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Wtf Is Up With The Crack Smoking?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 11:51am
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i know its ice not crack but wtf is up with that?
whats your next step? needleS?
heahae good luck
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 11:52am
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People like to go nutz....and destroy themselves....
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Unknown User a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 11:57am
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i am a bag.

you are judgemental.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Optimist_pRhyme a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 12:17pm
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we're all judgemental.
how many times do you refer to people as crack heads? which is demeaning those poor innocent crack smokers. everyone is free to choose how they want to destroy their bodies...
be it alcohol, pot, caffiene, nicotine, k, ice, or crack, its still their choice.

but all of us are free to have our own opinions.

im sure most of us can agree that huffing paint fumes is retarded. but im sure the paint fume huffers would disagree.

personally, i think ice/crack is worse.

at least people who huff paint fumes only hurt themselves.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 1:02pm
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tahts why i always say
DRUGS = BAD
and,
DON'T DO DRUGS....... YOU DUMBFUCKING IDIOT
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» quanneur a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 2:29pm
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what's just as bad for you as the crystal itself is the huge amounts of time you go without sleeping and eating. THAT is bad for you. in fact there's not much worse you can do to your body.

i enjoy sleep too much. and i really, really like to eat. hence crystal and ice are not for me.

..the couple times i've used ice lately i've honestly felt like i've scrubbed a piece of my brain clean. I've felt like I've had to relearn things. I'm in a computer science program that is very demanding and in the days following my experiences I found myself unable to remember and understand simple formulas and notation. in fact, I even found that hand writing was more difficult. I value what little intelligence I have, so again, crystal is not for me. and i won't repeat my previous mistake.

I'm from vancouver, where crystal and ice have been popular for years. many people consider crystal to have destroyed the rave scene there. it's common to meet kids skinny as all hell with sores all over their faces that claim not to have slept in 10+ days and eaten in 3 or 4.

some of my closest friends are smoking crystal now. they are intelligent people and I give them the benefit of the doubt. I do not judge them. they can handle themselves. i'm not bothered by the fact that they smoke crystal, save for the times where they become a little too edgy, anxious and paranoid.

but i do know what crystal can do. and i do know that like most addictions, it creeps up on you. and I know that the toll it takes is very unforgiving. and I've witnessed patterns of use from these people that I've seen many times before. so I'd be lying it I tried to tell you that I'm not a little bit worried.

anyway......

and in general, drugs =/= bad... that's a very naive thing to say (that all drugs are bad). even crystal can be used recreationally over the longterm by some people. not many, mind you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cloak a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 2:57pm
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i totally hear you, 'cos i met so many of these skinny corpse-looking kids back in bc.
"what's up? i'm dylan, and i haven't slept in 6 days."

all the people i know that have been meth-heads before are now either paranoid or schizo or both.

when i came back to montreal, a few weeks ago, i was really disapointed to find some of my good friends as crackheads. i've been offered crack so many times before, i just don't think it's worth it. it's not about tripping anymore.

if any drug becomes a routine, cut it off.
don't be stupid enough to be dependent to a bunch of money making dealers.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 3:19pm
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i know not eating and sleeping os bad for you but after 2 days i feel so much less fat. i hate not sleeping tho that is annoying. but i am pretty sure not eating for 2 days can't be a good thing.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» daFTWin a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 4:32pm
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It deteriorates ur calcium.. and ur muscles, after long enough you loose the enamel on your teeth ect...

I said no to crystal/ice for a long time and recently gave it a try, like I do with alot of things. The thing that no one seems to realize is that I won't let it take me over, like with pcp I did it for a period of time then just stopped. Everytime since then thats its been offered to me I dont even consider it. Everyone has the will power to say no. No matter how dirty I may find a drug someone does Im never going to state my opinion to them in a negative way. I hate it when people do that, even if its out of concern. Its my body. But crystal is super addictive.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 6:02pm
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Werd Kaf ! Have a good week-end,i'm computer-less from now.Bye bye
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 6:23pm
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kafwin, obviously i dont know u, but I take issue with some of the things you said. don't think my comments are directed towards you at all, they're just some of my thoughts...

First of all, I doubt anyone that is currently in rehab or had their life badly affected by drugs thought to themeselves when they first took the drug, "I'm gonna take this drug and fuck my life up". Of course not, anyone who's ever taken a drug thinks they'll be able to control it. And in the end many of these people will be able to control their use, others won't. But I think it's difficult to know in advance because you only know whether or not your addicted to a drug once problems start.

Secondly, I think that by someone saying they don't want anyone expressing concern for drug use is almost like saying they don't want anyone to care about them. If I were to fall on the street and break my leg, I'd expect my friends to help me because they're supposed to care about me. Similarly, if I was doing something which my friends saw as self-destructive, whether its drug use or anything else, I'd expect those that care about me to say something. In fact, if they didn't, I'd take it as an indication that they didn't care about me.

Anyways, these are just my thoughts, feel free to take issue with anything I've said.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» quanneur a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 6:26pm
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totally agree with you, kaf!
one of the most horrible things about the scene in vancouver is that many of the jibtechs are despised, hated and ostracized by the less cracky people simply because of their drug use. (and i say only "less cracky" because some of these morons do all sorts of other drugs up the yin yang but have issues with crystal.. silly double standard) it's created this huge rift in the scene there and so much hate. i feel sorry for people that fall into the trap of thinking that way because it means that they miss out on the friendship of a lot of good people.

my stance on all this crystal business right now is -. ..nothing, really. i'm certainly not going to judge anyone for doing it. at the same time, when i see people falling into self-destructive cycles of smoking during the week and going on 4 or 5 day long sleepless binges regularly then I can't help but worry a bit because of what i've seen in the past.. but still i'm not going to abandon these people. if they start stealing from me or getting seriously paranoid on my ass then it's over, though, and they can come find me if and when they make it out of the funk

and i do know people that keep their use to just weekends and at a recreational level. there was a period when i lived in van where i'd do a point or two of crystal every weekend to keep me awake through the rave and it always stayed at that. not everyone turns into a jib crazed maniac
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» daFTWin a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 7:11pm
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"Not everyone turns intoa jib crazed maniac".. THANK YOU!!..

To dan, I totally agree with you saying people dont do drugs to end up in rehab, but some people do have more addictive personalities, which in that case should care enough about themselves not to do drugs to often but, as I have been stressing to prove this alot lately is that everyone had the choice to say no. Its as simple as that.. having friends care about you and have concern for you is one thing but YOU should care about yourself more then anything and be concerned. If I feel that my use of a drug is getting out of hand I stop and tell my friends I've stopped either completly or to recreational use and to remind me that ive stopped, not to stop me from doing it just to remind me. That way I remind my self that I should care more about my body then a craving.

Did you know a craving only lasts 15 minutes if you don't think about it.

And richard, I totally agree with you.
Alot of people do ALOT of drugs at a recriational level and they never get shit on. Why?

Just keep in mind for every speed you take you take a little crystal.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 7:27pm
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that's right, not everyone who takes jib is addicted to it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» da_instagatah a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 9:32pm
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shut up olee im gonna stab you when you get back in your house for psoting this.

thats for leaving me alone in your house.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zeldaissocool a répondu le Fri 29 Nov, 2002 @ 11:36pm
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is there a difference between railing it and smoking it?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Sat 30 Nov, 2002 @ 12:43am
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like I said, I am a responsable heroin user
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt a répondu le Sat 30 Nov, 2002 @ 3:44am
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the difference between railing it and smoking it is pretty much which part of your body you want to damage. your lungs or your nose? up to you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY a répondu le Sat 30 Nov, 2002 @ 4:15am
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here is a good article about speed/meth within the context of our society & culture, an interesting read

[ www.erowid.org ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» daFTWin a répondu le Sat 30 Nov, 2002 @ 5:08am
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Smoking it is also more addictive, but I guess if railling it wasn't as gross as it is it might not be less addictive.. I think railling it gives you a different buzz to.
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