Music Prod On A Low Budget
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Fri 4 May, 2012 @ 4:26pm |
 Coolness: 166520 | Last year or so when my 'puter fucked up, I pulled out and plugged in the ol' circa '94 Pentium 1 and opened FL2 ... holy shit I can't believe I used to make tunes with that! Before that I made music with just Rebirth, and then that with a Fostex 8 track + guitar & my dad's drums (still have the cassette recordings) ... the cool ideas were there! But as Sour says, the production value was ... not great :p
Now, even after investing in hardware, I need to break my brain -- tweaking and figuring out all the math and science behind producing, and still trying to balance creativity/originality/good-ideas with all that added technical shit. Not always fun, but damn, when you make a sound that sounds like a ton-of-bricks, you're mighty pleased! ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx a répondu le Sun 20 May, 2012 @ 3:10am |
 Coolness: 48665 | Old laptop + Cracked Cubase + 30$ Headphones =
[ soundcloud.com ] You don't need a huge budget or equipment to make music. You just need to put the time and dedication ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Tue 22 May, 2012 @ 5:42pm |
 Coolness: 91365 | Originally Posted By CJBSEXX
Old laptop + Cracked Cubase + 30$ Headphones = [ soundcloud.com ] You don't need a huge budget or equipment to make music. You just need to put the time and dedication ;) I'm not much into psy but you got some decent stuff there, cjbsexx |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 22 May, 2012 @ 6:08pm |
 Coolness: 685565 | yeah, that sounds fucking good! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» HighdroXy a répondu le Thu 24 May, 2012 @ 6:20am |
 Coolness: 52510 | those sounds sound like samples.... do you make ur own sound from Vst's ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx a répondu le Sun 10 Jun, 2012 @ 1:01pm |
| Coolness: 48665 | Ben si tu parles des échantillons de voix, bruits d'avion et cie, c'est évident que c'est des samples. Mais les mélodies/bass etc sont fait maison.
BOnne chance et j'ai hâte de voir ce que tu produiras ! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Virtual_Light a répondu le Wed 13 Jun, 2012 @ 10:55am |
 Coolness: 94740 | Honestly .. A home studio for electronic music is quite simple these days. I sold all my synths as they no longer served a function. So count yourself lucky we have bad ass plugins which can be acquired for free to take their place. However, I wouldn't sacrifice quality on the basics. Good computer. Good monitors. (Adams, DyneAudio, Genelec). Decent sound card. For the most part a big fancy expensive sound card isn't that important unless you are recording external instruments. (which with the lack of hardware synths .. I don't foresee you doing much recording) So a simple 24bit card USB whatever would do fine. Monitors and Computer.... I wouldn't waste my time, energy and money on crap thought. You will just find yourself investing more money in the end. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sun 17 Jun, 2012 @ 9:05pm |
| Coolness: 91365 | Originally Posted By VIRTUAL_LIGHT
Honestly .. A home studio for electronic music is quite simple these days. I sold all my synths as they no longer served a function. So count yourself lucky we have bad ass plugins which can be acquired for free to take their place. However, I wouldn't sacrifice quality on the basics. Good computer. Good monitors. (Adams, DyneAudio, Genelec). Decent sound card. For the most part a big fancy expensive sound card isn't that important unless you are recording external instruments. (which with the lack of hardware synths .. I don't foresee you doing much recording) So a simple 24bit card USB whatever would do fine. Monitors and Computer.... I wouldn't waste my time, energy and money on crap thought. You will just find yourself investing more money in the end. I don't know where to start with this. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Thu 5 Jul, 2012 @ 4:19am |
 Coolness: 219945 | Originally Posted By VIRTUAL_LIGHT
For the most part a big fancy expensive sound card isn't that important unless you are recording external instruments. I would agree (certainly at least to get started with). A second hand p4 with winxp stripped down will also do! (no porn, no unnecessary programs/drivers/etc) Even with mediocre speakers/headphones, as long as you're used to the sound they produce, you can do a decent job. Good to compare the quality of your work with existing released tracks to see what you're doing right/wrong and adjust your mix accordingly. Also little things in how you set up your workstation will help. Like centering your desk/speakers, having equal gaps from each speaker to each side wall. Having the speakers at your ear level. Having them pointing directly at your head, and having the gap between them, the same as the gap to your head... Having them on something solid, other than directly on your desk should also help... blah blah blah 200$ can get you somewhere, but you'll really have to get used to your setup, and deal with what you got. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx a répondu le Fri 6 Jul, 2012 @ 9:12pm |
| Coolness: 48665 | One thing I don't agree with, is that you can replace Hard synths with VSTs.
You can hear in a second the difference between a real thick MOOG Saw Wave and a virtual WaveForm from a VST. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sat 7 Jul, 2012 @ 1:45pm |
| Coolness: 91365 | Originally Posted By CJBSEXX
One thing I don't agree with, is that you can replace Hard synths with VSTs. You can hear in a second the difference between a real thick MOOG Saw Wave and a virtual WaveForm from a VST. True. Also the "I don't need a good soundcard since i don't caption" is completely flawed. You still need good DAC for your playback and a decent latency time for your automations. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali a répondu le Sun 8 Jul, 2012 @ 3:59am |
 Coolness: 140660 | meh.... i still did a boatload of stuff right off the mbp sound card... latency was bareable |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Mon 9 Jul, 2012 @ 9:45am |
 Coolness: 201200 | Originally Posted By OMNI
Anybody here was producing music 10 years ago? What were you working with? Is there any particuliar reason why that wouldn't work today? Doesn't saying that you need a recent computer setup invalidates all music that was produced years ago on older stuff? You'd probably be surprised to learn that some of the best music ever made was produced on ultra-ghetto equipment. By the way, I just recently bought a new laptop to replace my previous one, which I had bought in 2005. I did all my music on it since then and did all my live shows with it without any problems. The equivalent of that computer can probably be bought today for about 100$. Having limits or constraints, I find, can actually drive creativity. You learn to use what you have to its fullest and can creatively overcome technical limitations. hmm I was doing music 15 years ago... On a 486/66 with fastracker 2. 10 years ago, athlon 1800 w/ 512mb ram. Honestly, I haven't been limited by computer speed since the core2duo imac I bought in 2007, I've bought 2 computers since then and it was for video editing, not music. Seriously, that's the low water mark I'd set for a music making computer, a core2duo. You can make crazy complex tracks on one if you know what you are doing. I never had problems running multiple convolution reverb plugins on a core2duo. If you decide to go the apple route, avoid any powerpc ones though.. they actually are VERY SLOW and completely obsolete. If you are strapped for cash a used pc tower would be the best option, since they can be upgraded very cheaply. There are lots of very cheap or free programs to make music.. trackers are a good option. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Tue 10 Jul, 2012 @ 10:07pm |
| Coolness: 91365 | Originally Posted By RAWALI
meh.... i still did a boatload of stuff right off the mbp sound card... latency was bareable ASIO or Core Audio? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali a répondu le Wed 11 Jul, 2012 @ 12:45pm |
| Coolness: 140660 | you cant make music unless you buy the waves mercury bundle |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ZimO a répondu le Thu 12 Jul, 2012 @ 2:32am |
 Coolness: 46745 | Originally Posted By CJBSEXX
One thing I don't agree with, is that you can replace Hard synths with VSTs. You can hear in a second the difference between a real thick MOOG Saw Wave and a virtual WaveForm from a VST. yes but as soon as you record your hardware back into a computer it becomes digital and you lose all this great quality, we tried recording a virus and it sounded like ass once in the pc. Maybe if you have a mega studio you can record properly, but that will cost a fortune. I know a lot of people who have tons of hardware (like the studio in my pic) and they are plugged but rarely used (collecting dust). Not that hardware isn't nice & fun to play with though. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Omni a répondu le Thu 12 Jul, 2012 @ 1:15pm |
 Coolness: 87550 | Originally Posted By ZIMO
yes but as soon as you record your hardware back into a computer it becomes digital and you lose all this great quality, we tried recording a virus and it sounded like ass once in the pc. Maybe if you have a mega studio you can record properly, but that will cost a fortune. I know a lot of people who have tons of hardware (like the studio in my pic) and they are plugged but rarely used (collecting dust). Not that hardware isn't nice & fun to play with though. The Virus is a virtual analog, not a real analog, so the sounds are already made digitally to start with. Of course, if you have one of the older Virus synths, then that digital signal is converted to analog through the synth's own DA converter, then the signal is converted back to digital through your sound card's DA converters, which means that your signal is converted twice to end up digital again, which it was already in the first place! So yeah, you might lose quality there, especially if your soundcard isn't up to par. You'll probably get a much better sound using a Virus TI which connects directly to your computer through USB and sends a digital signal directly to your DAW's tracks, whithout converting to analog. So your signal remains intact and should sound just as good. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Fri 13 Jul, 2012 @ 6:25pm |
| Coolness: 91365 | Originally Posted By OMNI
The Virus is a virtual analog, not a real analog, so the sounds are already made digitally to start with. Of course, if you have one of the older Virus synths, then that digital signal is converted to analog through the synth's own DA converter, then the signal is converted back to digital through your sound card's DA converters, which means that your signal is converted twice to end up digital again, which it was already in the first place! So yeah, you might lose quality there, especially if your soundcard isn't up to par. You'll probably get a much better sound using a Virus TI which connects directly to your computer through USB and sends a digital signal directly to your DAW's tracks, whithout converting to analog. So your signal remains intact and should sound just as good. although the DAC's coloration of the Virus is very fun (if you have decent DACs on your DAW's input as well) i wouldn't lose it personally. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Omni a répondu le Mon 16 Jul, 2012 @ 1:12am |
| Coolness: 87550 | Originally Posted By SOURULTRAFAST
although the DAC's coloration of the Virus is very fun (if you have decent DACs on your DAW's input as well) i wouldn't lose it personally. Yeah I know some people who prefer the analog output as well, but I'm one of those who prefer the convenience of the USB output and I like the idea of not converting my signal twice just to get it in there. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ZimO a répondu le Mon 16 Jul, 2012 @ 3:00pm |
| Coolness: 46745 | @ Omni ;)
But also what it boils down to is that to get one great sound you need layering, automations, chains of fx, etc.. i'm sure you're down with that :D haha! |
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