Javascript Help
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Wed Sep 24, 2003 @ 8:27pm |
 Coolness: 2604115 | I need to be able to select multiple items in a SELECT box but I don't want people to have to press CONTROL to be able to do this... I want them to click and if it's not selected it will select and if it's selected it will deselect...
Any Ideas??? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 24, 2003 @ 8:27pm |
 Coolness: 339795 | haha still haven't found it? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Sep 24, 2003 @ 8:40pm |
 Coolness: 685720 | Just go web-page raping. I think [ MP3.com ] uses that somewhere when you sign up. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Wed Sep 24, 2003 @ 11:23pm |
| Coolness: 2604115 | If you could find me a page like that it would be appreciated... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Sep 25, 2003 @ 1:20pm |
| Coolness: 339795 | noah = laaaaaaaaaazy |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Thu Sep 25, 2003 @ 2:21pm |
 Coolness: 66645 | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Sep 25, 2003 @ 3:09pm |
| Coolness: 339795 | the way you push that site you'd think you were one of the authors. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Sep 25, 2003 @ 3:11pm |
| Coolness: 685720 | *goes to see if he can order negative knishes from [ w3school.com ] |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Thu Sep 25, 2003 @ 3:12pm |
| Coolness: 2604115 | I already figured it out without that website... Do they even have the answer there? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Thu Sep 25, 2003 @ 3:26pm |
| Coolness: 66645 | noah
[ www.w3schools.com ] is made by the people who create web standards (W3C). Trust me, they have the answer to every single HTML, XML, CSS and JavaScript question you can think of. the way you push that site you'd think you were one of the authors. Go to the site and learn something since you have a completely wrong idea of what HTML is supposed to do. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» lakester replied on Thu Sep 25, 2003 @ 4:40pm |
 Coolness: 59810 | i think that site is incredible... thanks for the link. until now, i've been using [ www.htmlgoodies.com ] whenever i need to learn something.
i looked through the tutorials on that site and i didn't find anything baout what noah was looking for though. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 1:33am |
| Coolness: 339795 | oh yeah, i have no idea what html is supposed to do, all this time i've been making cakes and not websites.
I've been designing websites for 9 years, how long have you been doing it? You really see yourself as being this superior mind when it comes to coding, well thats real good, keep up the good work of keeping current with the newest vaporware standards and spend no actual time making anything with all this knowledge, with exception to telling people how badly their doing things, and when they ask you to explain you respond with RTFM, how very helpfull you are. Your existence is certainly justified. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:24am |
| Coolness: 66645 | ok mr neoform.
What is the purpose of HTML then? What is its primary role? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:25am |
| Coolness: 66645 | and on a side note, this purpose was discovered a long long time ago, circa IE 3.0. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» lakester replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 8:48am |
| Coolness: 59810 | making cakes... gold! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 1:13pm |
| Coolness: 339795 | HTML a specific way of using tags to convey information about a document.
if you have some other definition then you don't even have a mind of your own, and are just basing everything you say on what other people have told you. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 2:23pm |
| Coolness: 2604115 | I agree with neoform...
1) The answer is not on the site... 2) There is no search on the site ehehe... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:27pm |
| Coolness: 66645 | HTML a specific way of using tags to convey information about a document. if you have some other definition then you don't even have a mind of your own, and are just basing everything you say on what other people have told you. HTML is a markup language to define structure. CSS is a language to define layout and presentation of content. XML is a markup language to define data (basically, a protocol using markup language). This has nothing to do with "having a mind of my own". This isn't art, this is technology. Technology follows standards and not following standards is a no-no. There are reasons why these standards exist. Heck, if I still used tabular layouts, I would be going insane. I appreciate the OOP method of coding, and using DIVs instead of tables is as close to OOP as HTML will get. Content management has never been easier. Skinnable websites are also made 500% easier when you eliminate tables, font tags, and all other sort of content definition from HTML and keep it in CSS. You can in essance (not in theory) take one website done completely in CSS, change the CSS file, and have a whole brand new website. Its a bit tough now, but soon the IMG tag will be a thing of the past, replaced by the OBJECT tag, and that will make life so much easier as well. Just use CSS to change the SRC and TYPE attributes of the OBJECT tag and voila. Also, now with the advent of XHTML, any website that adheres to XHTML Strict standards can be parsed as an XML document, making content easily transportable across severeal different websites. Extremely beneficial for enterprise level solutions where a company would run five websites selling different things but would want to advertise on the products from each website on each website. Yet another benefit of getting rid of content definition out of HTML is search engines. Search engines will examine META tags and most importantly, the contents of the BODY tag. The less HTML, the most content gets indexed. Example: Simple Three Column Layout Left Column Middle Right vs: Simple Three Column Layout div#left { float: left; width: 37%; font: 12em arial; color: #ff0000; } div#middle { font: 12em arial; color: #000000; align: center; } div#right { float: right; width: 37%; font: 12em arial; color: #0000ff; } left column middle right column Compare the amount of HTML inbetween the body tags for a table layer, vs. the amount of HTML inbetween the body tags for a div layout. 18 tags for tables, 6 tags for divs. And, if the CSS is an external file, it can be applied to every single one of your pages, making changes quick and easy. Another benefit is the small amount of processing requires by handheld devices. Cellphones, PDAs, Tablets, ect ect ect. It makes your websites more accessible to smaller devices. Basically, I support this not because I don't have a mind of my own, but because it is clearly the better solution all around for websites. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:33pm |
| Coolness: 339795 | "HTML is a markup language to define structure."
yeah, thats nice, mind actually explain this sentance? "Skinnable websites are also made 500% easier when you eliminate tables, font tags, and all other sort of content definition from HTML and keep it in CSS." Yeah, ok there no tables makes for skinnable sites. MAKES SENSE TO ME. i made [ openimg.org ] skinnable through php, php calls the html, that is all. Tables or no tables skinnable sites have nothing to do with them AT ALL. You can go use whatever the fuck code/languages you want, it does not change the fact that a standard means that it is widely adopted by everyone, not just by W3. If i were to adopt every new method gadget that MS puts out i'd be wasting a shitload of time with garbage. Anytime i adopt something new it's cause it's because everyone else uses it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Fri Sep 26, 2003 @ 3:45pm |
| Coolness: 66645 | Content and structure and data are three seperate elements.
CSS says "Look, this bit of content looks like this, that bit of content looks like that, and should be positioned here." HTML says "Look, this bit of content is encased in these tags so that class/id can be applied to it" XML says "Hey, that piece of data means this..." XML isn't really a language though. Its a protocol (is IP a language, is FTP a language?), and its a whole different story. Now, as for tables not making good skinnable sites: CSS has this amazing ability to position items anywhere you want on a website. I can place a DIV to be positioned 10 pixels from the left and 10 pixels from the top, and no matter what your resolution is, that DIV will always be there. if you have a bunch of divs, with ids and classes, all you have to do is switch CSS files and voila, your page is skinned. You can even let people safely skin websites themselves, using a smaller amount of PHP code. Now, as for support and standards, every browser except for Netscape 4.0 has support for CSS. CSS is not a microsoft made standard, and as long as your adhere to W3C standards, your websites will look the same in IE, Mozilla, Opera, and Netscape. |
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