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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 1:33am
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It's not like they changed the dialog in the movie from the comic. It's as it was written, and it was written 2 years before bush even got "elected" for his first term. You can apply that whole "we want freedom" thing to ANY civilisation. North america is the way it was because people wanted more freedom than they were being given by the british government, does that mean that our history is actually american propaganda?

The only connection linking this story to the current state of affairs in the world is the one you're choosing to see. It's a fictional story based loosley on actual events that happened in 480 BC. There was also a movie made in 1962 that dealt with the same story of the 300 Spartans that went against what the greek council instructed, and it's what inspired Frank Miller to write his version, and at the time that version was said to reflect the cold war.

The story in itself is not "propaganda", it's simply a story that can be seen to have elements of any war or conflict that's going on at the moment if you chose to make the association yourself.

You need to read up and understand what propaganda is a little more.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 1:42am
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* tousse * i think i understand perfectly what's propaganda mean. lol if u knew my family history u would understand! ;p

i really saw propaganda in that movie. i'm not the only one. i even read article where they mention the fact that in iran the movie was really taking bad..

we have different opinion. we have different perception maybe. maybe i'm mistaken but i'm still in my initial position for the moment.
Mise À Jour » Holly_Golightly a écrit sur Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 1:44am
and you gonna tell me that i paranoi that there's no hollywood lobby in washington... come on!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 2:03am
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The battle that 300 is based on -> [ en.wikipedia.org ]

And if you'd read any of the articles, you'd know that the iranians are pissed off and call it propaganda to get people to hate them for the war that the US is most probably going to hit them with next, COMPLETELY MISSING THE FACT that the FICTIONAL COMIC that the movie is based on was written when CLINTON was still in office, and has absolutely NOTHING to do with the current state of political affairs.

And let's not forget that the movie went into initial production in 2003, on a comic that was written in *1998*, LONG before bush was in office and before there was even any sort of HINT that there would be any kind of invasion of Iran. If it's going to happen this year, then Frank Miller had some super-secret inside info from the "illuminati" or whoever it is that "runs the world" That there was going to be an invasion of Iran 9 YEARS after his book was written.

Producer Gianni Nunnari had nourished a passion for the Battle of Thermopylae since his youth. However, the story was already in development under director Michael Mann as Gates of Fire. Nunnari discovered Frank Miller's graphic novel 300 and decided that it could serve as the basis for a film. He acquired the rights to the novel from Miller. By May 2003, the project was being produced by Nunnari and Mark Canton, while Michael B. Gordon had completed a second draft of 300 that was 121 pages long. In June 2004, director Zack Snyder, previously known for Dawn of the Dead, was hired to direct the film. Snyder, who had already attempted to make a film on the basis of Miller's novel, worked with screenwriter Kurt Johnstad to rewrite Gordon's script for production. Miller was attached to the project as executive producer and consultant.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 12:17pm
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oui tt ce que tu affirme est vrai.... le fait que ce film ait ete en pre-prod en 2oo3 n'empeche aucunement le fait que ce film est truffe de propagande...

comme je l'ai dit plus tot, le fait que ce film est ete ecris avant ou pendant l'administration clinton empeche aucunement ce film de contenir de la propagande americai ne comme la majorite des films americains... desolee.

tu m'as pas encore convaincue et tt ce que tu asd ecris ^ je l'avais deja lu...
Mise À Jour » Holly_Golightly a écrit sur Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 12:19pm
trouve moi la page du comic book ou la reine de grece s'addresse au conseil et si c'est exactement le meme dialogues...p-e je commencerais a flancher sur mon opinion... ;)

en entandant je te trouve plutot bon sportif et je suis plutot heureuse qu'on argumentent sans s'envoyer chier. hehe ;)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 3:17pm
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Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE

they even found a way for talking shit and put their little morality about homosexuality...when they make reference in a negative way to athene and say something like:
aaarr little boys lovers..


I have to stop you there. It's been explained back when the comic was written and been re-explained every time someone talks about it by Frank Miller AND any kind of Greek historian willing to be objective.

Spartans HAD homosexuals. They practiced homosexuality. They had NOTHING against homosexuality. Please pay attention to the words here: "boy lovers". Not "man lovers". It is not a comment against homosexuality but against pedophilia. Athenians used to "tutor" young kids in more ways than one...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 3:24pm
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je sais que l'homosexualite fesait partie integrale de la societe a cette epoque mais je trouve qu'une moralite est appliquee ds le dialogue.
Mise À Jour » Holly_Golightly a écrit sur Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 3:26pm
et cette moralite est americaines not spartans.

a cette epoque les spartans pensaient vraiment que ce que les atheniens fesaient etait mal?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 6:35pm
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toute les sociétée se batte pour la libertée, pasce que ou la libertée de quelqun sarete, celle dun autre commence, ou c le contraire, etk vous saver ou jveut en venir...

ben cest la meme chose pour les société... chaqun a sa definition de la libertée et elle empiette tjrs sur celle que quelqun dautre...

faut pas dire que des que quechose prone la libertée, cest pro-americain...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 18 Mar, 2007 @ 8:43pm
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^

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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Necspress a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 12:26am
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k...so...the movie was not bad or something... didn't watch it yet,...soon.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 12:31am
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no, it was good.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 1:17am
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go see it on imax!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 10:44am
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The funniest part about this movie is that there were not even 300 soldier, there were 7,000. I still can't wait to see it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 1:43pm
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7000 soldiers but only 300 elite spartiates
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WrEbBi a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 2:12pm
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Gloire à toi homme!
Ce film manque de profondeur dit-elle?!?Je crois au contraire que ceux qui manque de profondeur aujourdhui ce sont nous! Le mot gloire ne fait plus de sens. La gloire des gens riches célèbres rempli de botox? Dans cette histoire vrai de la battaille de Thermopyles on peu enfin se rapler le sens du mot gloire..la gloire d'un peuple, la gloire d'un seul homme parmis tant d'autres. Vivre pour son prochain!

Absolument glorieux! 1 000 fois bravo.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DiddyKong a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 2:21pm
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Je l'ai réécouter... mais n français cette fois ci...

J'me suis encore endormis :S
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» voided a répondu le Mon 19 Mar, 2007 @ 2:49pm
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I -loved- it. Definitely recommend everyone who hasn't yet to go see it.

Really, do it.

Do it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Thu 22 Mar, 2007 @ 8:43pm
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lol jimcarrey's23
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Amp_Up a répondu le Fri 23 Mar, 2007 @ 9:20am
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SPARTANS!!!! They call themselves immortals, lets test their name !!!

Mouhahaha!!

Très belles images, j'étais vraiment fier de voir tous les noms québécois défiler sur dans les credits à la fin du film, mais côté scénario, y'ont juste changé l'habit militaire usuel pour une tunique grecque.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Fri 23 Mar, 2007 @ 4:52pm
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD


where dis you get that from fred?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» xbsd a répondu le Fri 23 Mar, 2007 @ 6:34pm
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HAHA pour la passe du gars naked devant la lune!
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