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An Open Letter To Optimist Prhyme
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Unknown User a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 8:06pm
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All heads in the bag agree, that you are doing good work. That you should be proud of, and love, yourself.

Your "just say no" message, and your touching reflections upon your own life and experiences are always delivered tastefully, without the jaundice of jaded bitterness. You certainly find new and innovative ways of reminding everyone that it was ok for you to experiment - and that your experience has led your to conclude that we shouldnt have ours. And, certainly, you never seem preachy or overbearing.

Ultimately, and this is the key, all that really matters is your effectiveness. Your influence has been not only paramount, but the words "i just skip over all his posts now" are never uttered in respect to your message of delivery from the SATAN of drug use.

We wish to join you in thanking jebus for the life we've been given, and in praying for a life free from the hatred and despair of drugs.

ONE LOVE
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 8:15pm
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"All heads in the bag agree"

hey there's a contradiction.. i thought you were a bag of shut up.

here's some advice, get those fucking heads to SHUT UP.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 8:45pm
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oooo i bet they are SO scared.

The one thing i give elliot credit for is actually having experiemented heavily with drugs before. That makes his words of advice more meaningful than people who just randomly say "drugs are bad". do they really know? maybe they have seen people fuck up their lives but have they done it themselves? experience makes your words that much more valid. thumbs up to elliot even if his posts were getting out of hand in length.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 8:47pm
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HAH

i'm sorry but that really is laughable.

you just said that you have to have done drugs to know that they're bad for you! that is THE most rediculous thing you've ever said.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» G__ a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 8:54pm
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she didn't say it at all

not to waste time, let's narrow it down

"i give elliot credit for is actually having experiemented heavily with drugs before. That makes his words of advice more meaningful...experience makes your words that much more valid"

neoform, do us this one favor, don't bash Megan for the sake of it, if it isn't something directed towards you, then why make a stupid comment that really isn't valid to the thread, what you said was completly out of context and useless, your online battle is getting out of hand
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 8:56pm
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i never said that you have to do drugs to know that they are bad for you. people can do drugs and not have it affect their lives. That is drug use in moderation. I'm just saying that people who have been to hell because of drugs can more effectively tell others how bad it is rather than a person who doesnt know what it is like.

Thanks again for changing everything i say around. How about you just get a life and stop posting.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 8:56pm
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"That makes his words of advice more meaningful than people who just randomly say "drugs are bad". do they really know?"

yeah, she didn't say that at all.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 9:03pm
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thank you aullin white!! =)

"That makes his words of advice more meaningful than people who just randomly say "drugs are bad". do they really know?"

- maybe you dont understand english properly. i said it makes his words MORe valid. not that ex drugs users are the only ones that can say drugs are bad. how about reading something properly before opening your mouth.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 9:07pm
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right. you got me, i am so wrong on this one.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Optimist_pRhyme a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 9:46pm
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Wow.

that was not what i was expecting at all.

I deeply want to thank who ever it is you guys in the bag are.

because ever since MY bad mouthing of a certain *unnamed* Crack face, i thought i had gone to far in the process of trying to warn people about his lying and cheating ways. so much to the point where i made myself look like an asshole who goes around talking shit about people.


so this post has really brought my spirits back up. and given me new modivation.

Thank you.

Sometimes when youre telling people things that deep down they already know, like...
"drug'r'bad, M'kay?"

it feels like youre talking to a wall, cause what youre saying they already know so you dont get any feed back... except the occasional,
"its none of your business, so piss off."

But the thing that keeps me going is the occasional reminder... like when my friend leigh told me because of my warnings and the things i pointed out she has never tried, nor will she ever try(since she now sees what it CAN do to people) Crystal Meth.

and like this forum.

so before i babble on anymore, since as meggie pointed out earlier i tend to babble on and on, and just when you think im about to stop.

I keep going with some other thought.

lol.

anyways, Thanks so much.
you have just made my week, maybe even month since i can look at this forum whenever i want as a reminder to keep at it...

Peace and Respect to all those who dont hate me,

~ elliot

(Neoform, quit starting shit with meggie in this forum. I know shes beautiful, but you can flirt with her like the other boys, you dont have to pull hair anymore.)

~ Sir~Rants~Alot strikes again!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Unknown User a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 10:07pm
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The bag was certainly not being sarcastic at all.

NOT SARCASTIC.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Optimist_pRhyme a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 10:43pm
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well if you were, you need to work on it.
cause it sounded really sweet to me.
you said everything that i aspire my posts to be.
they may not always come out as i hope...
but I do my best to say things as i see em.

re~reading your post now i feel foolish.
but i guess thats just my curse.
trying to see the good in things.

and if you are being sarcastic,
then obviously there is nothing good left in you(for me to see at least.)
and im sorry for you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Optimist_pRhyme a répondu le Sat 18 Jan, 2003 @ 11:39pm
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wow. re~reading it a 3rd time...

i sometimes amaze myself...

how can someone be so naive?

just boggles the mind. doesnt it?

well. I think this will be my retiring from ravewave for a good long while.

It appears my ranting and rambling has been a total waste of time. since all my philosophies and opinions have fallen on deaf ears.

As a matter of fact this new information that has been brought to my attention, has totally changed my view on the world.

WHY BOTHER?

If someone who doesnt know anything about me, mocks my attempts at giving advice(even though i know i can sometimes come across as preachy)...

I MEAN WHATS THE POINT?

Quite obviously this person, who is too much of a coward because they’re so feebleminded from destroying their brain with drugs to insult me as themselves and they have to hide behind a fake account...

MUST BE THE VOICE OF RAVEWAVE.

I mean come on.

I dont even know why i bother living.
If Im not accepted by some Crack head who hides behind a fake account. Whats the POINT?

the point.

well, i dont care how long this is,

because the point is that...

though I have severely damaged my brain with chemicals, doesnt mean that i have to stand by and watch a whole new generation of kids do it to themselves.
I know i cant save alot of you, but even when i save one like my friend Leigh, then there is A POINT.

OK. So Im not that experienced in giving advice, and i sometimes come across as preachy and overbearing.

And my strong opinions may have offend some people who are trying to PUSH these DISGUSTING chemicals onto the new blood of the rave scene to get them hooked when their young and naive.

BUT I am not insulted by someone who is too filled with cowardice to make comments about me as themselves. And i wont stop my attempts to show people what theyre doing to themselves.

Honestly, i hope youre not SO much of a chicken shit loser that you skip over my reply,
because YOU make me sad.

I hope that someday you can escape your shackles of drug addiction and realize that you DO have a brain which works, when its not filled with poisonous chemicals...

and that your life isnt so terrible you need a chemical to tell you that its alright and everything will be ok.

I know this is the most extreme example.
And i may offend some people with this.

but i figured it was only appropriate for an extreme coward like the bag. and i am sick of posting the same shit over and over again as much as im sure youre sick of hearing it.

And im sorry Meggie. but this was quit the rant.

But ignorant, loud mouthed cowards really piss me off.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Sun 19 Jan, 2003 @ 12:07am
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optimist: sucks when people who used to be your friends leave you and others behind for a drug huh?

I know one day I will stop caring though.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Optimist_pRhyme a répondu le Sun 19 Jan, 2003 @ 12:26am
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scotty: I hear ya bro.
Makes you wonder how happy they are now?
left alone... well, with their drugs. and drug addict "friends" who're around more for convenience and drugs then friendship.

dont worry, the pain of betrayal and abandonment will subside... so dont kill it off.

Ive made that mistake a number of times.
and when you kill emotion you have for someone, it kills a little piece of you too.

So if you do that, youre only letting them win.

personally.

i refuse to let any crack heads affect me.
no matter how harsh the betrayal.

I wont let them affect my life.
because ive realized they KNOW theyre going down the drain. and theyre just looking for company.

its sad really. in a scary kinda way.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente a répondu le Sun 19 Jan, 2003 @ 12:47am
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ooooooooohhhhhh nooooooo baby please dont gooooooooooooooo

dont leave us elliot. You are the future of ravewave
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Unknown User a répondu le Sun 19 Jan, 2003 @ 12:58am
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your brain has to be really destroyed by chemicals not to be able to perceive the sarcasm in that message.

all heads agree.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente a répondu le Sun 19 Jan, 2003 @ 1:00am
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if you were talking about my message youre wrong. it was NOT sarcastic

unless its the booze speaking
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Unknown User a répondu le Sun 19 Jan, 2003 @ 1:02am
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i was talking about the initial message.

altho yours IS pretty funny either way.

all heads agree.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Optimist_pRhyme a répondu le Sun 19 Jan, 2003 @ 1:23am
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meh, ill be the first to admit it.
i have done alot of damage.

but mostly it affects my perception of things.

like how depending on my mood and alcohol consumption im either very naive and hopeful of people doing good things for no reason.

instead of stupid obnoxious things for no reason.

luckily for you guys you caught me in a Very Good and trusting mood...
since ive had an awesome weekend.

but luckily for me. there is jack shit that a bunch of sad little heads can say to bring me down. so i hope you're having fun where ever you are you sad little sketchpads.
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