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Warning: Dox Being Sold As Lsd In Toronto
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA a répondu le Fri 14 Jan, 2011 @ 1:48am
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Originally Posted By MOLOCH

I read somewhere that chem drugs kinda bleed thru your pores.
And that petting a cat while high can deposit some of teh drugs on their fur
and then they lick it and get kinda high too.

urban legends, if you use your rationnal mind two seconds it's easy to figure this one out...
the quantity of lsd is about 100 micrograms, for a good acid.
it gets soooo dissolved in a 100 pounds body, it could not bleed through your pores in a sufficient quantity to infect someone else by your hands only, especially an animal.

contact high is something else that people speak of. it just means that you can pick on the vibes of the person. one of my friends is really sensitive to that, he always knows when someone high on acid approaches, it's freaky and cool.
and animals are especially sensitive to our vibrations, that's how they get contact high...
or something like that. i'm not sure... it seems pretty metaphysical. :P
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Fri 14 Jan, 2011 @ 8:29am
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Originally Posted By YOSHIN

urban legends, if you use your rationnal mind two seconds it's easy to figure this one out...
the quantity of lsd is about 100 micrograms, for a good acid.
it gets soooo dissolved in a 100 pounds body, it could not bleed through your pores in a sufficient quantity to infect someone else by your hands only, especially an animal.

contact high is something else that people speak of. it just means that you can pick on the vibes of the person. one of my friends is really sensitive to that, he always knows when someone high on acid approaches, it's freaky and cool.
and animals are especially sensitive to our vibrations, that's how they get contact high...
or something like that. i'm not sure... it seems pretty metaphysical. :P


I actually spoke with a vet about this.
And the theory actually makes sense to her.

So don't be offended, but I'll disregard your post.
Thanks for playing.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA a répondu le Fri 14 Jan, 2011 @ 11:17am
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yes, like vets know stuff about lsd......... come on. most people at the drugstore don't know anything about it, so i suppose vets don't either. they don't teach that in their classes.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf a répondu le Fri 14 Jan, 2011 @ 11:22am
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nobody taught me anything in class about LSD

and i know about it

saying that vet don't know about drugs is ridiculous. They are humans too, and some kind of doctors as well, so yeah

Personnally i find it hard to believe that touching my cat while high would affect him in any way, except that he will feel that i am not entirely the same, just because animals understand other living by our behavior/mood

but anything can be possible

i just think that saying a vet is a vet so he doesn't know shit about drugs is ridiculous haha :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA a répondu le Fri 14 Jan, 2011 @ 11:27am
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ok ok some vets know...
but i would not take any/all vets as authority on lsd.
as they don't know more than the average human
sorry i was not clear enough......
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Fri 14 Jan, 2011 @ 6:29pm
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Originally Posted By YOSHIN

yes, like vets know stuff about lsd......... come on. most people at the drugstore don't know anything about it, so i suppose vets don't either. they don't teach that in their classes.


Again, no diss intended,
But I'd take a Vet's outlook about pharmacolgy over yours any time.
Not like you studied past grade 11 or something.
Srsly.

Originally Posted By Daf
i just think that saying a vet is a vet so he doesn't know shit about drugs is ridiculous haha :)


To say the least.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» perception a répondu le Sat 15 Jan, 2011 @ 2:45pm
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I wouldn't take the word of a user over the word of for example a biochemist :p

Just because you read what other people think (e.g., wikipedia) and use drugs doesn't mean you understand or are even reading accurate information.

Nothing short from studying a chemical reaction from a cell physiology perspective could answer this question.

Vet's take several board course, like MDs, on biochemistry. They really only know what they specialize in, although they sure could research the topic effectively.

I think perhaps asking a pharmacist to look into it would be the best, easiest, bet. They specialize in drug uptake. You can trust the advice of a pharmacist over that of an MD when it comes to drugs (drugs in the broad sense, not specifically illicit).

I don't have the "courage" to ask, if any of you do, please send on over the info :p I don't have the background (yet) to understand the research papers being published in this field.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psykotropik a répondu le Sat 15 Jan, 2011 @ 4:37pm
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The "LSD soaking through skin" story is one of the oldest around. Apparently it's possible - that's how Dr. Albert Hoffmann says he was first exposed to the chemical - but due to the minute quantities of LSD found in blotters, I think that it would be extremely unlikely that an active dose would be transferred through someone's skin accidentally... and there's no way that you're unintentionally going to get your cat high by petting it after handing acid.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» perception a répondu le Sat 15 Jan, 2011 @ 5:52pm
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the fact that there is a small and probably impure dose of LSD on a blotters makes sense...

but touching LSD and getting high is not the same as being high and touching someone else who then gets high...

could you get drunk from bathing in alcohol ;)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sat 15 Jan, 2011 @ 6:08pm
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Originally Posted By PERCEPTION

could you get drunk from bathing in alcohol ;)


Depends - if some goes into your ass and/or vagina (obviously 2nd one only applicable to women) then it could get absorbed by the mucous membrane and get you drunk the same way hooping a pill or snorting alcohol works..

Directly through the skin, probably not, unless it was some ridiculously high percentage alcohol and it was heated up to open your pores.. you MIGHT absorb enough to get drunk.. but that's a big MIGHT!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AliceInAcidLand a répondu le Sun 16 Jan, 2011 @ 11:40pm
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I think cats are just way more telepathic and can pick up on and tap into LSD trips in humans. I've chilled with my cat many times on acid. I haven't necessarily petted him a lot during a trip (because he sheds A LOT and his tiny orange hairs cover everything) and I've noticed that he observes me a lot more, and his surroundings as well. It's really interesting to see how animals react to our vibrations and energies while on psychedelics..
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA a répondu le Mon 17 Jan, 2011 @ 2:55am
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first, yes i studied past grade 11. just not in a subject that relates to science (i've taken litterature and arts)... but also i have spent a year researching about LSD and other psychedelics, reading as many things as i could find about it.

lsd can get into your skin, but it does not go OUT of your skin through sweat in sufficient quantities to get someone or an animal high. i think even the chemical structure of LSD changes as it gets absorbed by your body, and it gets metabolized in that way...

LSD is a really fragile molecule, it gets destroyed easily by certain things that you find in tap water for example, or by light... so i'd assume there is something that breaks it down into your body, we make some pretty powerful cheminals... it's the lsd that somehow gets through the blood brain barrier because it looks like a serotonin molecule, that's what it does, that's how you get high... and again i will say, it's in MICROGRAMS. that's so small.
Mise À Jour » AYkiN0XiA a écrit sur Mon 17 Jan, 2011 @ 3:01am
at the loft we had two baby cats and they'd come out in the morning when we made parties, and they looked so high... it was cute :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» perception a répondu le Mon 17 Jan, 2011 @ 11:09am
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I also think cats are sensitive to how you are feeling. They always make sure to be part of important events that are happening to me when I am at home! They seem to be very in tune with their surroundings and channel energy effectively. Contact high? (in the sense of the term, not literal touching, as Yoshin explain earlier)

I wasn't aiming at you Yoshin, it was a general statement that there is a lot of misinformation on the internet and in documentaries. Also a general statement towards the fact that even in research articles, the authors interpret the results of the research in a way they see fit, they assimilate the information in a way that fits with their understanding. It makes the consumerism of information difficult. As usual, I am being too hard on us, and stating limitations that are impossible to circumvent.

I would agree that you can absorb certain substances through you skin, whether it will have an effect is another story (it would depends on e.g., the concentration and metabolism of the chemical). And I would agree that you probably cannot leak a substance through your skin into the exterior environment, like you said, the body would break down and eliminate most of what was ingested and a small quantity would make it pass the BBB. What makes me curious is whether a substantial amount would find its way into skin cells and in what form.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA a répondu le Mon 17 Jan, 2011 @ 2:16pm
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when you speak of micrograms in a whole body, it is is never a substancial amount........
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