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Temperature Vs Lifespan
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul a répondu le Sat 25 Nov, 2006 @ 9:35am
cinderella_soul
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aerial_raver- thanks for the article on telomeres. It is/was insteresting.

but on the topic of the temperature and lifespan article.. I found it slightly a little confusing to read at some point. Note: they should fuckin affix the study what the hell.. have some concept of education-- when I say they I mean those who wrote the article. Mind you maybe I just did not see it.

Anyway, temperature and lifespan.. if I understood correctly the researchers produced an artificially hot room temperature over time, which then systematically ended up lowering the mices core body temperature. Then they note that they associate this lower core body temperature led to a longer lifespan.

What comes to mind to me is global warming, which I can totally intuit (intuition, logic) is an actually warming of the planet due to let's say amongst other things, holes in the ozone layer perpetuated by pollution. k!
Well the global temperature is warming up, similar to what happened to the mice in the expirement. no?! Then if these finding were applicable to humans, then should not our core body temperatures be decreased as a result of the warming, thus presumably making us live longer.
Am I missing something because I already had no faith in modern science.. and this article seems slightly ridiculous.

I am so sceptical that decreased core body temperature as a result of exposure to heat contributed to a longer life span. If anything, it wasprobably the mere fact that there bodies and brains adjusted their selves to the temperature that contributed to a longer life span. That process would be called homeostasis and it is necessary to survival of human beings.

I wonder if y'all get what I am saying or if this seems all so wierd to y'all.

I guess I'll find out..

I liked hearing y'all talk about internal combustion and all that stuff.. anything else to add on the subject?

help!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Tue 28 Nov, 2006 @ 3:41pm
alienzed
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Originally Posted By CINDERELLA_SOUL

aerial_raver- thanks for the article on telomeres. It is/was insteresting.

but on the topic of the temperature and lifespan article.. I found it slightly a little confusing to read at some point. Note: they should fuckin affix the study what the hell.. have some concept of education-- when I say they I mean those who wrote the article. Mind you maybe I just did not see it.

Anyway, temperature and lifespan.. if I understood correctly the researchers produced an artificially hot room temperature over time, which then systematically ended up lowering the mices core body temperature. Then they note that they associate this lower core body temperature led to a longer lifespan.

What comes to mind to me is global warming, which I can totally intuit (intuition, logic) is an actually warming of the planet due to let's say amongst other things, holes in the ozone layer perpetuated by pollution. k!
Well the global temperature is warming up, similar to what happened to the mice in the expirement. no?! Then if these finding were applicable to humans, then should not our core body temperatures be decreased as a result of the warming, thus presumably making us live longer.
Am I missing something because I already had no faith in modern science.. and this article seems slightly ridiculous.

I am so sceptical that decreased core body temperature as a result of exposure to heat contributed to a longer life span. If anything, it wasprobably the mere fact that there bodies and brains adjusted their selves to the temperature that contributed to a longer life span. That process would be called homeostasis and it is necessary to survival of human beings.

I wonder if y'all get what I am saying or if this seems all so wierd to y'all.

I guess I'll find out..

I liked hearing y'all talk about internal combustion and all that stuff.. anything else to add on the subject?

help!


a little misconception here is that the hole in the ozone layer is causing global warming, this is not the case. In fact, the ozone layer has mostly rejuvenated and all the damage being done has been reduced significantly since the 80's. The global warming issue is mainly due to the fact that we are physically widening our atmosphere and more of the sun's rays are being kept on earth as oppose to being reflected. Ice reflects light and water absorbs it, so as the ice caps melt and leave way for more water, the heat will exponentially be kept more and more on earth, heating us up at unimagineable rates. We're fucked in other words unless we find a way to refreeze the antarctic and the artic.

But as far as temperature goes, heat means fast and slow means cold in most scientific applicabilities... but this is obvious to most (to me it's blatant) and studying this seems like such a waste or resources. The human body needs to remain at a certain temperature for us to survive and be healthy though, so unless we can change the way our bodies work, this has no effect on humans. Besides, I think we live long enough as it is, even too long if you consider the extremely closed minds our politicians have. A lifespan of 40 years is more than enough to keep civilization progressing properly.
I'm feeling go habs go right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul a répondu le Wed 29 Nov, 2006 @ 1:04am
cinderella_soul
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I hope you realize that I did not say that the hole in the ozone layer is CAUSING global warming. I appreciate no doubt, generally, people wanting to clear up misconceptions. I don't doubt that the whole in the ozone layer is reparable as the human body can be. What do you mean when you say that we are "physically widening our atmosphere?"

I, repeat, I said that amongst other things whole in the ozone layer is perpetuated by pollution, which because of sun rays having more direct access, globe can become hotter. Yeah, sure there are other things which contrbute to this. That' why at times I try to stay away from words such as cause and instead use the word contribute for example.

The more we stray away from balance, moderation, yes, we could imagine getting more fucked necesarily?!

Yes, ice might play a very important role-- after all everything is interconnected. Glaciers melt there will be more water than there normally would be. Premature global warming comes with all sorts of detrimental problems.

more to say at a later time.. for now just this:)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Thu 30 Nov, 2006 @ 3:31pm
alienzed
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The hole in the ozone layer, as far as I understood from the An Inconvenient Truth movie, is all but closed, so no longer an issue. But that never affected the heat of the earth as ultraviolet don't create heat, the other side of the spectrum does. Also, light getting through the atmosphere has never been a problem, glocal warming is caused by that same light being prevented from leaving the atmosphere due to the widening atmospheric layers.

I say physically widening to explain the actually physical width of the atmosphere.. you could say that the radius of the earth, if you include the atmosphere, is larger than it used to be. Imagine a beer with a lot of head and one without, well the earth resembles the beer with a lot of head more now...
I'm feeling @!^!$#@^%@%$^@ right now..
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