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Anne And Greg Got Married??
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Feb 23, 2006 @ 4:35pm
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Nick rawks my sawks ! oh and i miss ya by the way dude :)

-Paul Wall: I was waiting for someone to catch it. - :)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Feb 23, 2006 @ 4:47pm
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Originally posted by PARTY*POPPLE...

Yep, he's in Halifax. Like I said though, he doesn't believe he needs a doctor, and I would fear for anyone's safety who tries to get him to one. Greg says he won't hurt anyone, unless they're trying to hurt him, I think he would interpret an attempt like that as an attack.


You know, that's what the police are for.. if he is a threat to anyone (including himself) you can call the police and have him admitted that way.

I'm not sure why anyone would think twice about this. If he's going to hurt himself or others.. why doesn't someone do something about this?!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PartyPopple replied on Thu Feb 23, 2006 @ 5:30pm
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It's kind of hard to call the police on someone who doesn't live anywhere, he comes and goes very quickly. He has been picked up by the police a few times, but they keep letting him go. Right now, I have no idea where he is in the city. I think, Ian, that people have been trying to help him in whatever way they can. I know for myself, I've been putting off calling any authorities on him. I'm hoping that he might listen to reason. I've seen too many sad situations where doctors just over medicate people they believe to be crazy, and that can cause irrevocable damage. I didn't know Greg before, but I get the feeling that he was a very good hearted character, that must still be there somewhere.
Of course, if at any time, I personally feel threatened by him, or see him attacking someone, I won't hesitate to call the police, as I would do if I saw anyone attacking another...it's a strange situation for sure.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Thu Feb 23, 2006 @ 6:17pm
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he was amber.. he had a very open mind and was very nice.. a decent man he WAS !!!

to death with TERRE.. we want GREG back..

reminds me of Golem in LOTR !!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Thu Feb 23, 2006 @ 6:32pm
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[ www.hrhs.org ]

there ya go earthly or gregg or whoever you are today... get some frikin help~!

Ufot-stuff, u know, stuff...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ replied on Thu Feb 23, 2006 @ 6:46pm
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this is funny

and btw, Mr. Sparkle = Mr. Ufot? heheheh
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 3:53am
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THIS IS GETTING SOMEWHERE FINALLY!!!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 4:12am
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I think mental institutes can just make people more insane sometimes. Like this lady who was at the douglas and who had gained the priviledge to go outside for an hour a day started talking to me and my friend randomly and she said that they would put her in this room wiht two way mirrors fro hours and eventually she would just freak out and start banging the walls and screaming cause she couldn't take it anymore, so then they would say she was violent and a danger to society. I dunno if she was violent but she's crazy and she didn't know it. Cause right before she staretd talking to us we saw her in the bathroom talking to her mom in the mirror.. anyway I believe her about the two-way mirrors and the way it makes people crazy.. cause I would go ballistic.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 6:58am
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Originally posted by MOONDANCER...

I think mental institutes can just make people more insane sometimes.


Yeah..... No.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 8:10am
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Main subdivisions of the human encephalon. The frontal areas include the frontal lobe (its anterior tip is called prefrontal area) and the motor cortex (responsible for the voluntary control of muscle movement) and sensory cortex (which receives the sensory information coming mainly from touch, vibration, pain, proprioception and temperature sensors; there are separate areas for olfaction, taste, vision and audition). Broca's area is a specialized area responsible for the motor expression of speech.




Since sociopathic individuals have marked alterations in their relation to other human beings, it is only natural that we should first seek whether the part of their brains responsible for this has some significant abnormality.

Much of the behavior which makes possible stable and adequate social relations is controlled by the part of the brain called frontal lobe, which is located in the most anterior part of the brain hemispheres. All social primates have highly developed frontal brains, and human beings have the largest one of all. Self-control, planning, judgment, the balance of individual versus social needs, and many other essential functions underlying effective social intercourse are mediated by the frontal structures of the brain (see Dr. Silvia Cardoso's enlightening article on "The External Architecture of the Brain" in Brain & Mind Magazine's first issue, to understand what's the frontal brain).

For a long time now, neuroscientists known that lesions to this part of the brain lead to severe deficits in all these behaviors. The inordinate use of prefrontal lobotomy as a therapeutic tool by surgeons for many mental diseases in the 40s and 50s, provided researchers with enough data to implicate the frontal brain in the genesis of dissocial and antisocial personalities (see my article on the history of psychosurgery in the second issue of Brain & Mind Magazine).




Illustration of trans-orbital leucotomy, a surgical operation which was widely used in the 50s to perform prefrontal lobotomies in many types of mental disease. Developed by American neurosurgeon Walter Freeman, it consisted in inserting a blade through the roof bone of one of the eye orbits using a hammer and local anesthesia. The movement of the blade severed important connections between the frontal areas and the rest of the brain.

Research with animals has shown that the right orbitofrontal cortex is involved in fear conditioning. For instance, when a rat is punished with an electrical shock every time a light blinks in its cage, it develops a fear association between the stimulus and the punishment. Normal humans learn very early in life to avoid antisocial behavior because they are punished for it and because they have the brain circuits to associate fear of punishment (feeling emotion) to behavior suppression. This seems to be a key element in the development of personality. When there is no punishment, or when the person is unable to be conditioned by fear, due to a lesion in the orbitofrontal cortex, for example, or due to lowered neural activity in this area, then it develops an antisocial personality.

We have now a direct way of visualizing brain function, which has lead to a remarkable explosion in our knowledge about the inner workings of the psychopath's brain in the last two to three years:




PET images of the brain of a normal person (left), a murderer with deprived background (middle) and a murderer with non-deprived background (right). Areas in red and yellow show a higher metabolic activity, and in black and blue of lower metabolic activity. The brain of a sociopath (right) has a very low activity in many areas, but which is strikingly absent in the frontal area (upper part of the images). Images by Adrian Raine, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, USA.

Indirect evidence of the role of prefrontal cortex in psychopathic behavior is coming from other experiments as well. In Canada, a team headed by Dominique LaPierre compared 30 psychopaths to 30 non-psychopathic criminals, using tests that evaluate the function of two parts of the prefrontal cortex: the orbitofrontal and the frontal ventromedial areas. The results showed that "the psychopaths were significantly impaired on all the orbitofrontal- ventromedial tasks", but not in the function of other areas of the frontal cortex. The similarities between psychopaths and patients with prefrontal cortex damage surfaced in several areas of the study. "Both the psychopath and the orbitofrontal or ventromedial frontal patient show an exaggerated preoccupation with sexual matters, acting in a promiscuous and impersonal maladaptive way," observed the researchers. "Both are remarkable for their lack of social and ethical judgment. Both neglect long-term consequences of their actions, choosing immediate gratification over careful planning."

Ufot-not wanting 2 be a doctor...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 9:21am
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hey earthy spirit
i know that you know that you need some physical outpour

instead of dwelling this
go on a crazy ass adventure man

roadtrip whatever
get the fuck out of town

why the hell are you still posting on this board?

i know that you know that when you're somewhere unfamiliar you dwell less in your thoughts
and if all of a sudden you're standing there or sitting down waiting for your next ride... at least you know you're moving forward
you're not stuck in that fucken spiral

you know what i mean

easy mate
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 10:10am
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Sam's my idol :)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 10:20am
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wise words, sam. i don't know u that well, but loosing someone you love has got to be one of the toughest moments, its something that can make pretty much anyone crazy.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 10:23am
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

Originally posted by moondancer...

I think mental institutes can just make people more insane sometimes.


Yeah..... No.


You`re assuming competence on the part of the doctors neoform... and while I will admit that a doctor always has his patient`s best interests at heart, the human brain is complicated enough anyone can make a mistake and aggravate the situation. Medical doctor`s fuck up and misdiagnose and make conditions worse occasionally... why can`t mental doctor`s? In those cases... it wouldn`t surprise me if a mental institution could aggravate certain conditions... we just trust a doctor to know his shit well enough to keep that sort of thing to a minimum.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 10:25am
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avoid anti-depressive pills !
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 10:27am
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hey papa galaksy!!! how u doing bro, i miss u 2 mate, long time eh? we should blaze a session sometime soon... u still get dem promo's???

Ufot-never forgetting the spirit of mixed drink
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 10:31am
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waddup bro , sure i'm down
i'll pm ya my phone numba so we can meet up sometime ...maybe even tonightz ...i might go out ..

dem promos ??
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 10:56am
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Originally posted by TRASHANDSUICIDE...

You`re assuming competence on the part of the doctors neoform... and while I will admit that a doctor always has his patient`s best interests at heart, the human brain is complicated enough anyone can make a mistake and aggravate the situation. Medical doctor`s fuck up and misdiagnose and make conditions worse occasionally... why can`t mental doctor`s? In those cases... it wouldn`t surprise me if a mental institution could aggravate certain conditions... we just trust a doctor to know his shit well enough to keep that sort of thing to a minimum.


I can bet you that no one posting in this thread has ever even been to such a hospital and is instead basing everything they say on what they see in the movies.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 11:53am
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I was in mental institution once. They said I was talking to myself too much -I told them it was the mushrooms... they didn't believe me (A-Holes!!) They put me in a straight jacket and asked me all the questions like: What planet are you from? and do you speak english? I yelled at them incoherently for 12-days! Then when the my chance came, I chewed my way out through the brick wall; the insolation was cherry flavored and was scented with lavender. Disgusting!

Dr. Agopsowich has a warrent for my arrest. $25 if you bring me in alive, $5 in any other state.
Waa!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Fri Feb 24, 2006 @ 12:05pm
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

Originally posted by trashandsuicide...

You`re assuming competence on the part of the doctors neoform... and while I will admit that a doctor always has his patient`s best interests at heart, the human brain is complicated enough anyone can make a mistake and aggravate the situation. Medical doctor`s fuck up and misdiagnose and make conditions worse occasionally... why can`t mental doctor`s? In those cases... it wouldn`t surprise me if a mental institution could aggravate certain conditions... we just trust a doctor to know his shit well enough to keep that sort of thing to a minimum.


I can bet you that no one posting in this thread has ever even been to such a hospital and is instead basing everything they say on what they see in the movies.


Speaking as someone who has.. for the most part its just like a normal hospital but with more psychologists and psychiatrists... you need to be pretty fucked up for them to even consider any of the scary-arkham-asylum-style alternative therapies... I`d say a good 80-90% of the patients basically lead normal hospital lives... probably more actually...
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