is why they saw this as a beneficial move to make. Most addicts are in continuous denial about their problem and are often afraid, ashamed, or embarassed to ask for help... It's true that you cant help people who don't want to be helped which is why there are still going to be plenty of smokers around however those who've had a hard time with their own levels of self-control will at least be discouraged from smoking if the opportunity to do so isnt constantly presented to them in every surrounding environment. Think of it as a form of subliminal motivation... The last thing I wanna say is that I don't think you're upset about the new law banning smoking whatsoever since you even made a point to mention that you don't smoke cigarettes "for the record". After re-reading your entire post it seems you have some serious resentment towards hippies which is what I think this is all about. You made more than one negative comment in your post which leads me to believe that your entire post was nothing more than a personal attack on me. I'm really sorry if one negative isolated experience with a hippy has angered you towards the entire culture but you should make that the point of your argument instead of your foothold to rant about the "rights of smoking". The fact that you even assume that I myself support the hippy culture (which in your mind is obviously based on physical appearences) is nothing more than your immature and discriminatory pseudo-mentality. Next time you want to make a personal attack on the hippy culture start a new thread. I'd hate to think that you would have taken my previous post about this topic more seriously if my hair were shorter. truthfully, You've got alot of maturing to do. ...If my long hair honestly angers you as much as your post implies then you should seek professional therapy cause its causing you to be completely dillusional and I can guarantee that any rational person would agree alot more with the points I've made than your complete lack thereof. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 4:05pm |
| Coolness: 201365 | that post is too long ^^^ |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 4:13pm |
| Coolness: 84015 | HAHAHAHA!!!
as far as the hippy shit... its not you or your hair that bugs me about the hippys... its the happyday dream land they live in. sorry to stereo type you or whatever... but making fun of you made me giggle nonetheless... I accept the fact that i'm an ass like that. anyway the government may be the ones telling us we can't smoke... and that its bad for us... but they are also the ones selling us the fuckin' cigarettes in the first place. there is big money in tobacco and everything that goes along with it. the tobacco ban is just a hypocritical attempt into making us think they acctually care. the big guys still get paid at the end of the day and they have implemented a false sense of hope for the comunity. but who gets fucked? US!! thats who!! the less ppl smoke the higher they jack the taxes... it all evens out in the end... had there bars and restaurants estacblished that were completely non-smoking then perhaps implementing this new law wouldnt have been absolutely necessary
um... have you been living under a rock? there is an ass load of non smoking establishments and they have been around for years. second cup cafe prides it self on its non smokeyness!! and i fuckin' dare you to light up at some of the vegan hotspots around the city... you wil get LENCHED!! anyway... bars are for doing bad stuff like drinking smoking, taking drugs and weaseling our way into womens poop chutes.... sure when you wake up the next day you got black boogers a limp dick and smell like ass... but y'know what... in the end... you earned it like the drunkalist trooper you are!! why you wanna go take all the fun and punishment out of it? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaT_ replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 7:12pm |
 Coolness: 116435 | Originally posted by ! PHOENIX !...
Have you ever watched Baraka? its a documentary by Ron Fricke displaying the dangers and effects of mass production on a worldwide scale, and the duality thats created from the western ideals of capitalism... theres one scene showing thousands of women in south america rolling cigarettes by hand so that spoiled fucks like you and I can indulge in an otherwise pointless leasure activity. that was a dope movie, one of my fav. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 9:15pm |
 Coolness: 158875 | yeah! this movie was awsome ! |
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