All Pot 'Compassion Centres' In Montreal Shut Down...
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Sun 6 Jun, 2010 @ 3:14pm |
 Coolness: 145185 | you can be a compassion club or you can be a bodega, you can't be both... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 a répondu le Sun 6 Jun, 2010 @ 5:57pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» LeChat a répondu le Sun 6 Jun, 2010 @ 6:13pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Mon 7 Jun, 2010 @ 12:46pm |
 Coolness: 2603970 | MARIJUANA ARRESTS HELP THE MOB - SENATOR
MONTREAL - Police have done the Mob and street gangs a favour by cracking down on cannabis clubs, say pot decriminalization advocates. They warn that people will now be buying their stuff from criminal networks instead of tax-paying businesses. Thirty-five people were arrested in raids on Quebec's so-called "compassion clubs-" storefront outlets operating in plain view - while 90 kilograms of cannabis were also seized Thursday. Those clubs in Montreal and Quebec City offered a wide selection of marijuana for about $10 a gram to customers who claimed a medical condition and provided a doctor's note. Police argue that the clubs were selling to healthy people and essentially were drug-trafficking operations. A police spokesman says those arrested were all released after promising to appear in court on June 23. Sen. Pierre Claude Nolin says users of medicinal marijuana are now forced to find it elsewhere, and the vast majority will wind up getting it from criminal gangs. After making the arrests, police themselves declared that the clubs had no connection to criminal gangs. "It's the most disastrous consequence of the whole operation," Nolin said in an interview. "The vast majority will have to look at the black market ... and the substance on the black market is not exactly the quality substance that are received in the clubs. "In the clubs, they are trying to have access to organic cannabis, which is not the case with the black market." He says research suggests there are roughly one million Canadians who say they smoke cannabis for medical purposes, while less than 5,000 such permits have been issued by Health Canada. That means, he says, the vast majority will have to find their supply elsewhere. An official for the federal Justice Department said there would be no comment on the cases. All questions were referred to Health Canada. The Health Canada website says that, as of June 2009, 4,029 people had authorization to possess dried marijuana for medical purposes and 2,360 were allowed to cultivate or produce it. A pie chart indicates the largest number of permits - 1,631 - were issued in Ontario, followed by 1,008 in British Columbia. Nova Scotia was third with 491, followed by Quebec with 305. In Alberta, 282 people were given permission to use cannabis for their health. Marc-Boris St-Maurice, who runs Montreal's downtown Compassion Centre, was among those arrested and released during the police raids. He's sure people seeking cannabis for health reasons will still find it, and he predicts "people are just going to be doing it in back alleys." "There are scrupulous people in the marijuana industry - but it's more the inconvenience of running around," said St-Maurice, the founder and onetime leader of the federal Marijuana party. "If someone is sick or suffering, they don't need that additional stress of wondering if they're gonna get ripped off or if they're gonna get arrested in the process." St-Maurice has six employees helping him support 1,500 club members. "It's a drop in the bucket compared to how many people smoke marijuana in the city of Montreal on a given day," he added. On Thursday, police seized just over 86 kilograms of marijuana and almost four kilos of hashish, which would put the street value of the seizure at just around $900,000. They also confiscated about $39,000 in cash. Nolin, a longtime advocate for relaxed drug laws, doesn't blame the police. He says they were likely acting on a complaint and were bound to apply the law. The Tory senator notes that the same thing happened in the past to a compassion club in Victoria, but the court decided to acquit the club. "(It's) basic police work," Nolin said. "If the police is receiving a complaint, they don't have the choice but to intervene. That is their job. That's the job society is asking them to do and we don't have to judge them if they receive a complaint." Some neighbours who lived near the cannabis clubs did complain to media after Thursday's arrests about people loitering around the buildings, and about the pungent smell emanating from them. Nolin chaired a Senate committee that recommended in 2002 that pot smoking should be legal for any resident over 16. He has visited several compassion clubs - including the ones in Vancouver, Victoria and, as recently as two weeks ago, the Quebec City club. "Before opening they invited police so they would know how they operate and how the club operates," he said. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 4:31am |
 Coolness: 219955 | fuckin stoners 
a couple of my friends got memberships downtown on rene levesque (for the shop in lachine) for 10$ a pop, saying they had back problems, with no proof or doctor's note or anything... no wonder they cracked down on this... it's just too ridiculous. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 10:44am |
 Coolness: 158720 | i can't believe what i read here... it's crazy how an org. can change in the space of 10 years! how that happen// club compassion was so legit and serious back then..
i really am for legalization or at least decriminalization of pot but i think it's wrong to embrace a cause and do what they did. if they want to open coffee shop well they need to be clear about it and not on the facade wanting to help sick people... that is soooo wrong. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 11:10am |
 Coolness: 76695 | It's pretty dumb to actually openly sell weed at a compassion club to just about anyone. I think the stupidest thing is fucking up the fact that you have such a centre by not working within the window of legality that does exist.
In Toronto there's the Hotbox café, which is totally legal as long as you buy food or drink when you sit on the back patio, and they don't sell you weed or anything that contains it. You bring your own, so it's basically a nice patio behind a head shop that's more hemp and sustainability oriented. The other pothead hangout is the Vapour Lounge which charges $5 "admission" or cover and is basically a place where you can smoke all you want indoors, no need to purchase anything except that admission fee, and although they don't sell there's always someone offering you "oil rips" or hits off of their volcano, and they provide these convenient glass trays to break up and roll weed off of. You're still not even supposed to enter unless you brought your own, but if you have a friend there with an ounce in front of you and he can see you on your way in, then they're cool. The bartender was wacked out of his head though. I have yet to see anything similar spring up in Quebec - people either blatantly push it or the government pulls this puritan bullshit where they can't be at all lenient about weed while speed and coke are all over the place (ie Scott's point). For all the square-headedness of Toronto (higher rent, no beer at the convenience store, alcohol tax, and no picnic laws for parks regarding booze), at least they allow compassion clubs to run, albeit by stricter guidelines, probably because they also have a few safe-shooting centres and a history of advocacy for harm reduction over abstention policies. I think the main issue in Montreal is that there's a lot of protesting but not enough sitting down and discussing a compromise that allows for medical marijuana. From what I've seen the slackness of the laws about public consumption make it so people don't care too much if there's a designated pot-shop enough to make sure it follows the letter of the law and requires proper medical proof of need. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 1:38pm |
 Coolness: 282440 | They ruined every terminally ill persons chances of buying pot safely in Montreal.
Congrats. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 2:29pm |
 Coolness: 201210 | They ruined every terminally ill persons chances of buying pot safely in Montreal.
Congrats. actually the stupid laws criminalizing pot ruined it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 2:31pm |
| Coolness: 282440 | Well also by allowing any old jagoff on the street to walk-in and buy some |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 2:32pm |
| Coolness: 201210 | which should be legal.
Pot is not a dangerous drug. Alcohol is far more dangerous. I know teachers, engineers, and doctors who smoke pot. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 2:36pm |
| Coolness: 282440 | Definitely, it's the friendliest drug there is. Now to get parliament to see that ... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 4:48pm |
| Coolness: 145185 | i stopped smoking pot... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 4:53pm |
| Coolness: 201210 | open defiance to the law is what people do every time they light up a joint, selling it in a shop is just one step above that. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 4:53pm |
 Coolness: 93085 | drugs are bad, mkay?
Ufot-OOOO! You stinky monkey! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 9:39pm |
 Coolness: 86490 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
i stopped smoking pot... ya between the ages of 15 -> 20, I was chronic. sure there were little dry spells and a few days here and there where I didn't smoke, but most of the time during that 15-20 period I would smoke hash or pot pretty much every day. I was known for it.. we even had little bottles to smoke hash hidden in strategic places in the school. like up on the catwalks above the auditorium - lol even when I went to Portugal and Spain, the first day I was there, I managed to buy a huge chunk of this Moroccan hash off this Gypsy. must've been about 10 grams.. I was sorted for the entire vacation there is a big conservation area across from our old highschool so we'd always cut class and just sit in the woods all day and get high. that was actually a big part of our life.. lol but then on my 21th birthday I just quit cold turkey. I got sick of being grumpy on days when I didn't smoke a joint, and I found it made me lazy. plus all my friends were total stoners with no ambition, so I just kinda cut them out of my life too so ya - after that i rarely smoke weed now. I agree though - it should be legalized - *especially* for people with chronic pain it's much safer than alcohol. the fact that many places that serve alcohol hire bouncers to stop people from fighting says a lot |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Tue 8 Jun, 2010 @ 9:55pm |
| Coolness: 201210 | I can't smoke weed (I have the kind of reaction someone who is 'allergic' to alcohol has, even from a small amount), but it's harmless for most people... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Wed 9 Jun, 2010 @ 12:16am |
| Coolness: 145185 | i just felt like it was making me too stupid, you know just not fast enough on the up take... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil a répondu le Wed 9 Jun, 2010 @ 1:53am |
| Coolness: 86490 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
i just felt like it was making me too stupid, you know just not fast enough on the up take... ha - ya that too. once i got accepted to university I knew I had to cut it out - I needed my mind to be sharp interestingly though.. our Prof taught us in Psych.. if you are a stoner, and go to class stoned, (like I often did in high school) the best thing to do when exam time comes, is to get high right before and go write the exam stoned it'll be much easier to retrieve the information you learned in class if you are in the same stoned mind state back in the day the best stuff - hands down - that I ever got was Lebanese Blonde Hash. People often claimed they could get it, but they were usually lying. The real deal Lebanese Blonde was actually really rare.. (for us anyway) I only got my hands on it 3 times, but it's amazing. It was pretty dry and broke off in flakes, and just a small amount was super potent. Would be nice to try some of that again =)  |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Rammius a répondu le Wed 9 Jun, 2010 @ 2:26am |
 Coolness: 32280 | The issue I have with the fact that the compassion centres have been shut down is the assumption that these government types make. They assume that by shutting these places down, recreational drug use might go down. If William S. Burroughs has taught me anything, it's that if you want drugs hard enough, you'll find them regardless of what the law may try. |
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