Official Statement From Aria
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 5:43am |
 Coolness: 145425 | Originally posted by ELKA...
Ya. I'm not from Quebec. I don't understand french. Anyway, I don't make a habit of making fun of people for not understanding languages or grammar. BUT this guy is an asshole. I just thought it was funny because since he wrote it wrong, it almost sounds like he is admitting he is racist. We are FAR to be racist. I still don't think it's helping making a point....bad grammar when it's not your language=retard? I don't think so. Racist views=retard, ok maybe you stick to that....that's what I think 'cause I could easily tell you to stfu 'cause I'm fluent in 3 languages but would that make your opinion on this issue worth less than mine? Completly unrelated. Don't use crums when you could easily go for the loaf. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 5:44am |
| Coolness: 145425 | oh yeah and I forgot to mention but, that could give others the impression of being a racist yourself so I'd stay away from that. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 5:48am |
| Coolness: 145425 | Originally posted by REPENTTOKYO...
if the policy discriminates equally, then they should not have singled out a particular ethnicity in their public statement. At the VERY least, there should be a public apology, at the VERY least in print media. Aria does not have the right to "protect it's patrons" by discriminating against an entire racial group. ARIA should seriously reconsider which staff members they allow to make public statements that represent their club. I totally agree and I know he wrote "black" but I think it was a slip of the tounge with whatever depth it had and he did try to take it back. I also agree that such a statement should have never been made but at this point, besides retracting it, what else can we suggess? The only thing would be a public apology and that is what we should be demanding at this point, on top of applying his security mesures to all races. I would just like to say that I would not like to be in his position because I would really be confused on what to do. I'd probably consider getting rid of the hiphop room but that could be considered discrimination as well as causing financial losses.....all I'm saying is that I'm not sure, like most of you, that they migth be taking the best decision but I don't have the right answer either but I know the problem and that something has to be done. What would you guys do? Seriously, maybe offering an alternative would be constructive....then again, that's if you care about Aria at all, some of you have never even stepped foot in there and would have never anyways. I still agree that there should be an apology stated towards the black community because I know what it is to live with a racial stereotype as a stigma and I'm sure as hell not a stereotype.....so imagine the actual real-life stereotypes who just wanna have clean fun?! hahaha sorry just a funny thought.....ok this post is waaaaaaaaaaay too long. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nter a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 6:01am |
 Coolness: 92500 | people get a little nuts around berrie metro |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 6:08am |
| Coolness: 145425 | I don't but yeah |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 9:34am |
 Coolness: 52435 | Originally posted by TOLTECH ...
Originally posted by elka...
Ya. I'm not from Quebec. I don't understand french. Anyway, I don't make a habit of making fun of people for not understanding languages or grammar. BUT this guy is an asshole. I just thought it was funny because since he wrote it wrong, it almost sounds like he is admitting he is racist. We are FAR to be racist. I still don't think it's helping making a point....bad grammar when it's not your language=retard? I don't think so. Racist views=retard, ok maybe you stick to that....that's what I think 'cause I could easily tell you to stfu 'cause I'm fluent in 3 languages but would that make your opinion on this issue worth less than mine? Completly unrelated. Don't use crums when you could easily go for the loaf. it was a cheap shot, so what? relax. its not like i'm picking on some kids grammar. He runs ARIA. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 9:36am |
| Coolness: 52435 | Originally posted by TOLTECH ...
oh yeah and I forgot to mention but, that could give others the impression of being a racist yourself so I'd stay away from that. Are you saying that me pointing out the grammar in that one sentence, just because it sounded like he was admitting he was being racist which i thought was amusing, gives people the impression of me being a racist? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 9:38am |
| Coolness: 52435 | Originally posted by TOLTECH ...
Originally posted by elka...
Ya. I'm not from Quebec. I don't understand french. Anyway, I don't make a habit of making fun of people for not understanding languages or grammar. BUT this guy is an asshole. I just thought it was funny because since he wrote it wrong, it almost sounds like he is admitting he is racist. We are FAR to be racist. I still don't think it's helping making a point....bad grammar when it's not your language=retard? I don't think so. Racist views=retard, ok maybe you stick to that....that's what I think 'cause I could easily tell you to stfu 'cause I'm fluent in 3 languages but would that make your opinion on this issue worth less than mine? Completly unrelated. Don't use crums when you could easily go for the loaf. By the way when did i ever say that bad grammar when its not your language = retard???!!? I never said anything like that. Nor do i think someones opinion is "worth less" if they don't speak the language fluently. I think you are reading WAY too into my statement. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Souldah a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 9:59am |
 Coolness: 48255 | omg my grammar im sorry i dont take the time too proof read like its some exam ppl.
and this is(NOTE THE NO CAPITAL AFTER THE PERIOD) a free society. FREE TO HATE AND NOT TO HATE. If you want to live in a free society you got too live with the bullshit too and omg DID YOU PPL JUST DISCRIMINATE AGAINST MY OPINION goddamn hypocrites |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Souldah a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 10:03am |
| Coolness: 48255 | I think people are taking this a little too serouisly sure theyre not allowing black people in.
if im with my black buddies i just wont go there. If im with friends that are restricted to go in i probably would even though i have never been to aria and never will go probably. Its just the fact that ur allowed to do what u want in this country. Its his property. Im not defending his choices. Im defending his ability to choose. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 10:38am |
 Coolness: 201230 | FREE TO HATE AND NOT TO HATE.
Hate speech and racism are illegal in Canada, wrong again. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 10:44am |
| Coolness: 52435 | Originally posted by SCOTTYP...
Hate speech and racism are illegal in Canada, *nods* Yup. You can't have any kkk marches in Canada. lol |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:05am |
 Coolness: 127770 | even if security was present its hard to break through 20 people...by the time they call for backup the job is done....was it a girl? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:24am |
| Coolness: 145425 | Originally posted by ELKA...
Originally posted by Toltech ...
oh yeah and I forgot to mention but, that could give others the impression of being a racist yourself so I'd stay away from that. Are you saying that me pointing out the grammar in that one sentence, just because it sounded like he was admitting he was being racist which i thought was amusing, gives people the impression of me being a racist? no, I'm saying because it looks like your making fun of the fact that he's not english or fluent in it....I am btw relaxed, I just thought you were serious, sorry. On another note, her runs Aria?! Why would that set your expectations of his english to your level? He runs Aria? I totally don't get it....I don't see the point. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:30am |
| Coolness: 145425 | Originally posted by ELKA...
Originally posted by Toltech ...
Originally posted by ELKA...
Ya. I'm not from Quebec. I don't understand french. Anyway, I don't make a habit of making fun of people for not understanding languages or grammar. BUT this guy is an asshole. I just thought it was funny because since he wrote it wrong, it almost sounds like he is admitting he is racist. We are FAR to be racist. I still don't think it's helping making a point....bad grammar when it's not your language=retard? I don't think so. Racist views=retard, ok maybe you stick to that....that's what I think 'cause I could easily tell you to stfu 'cause I'm fluent in 3 languages but would that make your opinion on this issue worth less than mine? Completly unrelated. Don't use crums when you could easily go for the loaf. By the way when did i ever say that bad grammar when its not your language = retard???!!? I never said anything like that. Nor do i think someones opinion is "worth less" if they don't speak the language fluently. I think you are reading WAY too into my statement. yeah I guess I did, I don't see the point of laughing at that.....I guess it was a very light comment that I should have just ignored but it's just that I got caught up in the whole "no blacks" thing I figured "you suck in english" was just as bad, sorry. Btw, I hope you all don't think I'm blindly advocating Aria's party here 'cause I still think he should apologised for his comment....I like going to Aria (when it's worth my time) but this is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth since I'm part black myself so it's kinda personal. Further more, a lot people assume that I listen to hiphop when they meet me hahaha so you know... We should get an apology. Seriously. P.S.: again, for security reasons, what do you guys think they should do. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:31am |
| Coolness: 52435 | What I meant was, like I posted before, I dont make a habit of making fun of people for their language/grammar or anything.
When I said he runs aria, i was making the point that, Its not like I go around making fun of quebecois kids or people who can't speak english "at my level", "OMG!! DID YOU HEAR HIM MISPRONOUNCE THAT WORD!?!?" I don't do that. I never EEEVVER make fun of people for that crap, especially since I am basically retarded at learning other languages. But I mean, he is the owner of Aria, he appears to be racist, and he is most likely connected to organized crime (i dont know?), so I took a jab at his bad grammar as a joke, not even because "english isn't his first language" but just becuase it sounded like he was admitting he was racist and it made me giggle. I am sorry if you think my comment was making fun of people who don't speak english as a first language, but that wasn't my intention. :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:34am |
| Coolness: 145425 | Originally posted by SCOTTYP...
FREE TO HATE AND NOT TO HATE.
Hate speech and racism are illegal in Canada, wrong again. more the reason why he should definitly apologise....I haven't seen any apology on Aria's behalf. All I've read is "our staff is made out of mostly non-whites". So what? Am I the only one to think that this just adds that you owe your own staff an apology on top of that? It's illegal to openly state such things, ok you fucked up and you probably never meant it but don't just retract it like you never said it. Apologise because you did say it. I think it's really sad that we'd actually ask for it. The apology should've logicaly followed once the comment was pointed out. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:35am |
| Coolness: 52435 | ya doesn't Aria have like a PR advisor or..something? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Toltech a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:40am |
| Coolness: 145425 | Originally posted by ELKA...
What I meant was, like I posted before, I dont make a habit of making fun of people for their language/grammar or anything. When I said he runs aria, i was making the point that, Its not like I go around making fun of quebecois kids or people who can't speak english "at my level", "OMG!! DID YOU HEAR HIM MISPRONOUNCE THAT WORD!?!?" I don't do that. I never EEEVVER make fun of people for that crap, especially since I am basically retarded at learning other languages. But I mean, he is the owner of Aria, he appears to be racist, and he is most likely connected to organized crime (i dont know?), so I took a jab at his bad grammar as a joke, not even because "english isn't his first language" but just becuase it sounded like he was admitting he was racist and it made me giggle. I am sorry if you think my comment was making fun of people who don't speak english as a first language, but that wasn't my intention. :) wow, sorry you are so right hahaha! His bad syntax did make it sound like he wrote "I am definitly a racist" hehehe  I feel like a sad case now....I'm not the type to be anal and without a sense of humour at all but this thread got me all serious for some reason....I hate my self right now....and all of the ones like me....I would forbit my kind entrance to my club but then again, how will I run it? hehehe imagine self-hating in this case? just another funny thought....ok sorry guys, I'm on anti biotics that are giving me side effects. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Souldah a répondu le Thu 27 Oct, 2005 @ 11:41am |
| Coolness: 48255 | scotty its illegal in public places not in private area's such as a a board room or something or hall its legal. O and my friend in secruity says that most clubs do it. When alot of black people show up they close the doors and also cops only show for haitian parties and black parties.
Unfortunatly this is true. For a reason. Once theyre in it isnt voilent but they try to sneak in alot of weapons. O and you actually allowed to have hate speeches in canada as long as u have it sanctioned and you pay the proper fee. The only by-law is that it has too be in english and french |
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