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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 15, 2003 @ 9:20pm
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well even if apple did, microsoft's done that a million times.

Halo is an amazing game for xbox. before it was released on xbox, i had been watching [ bungie.com ] waiting for that game to come out for pc/mac for 4 years.. then MS bought bungie out and cancelled the pc/mac versions.

i HATE microsoft for taking away a game i reaaaaaally wanted to play..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Wed Jan 15, 2003 @ 9:30pm
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I guesse you hate nintendo for not releasing PC versions of their games either... It's games that sell the consoles, and microsoft desperately needed a good game exclusively for theirs. Apple, on the other hand, just wants to stall people from switching over to the inexpesive PC platform for making music.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Omni replied on Wed Jan 15, 2003 @ 9:35pm
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But Halo was supposed to be released on PC waaaaayyyy before Microsoft ever knew that the game existed.

I agree that the Apple/Logic Audio thing is pretty lame.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Thu Jan 16, 2003 @ 12:19am
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Composition / Sequencing

Buzz has a horrible interface and the software is horribly buggy. It is centered around the tracker interface however (which is just perfect for drums), and it's completely modular, and 100% free. If you are used to hitting CTRL-S every 2 seconds, and you are a tracker trying to evolve, Buzz would be the next logical step.

Fruity Loops has come a long way in what it can and can not do. As of version 3.56, it has support for everything under the sun and then some, with a much better interface, piano roll, midi events, internal controllers (peak controller plugin that has an LFO), support for DX/VST plugins, DXi/VSTi/Buzz machines, support for ACiD Pro, Zero-X Beat Slicer, comes prepackaged with many goodies. MIDI control on it is still lacking though, and it needs more internal controllers.

LAP is nice, but horribly complex for the newbie. But it does come prepackaged with many cool plugins, including this really rad guitar plugin that can create extremely realistic sounds. It also has a musical notation system to create sheet music. It's interfact can be changed to almost anything you want. One downside to using LAP though is that no more future versions will be available on the PC as Emagic Audio was bought by Apple (which was fine anyways since Emagic didn't really give two shits about PC's anyways).

Cubase SX is like LAP for newbs. It's clean and simple, doesn't come with too much frill, excellent midi support, not sure whether or not it supports DXi, but it does support DX plugins. Of course it has full support for VST/VSTi.

Cakewalk is fine and all, but uh, NEXT!

Reason is as proprietary as Microsoft, a big huge bulky interface that mimics rack machines in real life. It's cumbersome and annoying but it does have such a rich and sweet sound. Try it out just so you can say you've tried out, but it's not worth sticking with.

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Wave / Sample Editing

Sound Forge is the classic, but it's been beaten. It has support for DirectX, but no support for VST. It's processing time is slow, and it's interface horrible. It could get the job done, but uh, NEXT!

WaveLab4 is great. Support for VST & DX plugins using a smart interface to manage all your plugins. It comes with a control window where you can load up 8 or 10 plugins at the same time, allowing maximum control. It's also blazing fast and can support samples upto 24kbps/96kHz.

CoolEdit has great multitrack recording support.

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VSTi/DXis

Absynth has a strange interface, but it can create some very rich sounds. But be warned, it is extremely annoying to create sounds from scratch with their interface and you will probally end up using one of their 255 presets then proceeding to fuck them up using external plugins. The 255 presets is proof of it's power however.

FM7 is also a powerhouse, which a much nicer interface, excellent envelope / lfo / modulation control. That being said it should be noted that FM7 lacks in the bass department and it has trouble creating that thick chunky bass we all crave. That could be fixed with some tweaking in the plugin's department.

There are many other VSTi/DXi's out there, but I haven't had a change to use them all.

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Mastering / Plugins

T-Racks24 is nice, but it's frustrating that it is not a plugin, nor is it a true mixing tool. It mimics rich analog EQs and compressors, but the fact that you can't see your track or have any control on it's position ect. weakens it. Of course, for Mac users, you can use ProTools and the T-Racks ProTools plugin, but you know, we aren't millionaires.

Waves Native Gold Bundle plugins are very nice. They come with an assortment of EQs, compressors, gaters, stereo enhancers, this neat phaser effect thingy called Enigma, excellent pitch shifting, excellent multitap delays, excellent reverbs. All in all, this is what good audio software is all about.

fusion:VINYL is a great plugin for making a track sound like it was ripped off of vinyl. Complete with vinyl style EQing, compression, noise creation (hiss, scratches, bumps, static, dirt), even pitch distortion and stereo imaging. Great to create a clean cut sounding Hammond organ into something that really sounds like it came from the 70ies!

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Hope this helps, contribute to it as you please.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» errorizE replied on Thu Jan 16, 2003 @ 12:37am
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for VSTi/DXi plugins
Id have to say that anything buy Native instruments is elite.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Jan 16, 2003 @ 12:43am
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buzz isn't unstable just some of the plugins are
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Thu Jan 16, 2003 @ 12:44am
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yeah, everything is smooth with vsts tho
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Jan 16, 2003 @ 12:46am
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yeah I haven't had it crash on me much since I switched to vst instruments.. so I suspect it was some of the synths that were fucking stuff up
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Omni replied on Thu Jan 16, 2003 @ 1:43pm
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If Propellerheads added VST support to Reason, I would cum in my pants.
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