such a rush!
and the gunsnroses was too perfect

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George Clinton, this one friend from high school (Stephy Wiss), Zaphod Beeblebrox

[ www.di.fm ]

Wevie Stonder = Drawing on other peoples' heads

you like it or you don't, but for me, it keeps me going. everything about hhc sounds cheesy, especially people talking about how much they like it, but i sing happy anthems while i'm at work, i wake up to it in the morning to get me going, hhc makes me happy to be alive, it makes e redundant. What i love too about it is that yes, it's cheesy and ridiculous, but proudly so, unlike, say, electro or trance, which are super cheesy but try to act like they're sexy or deep or something. HHC is just dance and smile til you drop.

so much fun! Yes, loved the deco, and matricks and tipsy played SUCH a good set. The hardcore set right before was brilliant too. Everything was great, really. Ouai, c'etais un petit-peu trop trancy parfois, mais avec tous l'happy dans mon sange, c'etais bonne pour moi. Merci Flakie et Tipsy!!!

j'apporte des feux d'artifices!

fuck, pot holes need to be shot! and cops too! and homophobes!!! death to everything that tries to hurt my bike and i, as if we could be seperated...

j'aime toi!

anyways, this is going to rave n roll-- i even have idm friends who are coming to this ridiculousness!

fuck that, cut his dick off and stich it to his fuckin forehead!

the biggest problem i have with cops is how much they can get away with. They kill people, beat people, steal and deal, and we only rarely ever hear about any of them being punished in anyway, even less about them doing time or about the state working to repair the damage they've committed. And it's because they have so much unquestionable power, so they can do whatever they want without any consequences. It's true, like some of you have been saying, that it depends on the individual cop, but i don't feel safe that there's a system which gives these individuals so much power without any way of being accountable to the people whose lives they affect. Like it's been said, they're basically just the largest gang in the country, because they're armed and protected by the government.
I think we can run security and take care of things for ourselves, without the police, but that we need to work on and practice it. Do you really think cops would beat on one of their neighbors if they knew that people who lived next door could burn their house down if they step out of line?

tu peux etre une gai honorifique

I was at the demo, but left about two minutes before all the shit happened above Sherbrooke, lucky me. People were a little too rowdy for my tastes, but i understand street kids being pissed off and wanting to have one day when they can all scream it out together.
There is so much police brutality here, flo, on a daily basis. And just a couple months ago they shot [ www.caircan.ca ] Mohamed dead for no other reason than the color of his skin. Police here are fuckers, like anyplace else, though i'm happy for you that they've treated you well so far.
[ ] Collectif Opposé à la Brutalité Policière
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So then by "homies" you mean "those who listen to Tupac"? I listen to Tupac, but being a white dude i'd never try calling myself or anyone else a homie. I could sure point out plenty of crackers on this forum, though.
The thing in my ass is a dildo, and i like it there, thank you very much.
The reason i hate your joke is that it doesn't seem like you know what you're talking about, especially by making a really morbid joke about gays and AIDS. There is nothing at all funny about stereotyping all homos as having HIV, or about queer bashing. These are facts of life that some of us have to deal with, and so maybe with some effort you can understand why i might find you joking about them offensive.
I wouldn't get near your ass if you begged.

what do you mean by "homies"?
And have you ever actually seen this?
And i love the AIDS joke in your profile. It's so funny the way HIV is killing so many people, including my friends and family.
Ha.
Ha.
Ha.
AAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!


But i digress...
I've never dressed super-sweet candy, but Ms. Flakie has promised to help me out for Miam Miam. I think anything that makes the party more fun without offending someone or making people feel unsafe is great, and it's especially good when people put lots of energy into preparing for a party, because then they bring that energy with them to the space and are far more engaged. Tourists are boring, participants are party.

happy hardcore always makes me think of anal sex, being the most homosexual music since disco and all.
But anyways, this party's going to be so much fun, with or without hook-ups. I want to echo that there needs to be a weekly happy night, cuz i can't handle this 1-2 times a month nonsense. J'ai besoins de ma médecine, tabarnak!

yeah, but it's so worth it

or else people could accept her criticism and try treating each other with respect

i can't sleep for days after a couple of lines of baby

this'll be a great night...always is!
solid state is going to be incredible!
i'll be coming right after this event at the SAT


[english below]

MERCREDI, 8 mars 2006 :: Upgrade Montréal :: Remix : Voix de femmes autochtones

19h - Gratuit

Remix : Voix de femmes autochtones :: une manifestation artistique contre la violence pour célébrer la Journée internationale des femmes.

Une co-présentation Upgrade Montréal, Femmes autochtones du Québec, Studio XX et terminus1525.

Upgrade est une organisation autonome, internationale et rhizomique de rendez-vous mensuels pour la culture numérique et les arts technologiques et s'inscrit dans un réseau plus large de conférences initiés à New York en 1999 qui compte maintenant des chapitres locaux à Boston, Chicago, Munich, Oklahoma City, Séoul, Tel Aviv, Sophia, Toronto et Vancouver et en Écosse.

Upgrade Montréal est accueilli et produit par la SAT depuis sa création en 2004.

Plus d'info à :
[ theupgrade.sat.qc.ca ]
[ www.studioxx.org ]
[ www.faq-qnw.org ]
[ www.terminus1525.ca ]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>

WEDNESDAY, 8th March 2006 :: Upgrade Montreal :: Remix : Voices of Aboriginal Women

7pm - Free admission

Remix: Voices of Aboriginal Women : Artists Demonstrating Against Violence in Celebration of International Women's Day

A co-presentation Upgrade Montréal, Femmes autochtones du Québec, Studio XX and terminus1525.

Upgrade is an autonomous, international and grassroots organisation of monthly gatherings for digital culture and the technology arts. It is part of a larger network of conferences initiated in New York City in 1999 with local chapters in Boston, Chicago, Munich, Oklahoma City, Seoul, Tel Aviv, Sophia, Toronto & Vancouver as well as in Scotland.

The SAT is hosting and producing Upgrade Montreal since its creation in 2004.

More info:
[ theupgrade.sat.qc.ca ]
[ www.studioxx.org ]
[ www.faq-qnw.org ]
[ www.terminus1525.ca ]

and there's lots of people raised by just one parent.
j'pense que nous apprenons le genre de nos communautes et pas seulement de le(s) parent(s)

love the top flyer!

totally.
cops are there to keep us safe and hand out baseball cards. anyways,
the point is they don't have the right to come into parties without a warrant or to shutdown a party without a warrant.

i will never ever step foot in that place again.
Station C has fucked me for the last time. They always let cops in to search people, and the last time they said they were going til 5am they shut down at 3 as per normal, ridiculously right after some cheesy house song with the hook "would you go to war for house music?"!
I just tried getting into nuit blanche, and they weren't letting people in, even people who had tickets! They said the police said there were too many people and so they had to wait. Like i'm going to wait outside in the middle of a winter night!
Then like seven cops walked out and towards this whole line of cop vans parked next to the place. I don't know if that place has business with the city or with the angels, but there are always cops there, and they ALWAYS let them in. I might have actually waited cuz it looked like an amazing show, but the woman came out and said there were cops everywhere, so fuck that!
Hello, it's called [ www.google.ca ] culture, and it means that we don't let cops into our parties, because we know they can arrest and fuck with us.
IF YOU LET COPS INTO A PARTY, YOU ARE A COP-OUT AND MAKE IT UNSAFE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME!
[ ] What?! We've Got Rights! This is a short zine that talks about all the obligations that the law has in dealing with people, and it tells about how the cops can behave and what kind of information we have to tell them. People fought for decades to get these rights, and if we don't continue to demand them, they will get forgotten, nodoubt.
We sure as fuck don't need to let them into our parties without a warrant! If they want to come in, fuck them, they can get a warrant saying that there is proof of a specific crime being committed by a specific person on the premises. If they complain about noise, i say turn it down until they leave, and if they give a ticket, fight it. I know it's time, but get back to me if you need to find a lawyer, cuz there's lots of radical lawyers in mtl that will fight for cheap because they know that these cases address the needs of all of us.
If you decide to let the cops in, fucking announce it so that people know, you know? It's not against the law to say that the police are coming in, and it makes it safer for us.
Look out for the community, rave safe in more than one way.

candy is dandy!

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back off man, you sound like a stalker. if she's telling you she doesn't want you around, listen. it's not up to you to dictate what another person can or cannot do. RESPECT peoples' boundaries, or you're asking to be hurt.

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/\> Nous sommes 4, cherchons un 5em colloc (pour Français voir plus bas)
-=- We are a house of 4 looking for a 5th
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-a laid back collective house, queer-postive
-almost on the corner of ontario and delorimer, so village,
centre-sud, hochelaga-maisoneuve area.
-three blocks from papineau metro
-beautiful 12 1/2 ground floor with a decent amount of light. we have
a huge kitchen and living room and a basement with a operational
sewing studio and a half operational art studio. exposed brick, high
ceilings.
-there are rooms for 5 people to live here, right now we are 4 and are
looking for a fifth
-the avaliable room is a decent medium sized room for $230 a month
plus bills which is about $30 a month for hydro and $15-20 for phone
and internet
-we have 1 cat and 1 dog
-our smoking rule is cigarette smoking in rooms only and only one
roomate smokes in her room, but there is chicha smoking in the common
space
-we have a collective food plan where we all
pay $60 a month and buy groceries together and share the food
-we speak english and french both (though a bit more english)
-we are looking for April

are you interested?
if yes,
send es an email at elegantstinkhorn@yahoo.ca
please tell us a bit about yourself and we'll contact you for an interview

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-un appart collectif, relax, et queer positif
-presque sur le coin de la rue Ontario et l'avenue de Lorimier, dans
le quartier centre-sud
-3 blocs du métro Papineau
-une belle appart, immense (12 1/2), 5 chambres avec abondance de
lumière. ya une cuisinie et un salon énorme, avec un sous-sol incluant
studio de couture opérationnel et un studio d'art. murs de briques,
plafonds hauts
-la chambre disponible est d'une grandeur moyenne pour $230 par mois
plus des factures d'environ $30/mois pour hydro et $15-20 pour le
téléphone et l'Internet. (nous avons tous une connection haute vitesse
dans chaque chambre).
-nous avons 1 chat et 1 chien
- notre règle de tabagisme c'est de fumer dans les chambres seulement,
et seulement une coloque fume dans sa chambre, mais nous fumons de la
chicha dans l'espace commun.
-nous avons un plan collectif de
nourriture où nous payons tous $60 par mois et achetons l'épicerie
ensemble, partageons la nourriture.
- nous parlons anglais et francais a l'appart. (un peu plus en anglais...)
- nous cherchons pour l'avril

êtes-vous intéressé?
si oui,
enyoyez-nous un email a elegantstinkhorn@yahoo.ca
et nous vous contacterons pour une entrevue
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best shows in town, i'm there for sure. et une boire gratuit! mais j'ai pas acheter quelque chose pour vous...

i was thinking more in terms of presence at parties, hoping that something a little more dynamic might replace trance, which i find way too formulaic, no matter how you spin it. I mean, hardtrance i can get down with, but you should have seen the people who were actually dancing weird abstract dance music, which, yes, i refer to as braindance. It seems like a better name to me than "intelligent dance music", which i find pretty pretentious.
2nd party, yes, for sure, since february hasn't even started yet.

this thread has so much potential

heterophobic with good reason!

Anyways, the party was a blast. Calling the party queer positive/anti-sexist seemed to work really well, for one because there was one hot dude wearing a pretty pink slip, and 2nd cuz there weren't any drunk jocks and the whole night went off without a hitch, besides one slightly sloppy k-hole.
The music was great. Ohio Spiko Wio started out and were playing a nice ambient jam, then Marcello put together a solid set of minimal house. DJ Luv played a longish set of house that got nice and hard here and there, followed finally by Phreeduh, who used that incredible sound system better than anyone else all night. She played ambience/noise, and with those quality of speakers (merci NTK!), the room was filled with beautiful and nasty soundscapes. And meek played a final set of braindance, which he obviously worked really well, since there were actually ravers and hardtek punks dancing to abstract music! Attention promoters: [ ] is the next trance, so get with it!
The decor was really nice too. If people know the basement of le Local, you know it's kind of low and cave-like already, but then moohk and meek covered the ceiling and walls with a giant white tarp that made it look like an arctic cave. For me, it made the whole place feel cozy and intimate, a nice safe setting.
Seemed like people were enjoying themselves, and even though there was no admission cost, there was a bar to cover the minimal costs. Free parties! Free parties!
L'equipe de Neurotik c'etait tres gentils aussi tout le soir. Elles/ils ont aider beaucoups avec le set-up, et sont sympathique a les concepts du "free party", techno a les peuples, et le batiment de la communaute. BIG UPS!

check the site for updates
[ ]

it probably means a different meek then. Check his website, eh? anyways...
it's going to be a really nice night, and heteros can come too, just not homophobes
though, if hets are making out, they might get hosed down, but it's not because we hate you. probably.

sorry about the last post. i actually just came back to try and delete it, but you get here first. i was kind of just pissed at moondancer for being so willfully ignorant, but i know that throwing up an angry post isn't going to do anything but make me feel better, which is, whatever, but it's not the point of this discussion.
For me, i'm not more worried about symbols being sold or not, i'm concerned that imperialist cultures (like the western kkkanadian/u$ culture) take these symbols and pretend that it's okay. To quickly answer moondancer's racist rant about christianity being only for whites (i don't care if it's sarcastic or not, it's racist), christianity is a religion that has spread through war. Christianity killed tens of millions of women in europe during the witch hunts, millions of jews during the inquisition, and tens of millions of indigenous people on these continents. Christianity was one of the weapons used at residential schools in canada, the us and australia to attack their cultures and assimilate their children into this euro-imperialist culture. There's so much history behind this, but it's not dead history, it's living history, because these patterns continue to this day. By whites using buddhas, mayan calendars, sweat ceremonies, etc., they are stealing these very sacred and important cultural signifiers INTO THEIR OWN CULTURE, making them a part of our culture without the permission of the people to whom these originally belong. I wish you could google "cultural appropriation" or "appropriation culturelle" and just read what people of color have to say about it.
Deep inside, yes, we are the same, but i don't see everyone as equal and neither does anyone else i've ever known. Prejudice and racism are real, and we just need to be aware of how we each manifest these and fight it inside of ourselves, as well as pointing out to each other when we unconsciously act inappropriately. I'll close with a phrase that has been a big part of my life the last couple of years:
constructive criticism is an act of love.

one love, crackers

I think what i'm getting from both trashandsuicide and goajña is that you feel like it is okay to use a spiritual practice that is not a part of your culture because and.
I have to disagree that it is okay for non-natives to practice Indigenous spiritual practices. As it says in the additional article i've included below,

Myself, i am not too familiar with spiritual practices in general, let alone any of the Indigenous religions, but i do have an eagle feather that was given to me, and i have been in a sweat ceremony. I would never display this feather, however, or talk at all about the ceremony i went through, because i wasn't given these things so that i could pretend i was an expert in them. goajña, i understand how meaningful it must be to you to have been taught how to make a dreamcatcher, but i don't think it's okay that you display them at parties, even if raves are spiritual for you, because dreamcatchers are part of a different different culture from yours.
It's similar to dreadlocks on white people. It now seems regular and okay for whites to nap up their hair, but they didn't start doing it until Bob Marley became famous and whites wanted to identify with him, raggae, and rastafarianism (an African pride religion). Dreadlocks used to mean something very powerful, and now they are a fashion statement. The same thing can be said for dreamcatchers. They are now all over the place--many cars now have them hanging from their mirrors. Even if their intentions are good, i think there are better ways to promote a positive atmosphere than by using spiritual objects from another culture. Particularly an Indigenous culture, since i see it as insulting to use their spiritual objects while at the same time stealing their land, resources and sovereignty.

Spiritual Commodification and Misappropriation

What Native People Want You To Understand
Compiled by Mariah Jones
[ www.sonomacountyfreepress.com ]

There is a disinformation campaign in progress in Sonoma County to undermine
Native peoples' nationwide efforts to protect their ceremonial processes from
abuse. The promulgators would have you believe that only a few "militant"
Indians are concerned about this exploitation by those who have no real
knowledge of the deep inner meaning inherent in these ceremonies. The truth is
that the overwhelming majority of Native people DO object to this phenomenon.

If you stand with Indian people, then you respect their moral right to decide
under which circumstances their ceremonies will be "shared" with non-Indians.
Please read the following statements by Native people. They are spiritual
leaders, authors, attorneys, anthropologists, scholars, activists, educators and
tribal leaders. Though they represent just a small percentage of those who have
spoken out on this issue, the concepts presented will give you some idea of the
perspective you are being asked to consider.

"What's at issue here is the same old question that Europeans have always posed
with regard to American Indians, whether what's ours isn't somehow theirs. And,
of course, they've always answered in the affirmative. Now, being spiritually
bankrupt themselves, they want our spirituality as well. So, they make up
rationalizations to explain why they're entitled to it."

Russell Means (Lakota) "The process is ultimately intended to supplant Indians,
even in areas of their own customs and spirituality. In the end, non-Indians
will have complete power to define what is and is not Indian, even for Indians.
When this happens, the last vestiges of real Indian society and Indian rights
will disappear. Non-Indians will then "own" our heritage and ideas as thoroughly
as they now claim to own our land and resources."

Pam Colorado (Oneida) "...On the other hand, the stereotypical and grossly
distortive work of Hyemeyohsts Storm, a man only marginally Indian, has earned
him the wrath of the Northern Cheyenne people with whom he claimed affiliation."


Wendy Rose (Hopi) "Do the names Sun Bear, Wallace Black Elk, Oh Shinna Fast
Wolf, Brook Medicine Eagle, Harley Reagan Swiftdeer, Buck Ghost Horse, or Mary
Thunder mean anything to you? Well, they should, because these pseudo-medicine
quacks are passing themselves off as Native American spiritual leaders. Native
American spirituality has become a fad to many New Age non-Indians and their
naivete is being exploited to the limit by plastic medicine people, much to the
dismay of traditional elders. Practicing Native American spirituality out of the
context of Native American culture diminishes the integrity of both.

Many of these people are actually Indians who are spreading false rituals for
profit. The rest are white men and women who claim to be Indian. For the most
part they have changed their names to Indian names to lend authenticity to their
flock.

One way to tell if these people are legitimate is whether they go into the
Native American communities they claim to be from and perform the same rituals."


l99l Turtle Island Project Newsletter Chairperson--Betty Cooper (Blackfeet)
"There are some obvious tip-offs for people interested in Indian customs and
ceremonies. One is simplistic vision quests. You can wait a whole lifetime for a
vision--these guys have visions about every week."

Avis Little Eagle (Lakota) "They want to become Indian without holding
themselves accountable to Indian communities. If they did, they would have to
listen to Indians telling them to stop carrying around sacred pipes...and to
stop appropriating our spiritual practices. Rather, these New Agers see Indians
as romanticized gurus who exist only to meet their consumerist needs...They
trivialize Native American practices so that these practices lose their
spiritual force....Their perceived need for warm and fuzzy mysticism takes
precedence over our need to survive."

Andy Smith (Cherokee) "The realities of Indian belief and existence have become
so misunderstood and distorted at this point that when a real Indian stands up
and speaks the truth at any given moment, he or she is not only unlikely to be
believed, but will probably be publicly contradicted and "corrected" by the
citation of some non-Indian and totally inaccurate "expert".

Vine Deloria, Jr. (Lakota) "These people have nothing to say on the matters they
claim to be so expert about. To whites, they claim they're "messengers", but
from whom? They are not the messengers of Indian people. I am a messenger and I
do not charge for my ceremonies."

Thomas Banyacya (Hopi) "We cannot prevent people from throwing their money away
on so-called "Indian Ceremonies", but we can challenge those who misuse our
sacred pipes, sweatlodges and ceremonies."

The Traditional Circle of Elders "Non-Indians have become so used to all this
hype on the part of impostors and liars that when a real Indian spiritual leader
tries to offer them useful advice, he is rejected. He isn't "Indian" enough for
all these non-Indian experts on Indian religion.

Now, this is not only degrading to Indian people, it's downright delusional
behavior...We've got real problems today, tremendous problems which threaten the
survival of the planet. Indians and non-Indians must confront these problems
together,...but this dialogue is impossible so long as non-Indians remain
deluded about things as basic as Indian spirituality."

Chief Oren Lyons (Onondaga) "What about the quest for Native spirituality? It is
mostly ESCAPIST, and people like Lynn Andrews, and other would-be shamans would
rather look to an ideal, romanticized "Native" living in never-never land than
confront the reality of what being Native means in this society.

Our elders and traditional teachers want to share the beauty of Native cultures,
the Native way. But appropriation is not sharing. Appropriation exploits and
commercializes Native cultures, and is harmful to innocent people."

Lenore Keeshig-Tobias (Ojibwe) "Not Just Entertainment" Whole Earth Review '91
"Each tribe has their own unique ways which only they can fully
understand...each tribe has their own sacred ceremonies, songs, dances and
prayers which form their own tribal religious ways. These come from each tribe's
history, science, environment and all the things which make up our different
cultures. I am Ponca because of over l0,000 years of intermingling the lives,
blood and history of my tribe upon Ponca land. Every movement and action is
blessed with a meaning handed down by generations of ancestors and held within
our tribal memory.

I say these things because I want to warn people about some bad things happening
to traditional ways. All across Indian country, in every city and state, white
people are commercializing Lakota ceremonies. Our ways cannot be bought and sold
like bibles. No knowledge, no science, no language, no culture is involved in
their pitiful mockery of traditional ways.

They actually believe that by singing or drumming the right song, they are doing
something Indian. Medicine equals magic to them. Their ignorance is an insult to
even the very simplest of our ceremonies, but their white arrogance leads them
to believe they can learn in a week what an Indian learns in many lifetimes.

It is time we who value old ways begin to explain to our non-Indian guests that
our basic philosophy of respect for the circle of life is open to the
understanding of all races. But if our tribal ceremonies are to survive with
meaning and dignity for our children, we must explain to the wasoci that it is
not necessary for them to pretend to be Indian to understand the nature of the
circle. How can Lakota children find the same respect for tribal ways our
grandfathers handed down to us if hundreds of these pitiful ones are out waving
Pipes, pouring water, singing songs learned from cassettes and whipping a drum?

Carter Camp (Ponca) Lakota Times "...Those of the New Age have proven themselves
willing to disregard the right of American Indians to a modicum of cultural
sanctity or psychological sanctity. They too, willfully and consistently
disregard the protests and objections of their victims, speaking only of their
own "right to know" and to victimize. They too, have persistently shown
themselves willing to lie, distort, fabricate, cheat and steal in order to
accomplish their agenda. Why? The answers are as simple as the fact that they
are here and that they fully plan to stay. While the New Age can hardly be
accused rationally of performing the conquest of the Americas, and its adherents
go to great lengths in expressing their dismay at their methods used therein,
they have clearly inherited what their ancestors gained by conquest, both in
terms of resources and in terms of relative power.

The New Agers, for all their protestations to the contrary, aren't about to give
up any power. It is a somewhat tricky psychological project to be able to "feel
good about themselves" through "legitimizing" the maintenance of their own
colonial privilege.

The invaders' "contributions", however invented they may be, inevitably
"entitle" them to superior status; there may have been a problem once, but it's
in the past so forget it; we're all in this together now, so let's move forward
(with me in the lead); I'm OK, you"re OK (so long as you stay in your place and
don't upset me with questions of, or challenges to my privilege)"

Ward Churchill (Creek/Cherokee Metis) Fantasies of the Master Race, l992 "This
process of white dabbling in American Indian spiritual rituals represents the
ultimate absorption. Native American spirituality becomes a commodity in the
Euroamerican market place, to be bought and sold alongside other "New Age"
items."

M. Annette Jaimes (Juaneno/Yaqui) "I'm just tired of people going around
representing themselves as healers and medicine people. We hear of it all the
time, and no one is bothering to check their credibility or credentials."