Help Needed Fixing A Stove!
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 3:09am |
 Coolness: 219970 | So last week, we were baking fish inside the oven, and it was giving off an irregular amount of smoke.
We didn't think too much of it at the time... The next day I tried making breakfast, and noticed the burners weren't turning on at all, and then noticed the same for the oven. After taking off the back paneling to investigate, I finally noticed that one of the cords, that comes in from the power cord that connects to the wall, had completely burned, and detached... (the red wire) 
So i cut off the burnt part of the wire, placed it on the already screwed in part, and taped it up. Sure enough, the 4 burners and oven became functional again, but the tape was showing a bright blue electrical current that seemed like it was starting to burn the tape, so I had to stop it and unplug the stove from the outlet again. If anyone has any knowledge of these kinds of things, or electricity in general, that could help a brother out, it would be much appreciated! thanks |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ravedave a répondu le Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 7:24am |
 Coolness: 131690 | if you just want to put the wire back properly then
turn off breaker/unplug stove unscrew wire, throw away little burnt metal piece put screw back in, twist the red wire around it, tighten screw, plug back in but probably there's another reason why it actually burned out! if u ever need anything for a stove there's a store called Mapco Inc. (5244 st laurent) they carry pieces but if your digital panel ever dies, im just letting you know it costs almost as much to fix it as to buy a new stove like that... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 9:06am |
 Coolness: 145200 | dave be careful...
not to sound corny but electricity is no joke... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 11:49am |
| Coolness: 219970 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
dave be careful... not to sound corny but electricity is no joke... no shit! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 11:53am |
 Coolness: 226275 | Like Davey said touigh, There's probably a reason the wire burnt ut in the first place.
Maybe some cooking grease leaked into the bulkheads ans shorted stuff on the inside. If I wew in your position, I would basically open up the top cover and check if any connections are beeing shorted my debris/cooking gunk. And also check where the over elements are hooked up. If you're gonna do this, follow guideline, turn off breaker, disconnect unit from wall, wait about 10-15 minutes for power in the capacitors to dissipate to be on the safe side. make shure all is clean, Reattach the red cable proper (it was making an ark cuz its not secured. a Franck connection will stop the arcing. Mise À Jour » MolocH a écrit sur Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 1:21pm That, and it just occured to me, changes the fuses in your over if there's some.
These things don't last for ever. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 7:55pm |
| Coolness: 219970 | I opened the whole back of the stove... not one fuse to be found.
Someone mentioned that there may not be any in it, and that there was some internal breaker thing instead... (reset switch on top of the panel beside a power outlet) also there wouldn't be any oil or crap leaking in from the burners, cuz it's one of those smooth ceramic top stoves... only sludge that could possibly leak anywhere would be from the oven i guess. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Mon 3 Jan, 2011 @ 9:22pm |
| Coolness: 226275 | In my sense, the connectors of the oven elements is usually just two ili' screws.
Other than that, g'luck :) And mind you, I'ze NoT a pro either. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Tue 4 Jan, 2011 @ 5:39pm |
 Coolness: 166545 | that's what the back of an oven looks like? o_O damn! good luck :p |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Wed 5 Jan, 2011 @ 2:44am |
 Coolness: 91390 | Originally Posted By DJ_DIALECT
I opened the whole back of the stove... not one fuse to be found. Someone mentioned that there may not be any in it, and that there was some internal breaker thing instead... (reset switch on top of the panel beside a power outlet) also there wouldn't be any oil or crap leaking in from the burners, cuz it's one of those smooth ceramic top stoves... only sludge that could possibly leak anywhere would be from the oven i guess. Have you checked the wall breakers? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Wed 5 Jan, 2011 @ 3:19am |
 Coolness: 131595 | dont play there , you want me to fix this just email me
there is a big difference between category 5 electronics and category 4 or 3 electricity this is a 30 amp apparatus working on 220v witch not only can be fatal but in case of a failiure can escalate to more damage that you would have imagined. its not ran off a battery too , its AC : way more implications related to hasards . i am certified for both (cat 3 and 4) , know all security implication in doing such but you put the fire to your block and they trace that to your post here and youll be paying up your ass forever. shure you could just twist the ends together , but what caused this needs to be investigated. ISNT THIS SUPPOSEDTO BE RAVE DOT CA , NOT FUCKING FIX YER LIFE UP LOL . inb4 cooking k |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Wed 5 Jan, 2011 @ 9:30pm |
| Coolness: 219970 | Originally Posted By SOURULTRAFAST
Have you checked the wall breakers? 
yea I have checked them actually (as you would notice from the other pics i posted on FB haha) and cutter, check your pm's man. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Fri 7 Jan, 2011 @ 9:32pm |
| Coolness: 131595 | the breaker wouldnt cause that , thats a fault , cause by overhead of one element (stove on for too long) , one of the elements (broil included) melted and shorted or simply bented and shorted (if you look at one its actually an outer tube with ceramic inside to protect an other wire if they touch each others you short it) , or one of the wire dangled out of protection , dried or someshit and touched the body.
my question is more , did the breaker ever jumped ? and did you look at the breaker INSIDE your stove , chance your last element has a bulb type fuse that blew. btw your breaker box should have the cover bolted on , electricial usually complains for this as nobody are usually allowed to remove the 4-6-8 screws that expose the wires but them. i dont care , just for your safety as i almost fell my arm in the bottom plate of a breaker box once , if i would have happen to actually have my hand inside and touch the metal i would have a blown in two hand and i could have died too, possible ear loss too. all this damage would have been felt for days if not eons. send me where your at and well see if i can this week or not |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Fri 7 Jan, 2011 @ 10:18pm |
| Coolness: 226275 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
the breaker wouldnt cause that , thats a fault , cause by overhead of one element (stove on for too long) , one of the elements (broil included) melted and shorted or simply bented and shorted (if you look at one its actually an outer tube with ceramic inside to protect an other wire if they touch each others you short it) , or one of the wire dangled out of protection , dried or someshit and touched the body. my question is more , did the breaker ever jumped ? and did you look at the breaker INSIDE your stove , chance your last element has a bulb type fuse that blew. btw your breaker box should have the cover bolted on , electricial usually complains for this as nobody are usually allowed to remove the 4-6-8 screws that expose the wires but them. i dont care , just for your safety as i almost fell my arm in the bottom plate of a breaker box once , if i would have happen to actually have my hand inside and touch the metal i would have a blown in two hand and i could have died too, possible ear loss too. all this damage would have been felt for days if not eons. send me where your at and well see if i can this week or not @Dave: See, I told you the dude was your man. Neko delivers. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2011 @ 1:09am |
| Coolness: 219970 | Cool.
Yea I only opened the breaker box up to take pics, to show a friend what it looked like inside, since he was convinced it had to do with a blown fuse in there. as for the stove side of things, like i said, when the wire is connected, everything seems to be working fine (4 burners + oven) so I don't think anything blew. I don't think we had anything on too long, or too high... the fish was baking @ 450, for 20 minutes or so... nothing out of the ordinary. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2011 @ 9:39am |
| Coolness: 226275 | Originally Posted By DJ_DIALECT
Cool. Yea I only opened the breaker box up to take pics, to show a friend what it looked like inside, since he was convinced it had to do with a blown fuse in there. as for the stove side of things, like i said, when the wire is connected, everything seems to be working fine (4 burners + oven) so I don't think anything blew. I don't think we had anything on too long, or too high... the fish was baking @ 450, for 20 minutes or so... nothing out of the ordinary. Then I guess your problem is solved, provided you redid the wire connection proper. But still, stay vigilant. Would not wanna hear from you guy'ze on the 6 O'clock news. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Mon 17 Jan, 2011 @ 3:42am |
| Coolness: 131595 | dialect . i think your friend meant the breakerbox section of your stove , not the house ;D well unless he wanted to make shure you shut off the right breaker by confirming with wire size so you just wouldnt kill the dryer by mistake and not the stove you where heading in playing into.
with i will credit him for that safety concern he managed to take care with you so you wouldnt be baked the wrong way. (the breakers of an oven, usually the old ones , have them on top or below the control in that extruded part of the oven with all the knobs and all.) idk about the newerones as i didnt even bother looking at the newstove we got here that ressembles to yours (enclosed inside elements). but as csa dictates it should have a safety mesure OTHER than the house's breaker box as they can fail , shorted even when off somtimes ,esp when they are old.) so if all oven elements works my guess is that it has an autoclean , and autoclean is like 4 broils at max for like half an hour. dunno if yours has an automatic shutoff / timer for it as well but i remember my ex's didnt and i forgot it on for like 8-10 hours, the whole house was getting hot but luckily the oven looked like it handled it (thou i wouldnt guarantee it would have been the same after half a day) . but , what i was getting at , is that could have been the cause of what made the power input burn like that. did you change the stove element before ? was it ever serviced for an other element or control etc.. ? do you use autoclean ? and if so how long ? either ways i just make your taped and i ,guess, twisted wires , oughta be screwed under the bolt and NOT JUST TWISTED AROUND THE OLD METAL CONNECTOR THAT BURNED AWAY FROM THE WHOLE WIRE. THIS IS IMPORTANT AS THIS WIRE CAN HEAT UP TO 100-200deg before some breaker kicks in. if that happens you need it safen , fix and properly isolated from metal with some firesafe material. till we meet or tell me it fix TAKE GOOD CARE of you no mather how much i tell you not to go there , at worse just make shure you got the breaker out two time. Mise À Jour » cutterhead a écrit sur Mon 17 Jan, 2011 @ 6:03am errata - actually you shouldn just flick the breaker when servicing , you need the machine completely disconnected unless you are conveying test after dismentlement by properly setting things so they dont short etc.. Mise À Jour » cutterhead a écrit sur Mon 17 Jan, 2011 @ 6:03am errata - actually you shouldn just flick the breaker when servicing , you need the machine completely disconnected unless you are conveying test after dismentlement by properly setting things so they dont short etc.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly a répondu le Fri 21 Jan, 2011 @ 1:47am |
 Coolness: 76710 | ^- This guy's a good tech. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB a répondu le Fri 21 Jan, 2011 @ 2:00am |
 Coolness: 103335 | haha now ur broke and don't have a working stove! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Fri 21 Jan, 2011 @ 8:38am |
| Coolness: 226275 | Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL
^- This guy's a good tech. qft. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Fri 21 Jan, 2011 @ 12:27pm |
 Coolness: 129720 | Too funny, my stove's stopped working as well. Same model and wiring as Dialects, every else works, but not the stove
I reakon its a conspiracy! |
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