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Why Israel Is A Dumb Country
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Sun 15 Jun, 2003 @ 3:44pm
nothingnopenope
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yeah I agree these threads are just terrible
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc a répondu le Sun 15 Jun, 2003 @ 7:33pm
mdc
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i know... but its so fun
and christianity is THE religion...

(and thats a joke... as was my previous post)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Sun 15 Jun, 2003 @ 9:24pm
nothingnopenope
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yeah.. I mean

Nobody ever died because of christianity, right?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc a répondu le Sun 15 Jun, 2003 @ 11:04pm
mdc
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EXACTLY!!!!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX a répondu le Mon 16 Jun, 2003 @ 11:01am
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Tue 17 Jun, 2003 @ 6:04pm
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so much pain and suffering and for what.
FOR WHAT?

for a strip of earth the sizi of the state of vermont.

The violence will only end when both sides can see past the differences that their fathers and grandfathers looked so hard to find.

fuck sharon
fuck arafat

we can change things and the first step to doing that is ending the hate.

Violence cannot solve anything in this struggle the sooner we admit that the sooner we can begin to find a sollution.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX a répondu le Tue 17 Jun, 2003 @ 8:55pm
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you wont end the hate when one group is oppressed and the other one is not.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» shpud a répondu le Wed 18 Jun, 2003 @ 12:07am
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jihad = holy war or a war for god.

whatever kind of war it is...war is stupid no one should kill anyone no matter what religion they are. but when one person start fighting with someone the other needs to defend themselves but they always manage to make the innocent look bad, i love how our world works...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Wed 18 Jun, 2003 @ 12:24am
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sorry islam and judism are not my forté...but next semester im taking intro to islam...shoud be interesting.

but i looked this up...here is the definitions of jihad...

There is a misunderstanding of the word "Jihaad" amongst many of the Muslims today, who think it to mean any sort of struggle in the path of Allah, most commonly translated as "striving". This struggle (or striving) for them ranges from waking up in the morning for Fajr to giving Khutbahs and lectures on Islaam in Universities and other institutes. Whereas "Jihaad" is a shara’ee term which implies al-Qitaal (physical fight), even though linguistically it may mean Jihaad with the parents, like the statement of the Prophet "Fa Feehima Fajaahid" meaning "strive in them (your parents)" or "Thumma Jahadaha fa qad wajab al-Ghusl" meaning "…then he strove on her, Ghusl becomes waajib".

Just like the word "Salaah" which linguistically means D’ua as in the saying of Allah, "Sali ‘Alaihim" (at-Tawbah) meaning "…pray (or make du’a) for them…" but technically it means actions and statements from Takbeer to Tasleem. Similarly the Zakah, Sawm, Hajj and rest of these terms have their own linguistic meanings as well as legal meanings and it is not permissible for anyone to act upon the linguistic meaning while ignoring the legal shara’ee meaning. So a person cannot have performed Zakah (purification) by taking a shower each morning, rather Zakah in sharee'ah is performed by giving 2.5% of the annual savings to charity as an obligation. Similarly, one cannot perform Jihad by giving lectures, feeding the family or serving the parents, rather Jihad can only be performed in the field of al-Qitaal (lit. fighting), as the sharee'ah dictates.

Therefore when the word Jihaad is used in the Qur'an and the Sunnah, in a general sense then it means Qitaal, and when it is mentioned in its linguistic sense (as in to strive with your parents and family etc.) then that is regarded to be Muqayyid (restricted) by the rules of Usoolul-Fiqh.

The following text is the translation of a section from the work of the Mujaahid Sheikh of this century ash-Sheikh ash-Shaheed ‘Abdullah ‘Azzam - may Allah have Mercy upon him - who was referred to as the "reviver of Jihad of this century" by the TIMES magazine. In this piece he explains the word "Jihaad" as an Arabic word and a Shara’ee term according to the classical scholars of the four Madhaahib.

Unfortunately, whenever Allah guides the Muslim youth to get up and fulfil the obligation and the Sunnah of Qitaal in the way of Allah, we find some people amongst the Muslims hindering the youth away from the legal Jihaad to linguistic Jihaad, which is what lead me to translate this piece of work, so that it may be beneficial to the Muslims in general and a final blow to the obstacles in the path of the youths seeking martyrdom in the way of Allah.

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In the Name of Allah, The Most Merciful, The Dispenser of Mercy.

Al-Jihaad Linguistically and legally Al-Jihad

Linguistically:

It is taken from Juhud – Yajhad – Jahdan. So initially al-Juhud is with Dhamm or Fath which is al-was’ (strength) or at-Taaqah (power), and it is said: al-Juhud (with Dham) is al-was’ (strength) or at-Taaqah (power), and al-Jahad (with Fath) is al-Mushaqqah (hardship). Al-Jahd (with Fath) is used as al-Ghaayah (i.e. taking to limits):

"They swore by Allah their strongest (Jahda) oaths (i.e. took it to limits)" 5:53

Which means to complete and to end their promise. So al-Juhud and al-Jihaad linguistically is to sacrifice to ones utmost according to a person’s ability with strength, in order to obtain the beloved or to avert the hated / see Lisaan-ul-‘Arab and al-Qaamoos al-Muheet.

Al-Jihad legally in Shar’iah:

The four Fuqaha’ have agreed that al-Jihaad is al-Qitaal (fight) and to help therein (i.e. in Qitaal). To you is the definition of the four jurists:

1. Al-Hanafiyah: It has come in Fath al-Qadeer by Ibn Humaam 5/187: "al-Jihaad: calling the kuffaar to the religion of truth and to fight them if they do not accept". al-Kaasaani said in al-Badaa’i’, 9/4299 "To sacrifice ones strength and energy in Fighting in the way of Allah ‘Azza wa-Jal with ones life, property and the tongue and whatever besides".

2. Al-Maalikiyah: For a Muslim to fight against a kaafir who is not under oath, to raise the word of Allah, or if he (kaafir) is in his (Muslim’s) presence (in order to attack him), or upon his (kaafir) entering his (Muslim’s) land. (Haashiya al-‘Adawi/as-Sa’eedi 2/2 and ash-Sharh as-Sagheer/Aqrab al-Masaalik by ad-Dardeer 2/267)

3. Ash-Shaafi’iyah: Al-Baajawari said, "al-Jihaad means: al-Qitaal (fighting) in the way of Allah", al-Baajawari / Ibnul-Qaasim 2/261. Ibn Hajr said in al-Fath 6/2, "…and legally (it means) sacrificial striving in fighting the kuffaar"

4. Al-Hanbaliyah: "To Fight the kuffaar" see Mataalib Uliyan-Nahi 2/497. "al-Jihaad is al-Qitaal (fighting) and to sacrifice all strength in it to raise the Word of Allah", see ‘Umdatul-Fiqh p.166, and Muntahal-Iraadaat 1/302.

The Conclusive Statement: Indeed whenever the word "Jihaad" is spoken then verily it means al-Qitaal (fighting), and the phrase "Fee Sabeelillah" (in the way of Allah) is spoken then surely it means al-Jihaad. Ibn Rushd said in his Muqadamaat 1/369: "…and Jihaad of the Sword: to fight the Mushrikeen for the Deen. So whoever tires himself for the sake of Allah, he strove in the way of Allah. Except that when Jihaad Feesabeelillah is spoken, then it cannot be applied (to everything) in general except striving against the kuffaar with the sword until they enter Islam, or pay the Jizya with willing submission and they are under humiliation". Ibn Hajr said in Fath al-Baari 6/29: "…and by the phrase Feesabeelillah, Jihaad is implied"

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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Purple_Lee a répondu le Wed 18 Jun, 2003 @ 12:25am
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both sides havre had way too much time to bake in the sun

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