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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_rider a répondu le Wed 15 Apr, 2009 @ 9:31pm
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Est-ce que c'est si vrai que ça que cé impossible pour quelqu'un de s'en sortir?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch a répondu le Wed 15 Apr, 2009 @ 10:17pm
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Yes. Your heart will explode and your guts will rot.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Wed 15 Apr, 2009 @ 11:01pm
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Originally Posted By THE_RIDER

Est-ce que c'est si vrai que ça que cé impossible pour quelqu'un de s'en sortir?


no it's not true, however it is one of the hardest things to stop, because the body devolops a real physical dependence on it, if you try to stop you will start vomiting and having fever and shaking...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Wed 15 Apr, 2009 @ 11:07pm
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yup, not just that but your body depends on it to the point where you might die if you just cold-turkey it, that's why heroin addicts get put on methadone and slowly weaned off of that to help them quit..
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Ashigaikha a répondu le Wed 15 Apr, 2009 @ 11:13pm
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Tabernanthe iboga

'nuff said

[ www.erowid.org ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu a répondu le Thu 16 Apr, 2009 @ 12:55pm
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C'est possible de se sortir d'une addiction aux opiacés, y'a aucun doute là dessus. Cependant c'est assé infernal, les symptomes de manques sont déguelasses et ca dure une semaine. Ensuite t'as l'idée d'en consommer pareil, comme avec n'importe quel drogue un peu. Va lire sur wikipedia et erowid à propos du withdrawal, c'est assé déguelasse. Des bons livres écrit à la première personne d'un point de vue subjectif sur l'addiction aux opiacés sont : Thomas Dequincey - confessions of an english opium eater, William Borough - Naked Lunch et/ou William Burough - Junky.

Mais faut pas virer fou non plus, plusieurs personnes ont consommés des opiacés quelques fois dans leur vie sans devenir complètement dégénéré. Aussi longtemps que y'aura des médecins à la prescription facile et des fermier de papaver somniferum pauvres en afganistan, ce sera la joie dans nos coeurs. =)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sex.is.boring a répondu le Fri 17 Apr, 2009 @ 9:50am
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l'affaire aussi c'est que faut pas s'imaginer que tous les héroinomanes sont des junkies finis sul coin de la rue.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu a répondu le Tue 21 Apr, 2009 @ 12:03am
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Originally Posted By SEX.IS.BORING

l'affaire aussi c'est que faut pas s'imaginer que tous les héroinomanes sont des junkies finis sul coin de la rue.


Vrais
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos a répondu le Tue 21 Apr, 2009 @ 2:32am
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note to self: never try heroin.

Has anyone here done it tho? Whats it like?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Tue 21 Apr, 2009 @ 11:10pm
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

yup, not just that but your body depends on it to the point where you might die if you just cold-turkey it, that's why heroin addicts get put on methadone and slowly weaned off of that to help them quit..


Thats a myth...You wont die from cold turkey, its just realy realy realy painfull.
Methadone is used to "ease you off or heroin". What actualy happens is that it gets you you off one drug and on to an other. Methadone is quite adictive and hard to quit.

Ibogain, the synthetic version of iboga, is probably the most effective way of getting off heroin.
Mise À Jour » databoy a écrit sur Thu 23 Apr, 2009 @ 12:30pm
But its illegal... go figure
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos a répondu le Wed 22 Apr, 2009 @ 2:24am
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thats all well and good. But what does it feel like to do heroin? Is it like coke? or like acid? or like E? Or like Speeed?....
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Wed 22 Apr, 2009 @ 2:27am
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It's kinda like listening to dubstep.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch a répondu le Wed 22 Apr, 2009 @ 3:40am
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uuuuuuwh
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre a répondu le Wed 22 Apr, 2009 @ 8:27am
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

It's kinda like listening to dubstep.


i didn't know doing heroine made you want to kill yourself!!!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Sparklz a répondu le Wed 22 Apr, 2009 @ 3:14pm
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Originally Posted By JOJO_BIZARRE

i didn't know doing heroine made you want to kill yourself!!!


LMFAO!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Thu 23 Apr, 2009 @ 12:31pm
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

It's kinda like listening to dubstep.


LOL!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos a répondu le Fri 24 Apr, 2009 @ 1:57am
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I like listening to dubstep
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch a répondu le Fri 24 Apr, 2009 @ 12:28pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

I like listening to dubstep


That's it. I'm breaking up and I'm taking the dog with me.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» madforbrad a répondu le Sat 25 Apr, 2009 @ 12:47am
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i would say the initial withdrawal is a cakewalk compared to the daily urge triggered by anything from a AntiHeroin add to holding a spoon.

I hope you have a strong support system
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu a répondu le Sun 26 Apr, 2009 @ 5:06pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

thats all well and good. But what does it feel like to do heroin? Is it like coke? or like acid? or like E? Or like Speeed?....


IT's not like coke/speed ; it is not a stimulant at all. It is not like acid, there is nothing psychedelic about Heroin.

Let's try to explain this one. When you smoke pot you kinda feel sedated right? HAve you ever tried Valium/Prozac or any downer? When you have an orgasm and you feel relaxed after the peak? When you take a hot shower after a hard day of work you feel good dont you?

Lets say you smoke heroin, it comes on quite fast, it builds up for a while, for about 5 minutes you have this euphoria creeping on you in waves, the best thing to do while it happens is to sink in a couch, be in a confotable place and to close your eyes. All your daily phisical pain is instantly removed. You have no more backpain, no more nothing. Nothing can get to you. You are in a very specific confort zone. There is no philosophical concerns or insights running through your head because those things dosent matter when you're in the zone. This mindstate is so perfect, it is as hedonistic as it gets.

After the initial 5 minute moment of extreme bliss, you feel relaxed, pain free and your head is in a cloud ( a good cloudyness, you dont look retarded like somebody on K ) and it lasts for a few hours. In that state it is extremely pleasant to be social, to listen to music or else. It's like living on a velvet cushion. Some people prefer to to nod on a couch in half sleepiness tough.

When those few hours are gone, you dont feel any craving to do more like when coming down from a stimulants. That is, if you are not physically addicted. To be physically addicted you have to do opiates everyday for consecutives days ( a week!? I have no idea) . And no, you dont die if you stop cold turkey. But hehe, it is total and absolute hell =) there is no doubt abuot that. Fuck, if only you could die instead of going through THAT, im sure some addicts would be happy to die when they undergo that kind of alienation.

Any opiates are a fantastic way to come down from an all night coke binge or to be able to sleep when on the day after from amphetamines. IT feels less toxic than most downers.
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