Communism : 05.20.2006
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Sun 30 Apr, 2006 @ 4:32am |
 Coolness: 145310 | ya if you sit through it
The change of value that occurs in the case of money intended to be converted into capital, cannot take place in the money itself, since in its function of means of purchase and of payment, it does no more than realise the price of the commodity it buys or pays for; and, as hard cash, it is value petrified, never varying.1 Just as little can it originate in the second act of circulation, the re-sale of the commodity, which does no more than transform the article from its bodily form back again into its money-form. The change must, therefore, take place in the commodity bought by the first act, M-C, but not in its value, for equivalents are exchanged, and the commodity is paid for at its full value. We are, therefore, forced to the conclusion that the change originates in the use-value, as such, of the commodity, i.e., in its consumption. In order to be able to extract value from the consumption of a commodity, our friend, Moneybags, must be so lucky as to find, within the sphere of circulation, in the market, a commodity, whose use-value possesses the peculiar property of being a source of value, whose actual consumption, therefore, is itself an embodiment of labour, and, consequently, a creation of value. The possessor of money does find on the market such a special commodity in capacity for labour or labour-power. By labour-power or capacity for labour is to be understood the aggregate of those mental and physical capabilities existing in a human being, which he exercises whenever he produces a use-value of any description. But in order that our owner of money may be able to find labour-power offered for sale as a commodity, various conditions must first be fulfilled. The exchange of commodities of itself implies no other relations of dependence than those which, result from its own nature. On this assumption, labour-power can appear upon the market as a commodity, only if, and so far as, its possessor, the individual whose labour- power it is, offers it for sale, or sells it, as a commodity. In order that he may be able to do this, he must have it at his disposal, must be the untrammelled owner of his capacity for labour, i.e., of his person.2 He and the owner of money meet in the market, and deal with each other as on the basis of equal rights, with this difference alone, that one is buyer, the other seller; both, therefore, equal in the eyes of the law. The continuance of this relation demands that the owner of the labour-power should sell it only for a definite period, for if he were to sell it rump and stump, once for all, he would be selling himself, converting himself from a free man into a slave, from an owner of a commodity into a commodity. He must constantly look upon his labour-power as his own property, his own commodity, and this he can only do by placing it at the disposal of the buyer temporarily, for a definite period of time. By this means alone can he avoid renouncing his rights of ownership over it.3 The second essential condition to the owner of money finding labour-power in the market as a commodity is this — that the labourer instead of being in the position to sell commodities in which his labour is incorporated, must be obliged to offer for sale as a commodity that very labour-power, which exists only in his living self. In order that a man may be able to sell commodities other than labour-power, he must of course have the means of production, as raw material, implements, &c. No boots can be made without leather. He requires also the means of subsistence. Nobody — not even "a musician of the future" — can live upon future products, or upon use-values in an unfinished state; and ever since the first moment of his appearance on the world's stage, man always has been, and must still be a consumer, both before and while he is producing. In a society where all products assume the form of commodities, these commodities must be sold after they have been produced, it is only after their sale that they can serve in satisfying the requirements of their producer. The time necessary for their sale is superadded to that necessary for their production. For the conversion of his money into capital, therefore, the owner of money must meet in the market with the free labourer, free in the double sense, that as a free man he can dispose of his labour-power as his own commodity, and that on the other hand he has no other commodity for sale, is short of everything necessary for the realisation of his labour-power. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MightyMike a répondu le Mon 1 May, 2006 @ 6:07pm |
 Coolness: 108455 | Nice Thread! C'est comme d'aller à la bibliothèque, sans avoir à lire le livre au complet pour comprendre l'essentiel...
Sérieusement, j'ai hâte de voir ce party là... Aniaml Farm reste un des meilleurs livre que j'ai lu... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine a répondu le Mon 1 May, 2006 @ 6:26pm |
 Coolness: 51080 | Lesson 2: Myths and Legends of Soviet Russia;
Censorship and Workcamps Censorship Stalin was not just Russia leader (or dictator), Stalin was Russia’s Father. Stalin is also a product of his times. He was a strong leader when Russia needed him most; he was not the greatest battle strategist, but Stalin is what unified the country in order to survive the Great Patriotic War. Without Stalin, Russia today might only be those lands located in Siberia. This does not excuse his war crimes, but that is a different topic. Stalin was a harsh Father to his people, but no matter how cold the History Channel paints this one man, they can never capture the pride the Russia people had in Stalin at the time. He held before the Russian people the Grail of the times and I think there are very few wars in the history of modern times when the citizens of a country were so unified and sacrificing in battle and war times. Russia came too close to losing herself in that war. Dissidence could not be afforded at that time. But Russian censorship was a funny thing. It was not as all encompassing as we were lead to believe. And actually it was the neighbor or co-worker who was the greatest censor in the life of an average person. Governmental censorship seemed to change like the wind. Not many works or topics were banned for the entire history of Soviet Russia. A painting could be banned and in five years it could be the toast of the town, and then banned again, and the cycle continued. Not all works or authors that were critical of the Soviet state were completely banned either. Mikhail A. Bulgakov was a struggling playwright, whose plays never made it past the censors. In frustration Bulgakov wrote a personal letter to Stalin, explaining that all he wanted was to be a good citizen. Stalin gave Bulgakov a position at a theater as the house playwright and Bulgakov wrote many critically acclaimed plays during that time, some satirical and some historical, but not everyone was complementing the Soviet state. This is not to say, artists and writers were not punished (exiled, sent to work camps, put under house arrest, or just plain murdered) by the state for their dissent. But I am trying to show that censorship was not cut and dry in the Soviet State. Even Stalin, once beloved and adored, was banned eventually. I feel the government had very little to do with censorship. Instead, I feel that it was the public opinion and communistic academic critics who played the largest part in decided what was to be banned and was to be allowed. After the horrors of the Great Patriotic were sufficiently put to rest and Stalin good and dead, the public saw fit to destroy the Stalin cult and anything that had to with Stalin (this was in the 1960’s). Stalingrad was renamed Volgograd, statues were dismantled and destroyed (in Volgograd they dumped Stalin in the river!), and pictures burned. Work Camps This is a very difficult subject to explain. During the Great Patriotic war, if you were not fighting, then you were in a work camp. The populations of Russia after WWII was, at the most 50% of the population that Russia had before the war. Work camps are similar to concentration camps, except that a prisoner was worked to death, instead of gassed. The common criminal was not immediately sent to a work camp. These camps were reserved mainly for felonies and treason. Treason was a matter taken very seriously. If you were not Russian by ethnicity you were a suspect for treason. Entire ethnic populations, such as the Tuva and the Kalmykians, were relocated to work camps during the WWII era. When those horrors were over, Russians forgot. There are many statistics for the number of people killed and/or imprisoned during this time, but the range is so great between them that is almost not worth mentioned any numbers at all. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Tue 2 May, 2006 @ 3:11pm |
 Coolness: 149115 | 
18 days and counting! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Wed 3 May, 2006 @ 8:19am |
| Coolness: 145310 | till the REVOLUTION!!!!!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Wed 3 May, 2006 @ 12:53pm |
| Coolness: 149115 |  |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ a répondu le Wed 3 May, 2006 @ 1:02pm |
 Coolness: 102315 | just beside my place woot!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore a répondu le Wed 3 May, 2006 @ 3:34pm |
 Coolness: 471915 | Dom's a communist y'allz didnt knew ??!!!
lets get some purple drank at your pad before mofo ! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Thu 4 May, 2006 @ 2:41am |
| Coolness: 149115 | everybody go to
[ www.pinky38.com ] and look how pinky communisted up his site what?!?!?! that's patriotism. or something. nationalism. dedication. RESPECT. PLUR!!! communism = plur must. sleep. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Thu 4 May, 2006 @ 2:50am |
| Coolness: 149115 | okay this is fucking weird. i think i'm mentally deranged but in the meantime there's all these people having conversations about wether or not PLUR is like communism
[ nwtekno.org ] [ my.purerave.com ] and here's scotty p making the VERY SAME POINT like a year ago wtf? [ my.purerave.com ] weiwwwd. scotty p owns. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Thu 4 May, 2006 @ 4:03am |
| Coolness: 145310 | there is totally some communist overtones in the idea of plur, but unlike communism i always saw plur as less political and more spiritual...more like a life philosophy than an ideological stance... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Thu 4 May, 2006 @ 1:09pm |
 Coolness: 146435 | i think plur&communism(the one we discussed, steve, not staline's) are something like complementary or interleaved, sharing some underlying aims (like community and general welfare, in the global idea)
i understand the conversations you're pointing at, there, but i don't agree with them either |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus a répondu le Thu 4 May, 2006 @ 3:59pm |
 Coolness: 121145 | i find plur is like the 80s/90s equivalent of hippies |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide a répondu le Thu 4 May, 2006 @ 8:17pm |
 Coolness: 75380 | Its true... I agree with what`s been said. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Fri 5 May, 2006 @ 12:10pm |
| Coolness: 145310 | here is an interesting question...
Karl Marx (the writter/political theorist not steve lalla...) love him or hate him? Why? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Fri 5 May, 2006 @ 2:20pm |
| Coolness: 149115 | LOVE HIM.
historian. marx's unfulfilled final task in life was to write a historical account of like, ALL Of human history, showing how humanity is gradually, constantly moving, evolving if you will, towards communism. communism for him was not a matter of morals or ethics but simply of human nature, he believed that an in-depth look at history would always show tensions between those in power and the majority of people trying to take control of the means of production, this tension being the source of virtually all revolutions etc |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Sat 6 May, 2006 @ 5:45am |
| Coolness: 145310 | i agree
got to respect the attempt to create a scientific basis for the study of history regardless of how sucessful you may think his project was...In many wayssocial and political science can be seen as trully coming of age only after marx's death...I think it's important when we try to decide what trully is marx's legacy that we seperate his thought from that of those who attempted to apply it to the real world (ie lenin and Mao Tse Tung) i think perhaps the most important thing marx was trying to say was that rather than human consciousness dictating social and political reality it is the reverse, social and political reality dictate human consciousness... what do other people think? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Sun 7 May, 2006 @ 8:26pm |
| Coolness: 149115 | ^^^ explains why, in Canada, COmmunism is a rave party, not a political party.. (the lack of dialogue re:basdini i mean, not yer actual post, basdini)
;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Mon 8 May, 2006 @ 4:06pm |
| Coolness: 149115 | ok just for a heads up in case you're just joining us, this is a PARTY with tons of wicked music covering live hip hop, breaks, turntablism, electro, ghetto, booty tek, DnB and techno, with a full service bar until 3, runnin til 8 in the morning, for the low low cost of five bucks for everyone. communism. now THAT's a party!!
just to set the record straight, level 4 productions' value the significance and meaning behind the !onelove principle above and beyond anything, so if you're NOT a communist, you're still welcome here, we love you and, in fact, I don't even think we're sure if we're communists or not. i mean, who can afford to be nowadays? well.. maybe for one night heheheh !ONELOVE!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik a répondu le Mon 8 May, 2006 @ 4:06pm |
| Coolness: 149115 | Socalled
Socalled is said to be a magician, cartoonist, pianist, photographer, animator, DJ & beat-writer whose first hip-hop EP 'The Socalled Seder' has been hailed as 'one of the greatest works of Jewish music in years'. His beats appear on Krakauer's award-winning album 'The Twelve Tribes' and 'Frank London's Klezmer Brass Allstars' 'Brotherhood of Brass' (also on Piranha). He has produced tracks for many rap acts and is currently working on a remix for the upcoming New York Folksbeine's 'Kids in Yiddish' album. Socalled was born Josh Dolgin in Ottawa, Ontario and raised just north, in Chelsea, Quebec. As a kid he was always in musicals and drew cartoons for the Ottawa Citizen. He hated soccer. He was bribed by his mother to continue piano lessons until high school, then he picked up the accordion. He wrote for the newspaper and played in any kind of band – salsa, gospel, rock, funk – then discovered MIDI and hip hop. He worked with rappers, he made madd beats, he got into studios. He graduated from McGill and made a 50 minute animated film for the Canada Council, meanwhile writing for Hour Magazine and performing. He has now appeared on a dozen recordings as pianist, singer, arranger, rapper, writer and producer. He rocks the machine with in David Krakauer’s Klezmer Madness!, sings with Toronto-based Beyond the Pale, performs with home-base band Shtreiml in Montreal, with LA-based the Aleph Project. He conducts the Addath Israel choir for High Holidays. Socalled performs and records widely with a crew of mixed-up freaks and geniuses from around the world, including Killah Priest, Susan Hoffman-Watts, Frank London, and Irving Fields. [ www.socalledmusic.com ] |
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