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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Fri 15 Oct, 2004 @ 9:40pm
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when I had an asthma attack when I was a kid and they gave me some drugs at the hospital that helped me breathe again
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Fri 15 Oct, 2004 @ 9:45pm
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why do people who are clearly anti drug have to come along and pull a weinner act to ruin your drug thread, is it just for contrast?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Sat 16 Oct, 2004 @ 10:58am
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Hey that was a drug experience! A rather good one. But who says I am anti-drug? Just because I'm not a junkie speed freak doesn't mean I am against ALL drugs. How often do you hear me bash hallucinogens???

You should rename this thread "BEST JUNKIE SPEED FREAK EXPERIENCE".

YOU THIS ONE TIME I WAS FUCKING TWEAKING FOR 4 DAYS AND LIKE, I SAW GOD. BUT THEN I REALIZED LATER THAT GOD WAS JUST A SCAB ON MY ARM.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Sat 16 Oct, 2004 @ 2:56pm
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how obscene
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Miss_Amanda a répondu le Sat 16 Oct, 2004 @ 9:39pm
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haha i love scott
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Mon 18 Oct, 2004 @ 10:13am
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Contrast? ney i think not... reality.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN a répondu le Mon 18 Oct, 2004 @ 12:39pm
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Violence Inc....

Contrast? ney i think not... reality.

God asked me to pray for you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Mon 18 Oct, 2004 @ 2:41pm
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I already spoke to God, he says there is hope for me, but he says you junkies are fucked.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Mon 18 Oct, 2004 @ 3:45pm
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I heard you wear revealing t-shirts
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Mon 18 Oct, 2004 @ 4:19pm
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God tells me you touch yourself to thoughts of sarah
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Mon 18 Oct, 2004 @ 5:54pm
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no I just want her to feed me
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY a répondu le Tue 19 Oct, 2004 @ 3:56am
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Originally posted by BASDINI...

why do people who are clearly anti drug have to come along and pull a weinner act to ruin your drug thread, is it just for contrast?


These aren't anti-drug people posting in this thread, these are former drug users. Theres a difference. Anti-drug people try to convince others that drugs are bad. Former drug users try to convince themselves that drugs are bad.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Tue 19 Oct, 2004 @ 12:38pm
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I do regret ever wasting a penny, brain cells and time with the lack of consciousness administered by drug use, though unlike anti drug zealots, former users have the contrast to understand the gravity situation. Dan are you trying to tell me drugs, a foggy mind and self deluded delusions of reality an in some way beneficial to the human brain or perhaps the human soul? Dan, have you ever watch someone in withdrawal? If so, then I have no idea how you can ever utter how drugs aren’t bad. Now I’ll admit that some drugs perhaps can be somewhat enlightening such as ayahuasca plant... but that is on a religious tribal level. I doubt huffing nitrous or injecting sedatives muscularly is in any means psycho social biological electromagnetic augmentation of the synaptic responses to cause higher brain functions past a molecular level. I need not convince myself drugs are a horrid creation, I know they are.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» daFTWin a répondu le Tue 19 Oct, 2004 @ 7:13pm
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Have YOU actually ever seen someone go through withdrawal?

You obviously undermine the power of addiction.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» wisp a répondu le Tue 19 Oct, 2004 @ 7:16pm
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oh, snap.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Tue 19 Oct, 2004 @ 8:35pm
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well everyone claimed they chose to do drugs and could quit whenever they want, so I don't get this withdrawal thing that might come up :D
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Tue 19 Oct, 2004 @ 11:52pm
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i just don't get it, why do people have to rain on my parade, all you ever seem to say is that continued drug use will lead to eventual bad and unwanted consequences, despite the "success" (good relationship with my GF, doing well in school, and my general sense of wellbeing and happiness with myself & situation)in life somehow I'm still headed for meltdown(and only then will i see the errors of my ways) according to you guys,

could it be possible that someone(s) could have their life together and also be able to do drugs in a responsible manner condusive to the good relations and true happiness

drugs are entertainment for a society that has far to much leissure time than it knows what to do with, people who take drugs are not evil or dangerous just bored so stop hating on them
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» daFTWin a répondu le Wed 20 Oct, 2004 @ 12:28am
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hey, im not speaking for myself. I've alway been able to stop.

BUT, jeff seems to think its so easy to stop drugs AND just the sight of seeing someone go through withdrawal should be enough to make someone stop doing drugs... bullshit.
Sorry jeff but thats the stupidest thing i've ever heard.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY a répondu le Wed 20 Oct, 2004 @ 7:55am
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Jeff, please don't take anything I've said as a critisicm of your decision to abstain from drugs. If you feel the negatives of your drug use have outweighed the positives, than of course, stop!

But blaming or passing judgement on substances ignores the truth that drugs require a user, and the outcome of drug use depends much more on the relationship between the drug and the personality of the user than on simply the drug itself. How else can you explain why some people are able to drink sociably while others fall into alcohlism? Surely this depends more on the way in which alcohol is used, rather than on any innate characteristic of alcohol itself.

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....

I do regret ever wasting a penny, brain cells and time with the lack of consciousness administered by drug use,


No one is telling you to keep taking drugs.

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....
though unlike anti drug zealots, former users have the contrast to understand the gravity situation.


All you have to go by is your own personal experience. If that experience has been negative, than of course you'll see drugs as negative. If that experience has been positive, than you'll see drugs as positive. But to condemn people for their use of drugs (or the opposite, to proselytize the use of drugs) based solely on one's own experience is based on the faulty assumption that others will have identical experiences to your own.

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....
Dan are you trying to tell me drugs, a foggy mind and self deluded delusions of reality an in some way beneficial to the human brain or perhaps the human soul?


I think psychedelics, when used properly and within an appropriate context, are one of the most potentially valuable tools that humans have at their disposable. There are currently clinical studies being conducted involving both the use of MDMA in the theruputic treatment of trauma, and the use of psylocibin in preparing terminal patients for their deaths. This is in addition to many promising studies on psychedelics carried out in the 50's and 60s. Our exploration of psychedelics is still at a relatively undeveloped stage, in large part due to draconian anti drug laws, but this is changing.

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....
Dan, have you ever watch someone in withdrawal? If so, then I have no idea how you can ever utter how drugs aren’t bad.


Since you asked, yes I've seen someone in heroin withdrawal, been ordered by a paranoid crack addict to keep checking an empty hallway to make sure no one was there, and been mugged with a baseball bat by an addict to pay for drugs (all on the same night!). And I certainly beleive that those individuals were engaging in harmful drug use (probably stemming from underlying issues) and its certainly made me approach drugs with the caution and respect that they deserve. So while I've been smoking opium lately, I alternate 2-3 days of use with breaks of at least 2 weeks, in order to prevent the building of tolerance and habituation.

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....
Now I’ll admit that some drugs perhaps can be somewhat enlightening such as ayahuasca plant...


YES!! One for the drug fiends!

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....
but that is on a religious tribal level.


I agree, and I beleive that one of the great defects of our society is the lack of a proper social context for using psychedelics. The indigenous cultures realised the amazing potential of entheogens such as ayahuasca, mushrooms, and peyote, and thus developed appropriate frameworks for the use of these sacraments. When will we do the same?

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....
I doubt huffing nitrous or injecting sedatives muscularly is in any means psycho social biological electromagnetic augmentation of the synaptic responses to cause higher brain functions past a molecular level.


Since I don't have the slightest clue what you mean in the last half of that sentence, I'll just leave it at saying that if you've ever wanted to know what frozen time feels like, do a hit of nitrous on mush.

Originally posted by VIOLENCE INC....
I need not convince myself drugs are a horrid creation, I know they are.


Get in touch with God then and ask him what the hell he was thinking when he made mushrooms, peyote, tobacco, coca leaves, and the opium crop. I'd love to get an answer from the man himself!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Wed 20 Oct, 2004 @ 3:08pm
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You and your patriarchal method of think pshhh lol

katie I have and i never said seeing someone who viewed such a thing would immediately abstain from drugs. You misunderstood my point, my reasoning behind that is speaking the reason why i am against drugs. I watched 3 years of my life fall apart 9never once thinking I had a real problem), and well i've watched a bunch of others fall. My whole argument against Dan, who i respect very much, always have, is that one shouldn’t attempt to glorify drugs.

Dan personal I think that drug use in tribal setting is mostly lost, minus the small clusters that remain in the world today, mainly due the death of the shaman. Dan, have you ever read the cosmic serpent? I think you should pick it up interesting read.
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