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I Need Advice For Studio Monitors
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 11:39am
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I would personnaly not go for headphones, mostly because they fatigue the ears and REALLY make your mistakes stand out, if you aren't producing at a total professional level yet, you might give up thinking your music sounds like total shit...
monitors won't do that...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 11:47am
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haha, but its exactly the point.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 1:38pm
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I understand the trade off, but personally I believe that making good music and mixing it properly takes a very long time. Which is why I always smoke weed when I produce, it lets me listen to the same fucking beat over and over and over without getting bored. I used to find that when I would produce with headphones, I would get very discouraged...

besides, sound systems in clubs and at parties are never perfect, they hide a LOT of faults. SO
when you just want to play your stuff in a club, go for something that will sound more like the club, IE the studio monitors
if you are releasing an album, then you will def want to check your mix in headphones as well.

But with headphones, you won't 'feel' the bass and you'll be getting a mix picture of your track that is really almost too clean... most people will never hear the details in your track that YOU will hear with headphones, so it's almost overkill. And if producing in headphones means fatiguing faster and not being able to put enough time into your track, then headphones are definitely a negative thing.
Another thing is stereo image, you get a very different stereo image with headphones compared with studio monitors, the physical distance from the monitors DOES make a difference and it's a difference that will matter because again, the majority of people will be hearing your beats on a big sound system (mono most of the time btw)

But I think we can all agree that priority number one is training your ears and priority number two is listening to your final mix on as many systems all possible to get a better idea of what it will sound like to every one other than you.

also, never produce with a subwoofer.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» dreamtektor a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 2:21pm
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I got to say that righ now i am producing with headphones ( Audio technica mh50 )
The sound is pretty good but still i am pretty sure its better with monitors because i always got to record my shit and go listen to it in my car to get a better idea...
Producing 8 to 10 hours in a row with headphones is driving me nuts !
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 2:21pm
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Originally Posted By SCOTTYP

all the bigger music stores have them, they have been a standard for years. But the V6's are nearly the same.


thanks for the heads up, but i need to buy them from moog, since i have no money, but have a gift certificate...

how about any of these...

AKG K 121 Studio
[k121studio] $104.99


The AKG K 121 Studio are entry level professional headphones for various applications, as Project Studios and Home Recording.

Extreme Isolation EX-25
[ex25] $109.99


SPECIFICATIONS
Type: dynamic closed type headphones
Frequency Response: 20 - 20,000 Hz
Drivers: 40 mm
Impedance: 32 ohm
Sensitivity: 107dB/mW
Cord: 9 feet
Plug: stereo 3.5 mm with screw-on type gold plated 1/4¨ adapter
Rated Input Power: 500 mW
Maximum Input Power: max 500 mW
Weight: 9.5 oz

Audio-Technica ATH M30
[athm30] $78.99


Features:
• Exceptional clarity and sonic accuracy for mixing
• High power handling for tracking sessions
• Circumaural design ensures superior isolation
• 40 mm diameter drivers, neodymium magnets and CCAW voice coils
• Adjustable cushioned headband and lightweight design for maximum comfort
• OFC litz wire cables, convenient one-side exit
• Gold-plated stereo 1/8" (3.5 mm) connector with strain relief and professional screw-on 1/4" (6.3 mm) adapter

Fostex T-20 RP MkII.
[t20rpmk2] $114.99


SPECIFICATIONS
• IMPEDENCE - 50ohm
• FREQUENCY RESPONSE - 20Hz - 30kHz
• MAX INPUT LEVEL - 2000mW

would anyone recommend any of these models over the
Sony MDR-V500DJ
[mdrv500dj] $93.99


(what i'm using now)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BobGratton a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 3:26pm
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I've had a pair of MDR-7506 for now about 5 years, they're pretty nice but not for too long. Gets rough on the ears pretty quickly and at low volume it's pretty hard to hear the full mix clearly.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 3:58pm
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I find having a few different references quite usefull. A pair of flat reference speakers is a must (even if your sub-par romm kinda fucks that up)
A good pair of open earphones like the sen. hd600 are a must, specialy for bedroom studios.
A popular pair of closed dj earphones (if you are producing dj oriented music)
A pair of shitboxes (logitel make for for great shitboxes) are quite important seeing as a lot of peoples will most likely hear your music on shitboxes. They can also help you find glaring mix mistakes you may have missed with the other references.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 5:29pm
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what ever happened to checking out the new tune in your bro's 'stang?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 6:15pm
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or in your momma's tang!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 7:02pm
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so i guess no one has any useful suggestions about any of the above headphones from moog?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Thu 2 Apr, 2009 @ 11:39pm
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Open earphones for studio work, closed for live.

Buy the ones that sound best to you.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» dreamtektor a répondu le Fri 3 Apr, 2009 @ 2:29am
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seriously keep ur money a bit and try out the audio technica ath-m50 they sound amazing !
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Fri 3 Apr, 2009 @ 2:58am
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cool! those ones are like 150$ right?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» dreamtektor a répondu le Fri 3 Apr, 2009 @ 11:31am
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Yeah they might be in that range now, i had to buy mine on the net about 1 and a half or 2 years ago because they werent accessible nowhere around ... paid 220$ with tax and shipping so 150 is quite fair...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Fri 3 Apr, 2009 @ 3:05pm
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careful with the net. it's prone to corruption
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry a répondu le Fri 3 Apr, 2009 @ 3:55pm
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I'm using the AKG K240 Studio series headphones now for late night production. Honestly it really doesn't matter what your using. It's all about learning your monitors and their strengths and weaknesses.

Listen to your music on as many different sources as possible, and then compare it to something you think always sounds really good. Many "shity" speakers have shown me huge mistakes in my mix. Like my 2000$ Mackie monitors are awesome, but their so good that they won't distort if a track is clipping. Play your mix threw a shit speaker and voila distortion everywhere.

No monitor is going to make your mixing better until you know how to use it. You have to learn your monitor and learn your room too.
Mise À Jour » Bad_Chemistry a écrit sur Fri 3 Apr, 2009 @ 3:56pm
BTW you should NEVER do your whole mix in headphones alone. It seems every pro article I've read has stressed that point. Headphones just can't recreate sound the way speakers can. They really mess up your panning apparently.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean a répondu le Sat 4 Apr, 2009 @ 1:43am
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word, thanks again for a credible response.

it seems like every thread gets trolled and de-railed amazingly fast....
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK a répondu le Sat 4 Apr, 2009 @ 10:35am
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ a répondu le Sat 4 Apr, 2009 @ 12:16pm
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personnaly i use KRK RP5 and i'm really satisfied with those. to me the bottom line is to have good ears.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Sat 4 Apr, 2009 @ 1:20pm
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Originally Posted By DMTIO

BTW you should NEVER do your whole mix in headphones alone.


yes, of course, your stereo field is separated in your ears instead of in front of you, but what people should do is do the eqing in the headphones, then rough mix, then go on speakers and finalize your mix with pans and reverb.
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