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So What Exactly Happened To Plur ?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fukt replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 4:31pm
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"PLUR is not rave related, it does not even know what music is. It was only adopted by ravers, given a cool sounding name."

if u knew where plur came from u wouldnt have made that statement... as the link i posted proved.

the term plur and everything U associate with it has been spoon fed to u... u havent made up ur own mind.. just used someone elese's concept...

plur is bunch of crap.. as good as it COULD be.. it doesent exist... if u try to catagorize the way someone thinks, their mentality, their way of being.. u lessen its value.. ppl wanna be bitchy let em be bitchy... ppl wanna be happy let em be happy. stop carring. cause they dont.

and one last thing.. doesent matter what u call ur rose... it will eventually wilt and die
oh yeah... PLUR =P
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PookStah replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 5:28pm
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well said matt

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mandee
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 5:42pm
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PLUR is an acronym....when i said "PLUR is not rave related, it does not even know what music is. It was only adopted by ravers, given a cool sounding name.", i figured you would know what i was talking about.

Ravers did not create the concepts of peace,love,unity or respect....they just gave it a cool name.

"the term plur and everything U associate with it has been spoon fed to u... u havent made up ur own mind.. just used someone elese's concept..."

OK, since you know so much about what i believe PLUR is, tell me...what do i believe?

"and one last thing.. doesent matter what u call ur rose... it will eventually wilt and die"

what?.....you think that's a witty comment or something....duh....everything living dies

The deeper meaning of plur(which you seem to believe is a bunch of crap) is based on concepts that will never die...

anyways...you think it's about "raver P.L.U.R." on a fucking t-shirt...i think it's about mankind....we're talking about seperate things so rant on....you have no idea what i'm speaking of anyways and that won't change..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PookStah replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 5:45pm
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pweez dont start a big huge thing over P.L.U.R

evrybody's concept is different....lets just leave it at that

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mandee
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» G__ replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 6:28pm
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roar took over
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fukt replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 6:32pm
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plur an acronym? really cause i thought it was a just a word that sounded cool. say it with me now... PPPLLLUUURRRRR.

but seriously, theredpill, take a pill. (hey that was kinda witty too, looks like im on a role)... i dont wanna rain on your "everybody hold hands and sing barney mentality" but yeah, come back to us now... i think u spent a little too much time in the matrix... (witty again, damn im good)

what do you believe? aparently not much... in my humble opinion (cause i dont know u, and wont pretend too) u believe that everything is gonna be ok... just have peace, just love everybody, we must unite together and respect each other and everything will be ok.( did u notice i used the words that formed the acronym plur in my previous statement? huh? did ya!?) or at least thats the impression u give (for arguments sake ill take it for face value).

my point is not with plur. my point is with your ignorance... u have been spoon fed.. and to not be a hypocrite so have I. the difference is i spat out the food u just keep suckin it down (is that witty?)

im not tryin to "rant" about something, im not trying to burst your bubble (which also seems quite fragile).. im just trying to make u realise that the world we live in, is not evolved enough, has not reached a level of conciousness that warrants this kind of attitude.

u wanna walk blindly and get burned.. be my guest.. by all means it is your perogative, however u will get burned, burned bad and then........ u will die (cause remember kids "duh....everything living dies" )

en garde?
bahahahah
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» toebee replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 7:47pm
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I think plur is a good idea, just not exactly possible. Well... Unless everyone is hyprocitical and ends up going insane cause too many things go unsaid, or said, but not true...

So yeah, it would be great for everyone to be plur, but I dont think its healthy in the long run.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» The_Deamon replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 7:55pm
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So essentially trippin gives up because he thinks other people are not ready for anything PLUR-like, and yet by that action is contributing to the cycle in the first place?

That's the way i'm getting it down from my angle.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» G__ replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 9:08pm
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you know what really happened to it

it became too much of a forced ideal that you all expected people to uphold to you, but rarely upheld yourselfs.

most people will say that They are respectful to others and blah blah blah...defending THEMSELFS

and that right there is the problem

and fuck the rest of this post
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 9:11pm
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if you can't have peace without drugs then you aren't peaceful by nature.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Sun May 18, 2003 @ 9:14pm
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Man this is worse than a religious debate..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fukt replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 12:43am
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its basically the same thing as a religion, or at least thats the level matrix boy is taking it to.... and deamoned-whatever too.... but in the end... it really dosent matter...

"essentially trippin... blah blah blah.." i havent givin up anything. unlike some i do not feel the need to catagorize the way i think, nor justify it to anyone, some on the other hand require both. (if your next response is pointing out my advocacy for anti-plur, i will reiterate that my beef is with ignorance not a retarded acronym) their reasons? well there not mine... i unno, but what i can deduce, is the fact that these individuals are not neccesarily trying to convince myself or anyone else, they are trying to convince themselves. convince themselves that everythings gonna be ok. and well, have fun with that.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AngryChinchilla replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 4:17am
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go hug a tree you PLUR believing HIPPY
*throws tie-dye shirts at u*
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flatlinedive replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 9:44am
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bitterness tastes great when the glass is half empty
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» toebee replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 10:14am
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And about the "respect" part of PLUR's deffinition...

In one of the deffinitions, it says to respect your own body. Makes no sense. Is taking drugs respecting your body? I do not think so...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» kitkat replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 11:51am
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hugging trees? yay dendrophilia!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 12:37pm
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Almost every world religion promotes Peace, Love, Unity and Respect, some people belive in religion others don't, so stop fighting over some stupid acronym that designates ideas that have been around for thousands of years, if you believe in plur good for you, if you don't well we'll go bash on those plur believers. Fuck all these philosophical debates over some crap make me go insane when there really isn't an answer. Why do some people believe in one god and not another, it's a personnal thing. Why do some ravers believe in plur and the others don't? Because those who don't believe in plur (in most of cases have been raving for more than 2-3 years and know for a fact that achieving plur in the rave scene is just impossible, just like in real life it's impossible to love and respect everybody, wars have been dividing the human kind forever and somewhere along the way, we past the point of no return). And for the unity, i'd really like to see 15 year old candy kids high on E try to unite with hardcore punks and neo-nazis that I saw in munich. I doubt there would be enough of plur in the whole universe to keep them in one piece after 25 minutes. That's all I gotta say, and if you don't agee with me well it's all about the freedom of speech.

Peace
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 3:35pm
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well i been partying just b4 the concept of PLUR came into raves in forms of flyers. I might still have it. Our group of friends didn't think much of it or join into spreading the idea. We just wanted to have fun and listen and dance to electro.
Do i expect all ravers to be plur? no
Do i expect all human to be decent? no

It was just a idea that never really took off imo.

As for special K killing the scene... well all i think of now..at Fairview.( yeah we were the west island crew), a fellow raver told me never, never to try it. It made you agressive. After all this time, i still haven't touch the stuff.

Lastly, at a drum n base party in '94 held in a werehouse behind Village des Valeurs near Namur metro. I think it was called THIS and THAT. 2 american candy were searching for K, but i told them no one ( no dealers ) were willing to provided, sell that stuff; this was before the bikers absolute control. Isnt it weird, people not willing to sell a drug that would theorically demoted PLUR, then again no one really care about conserving the scene from dilluting into mass commercial enterprise.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 4:31pm
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hahahahaha

K makes you agressive!

*dies laughing*

That's like saying that cigarettes, heroin and coke are not addictive. Look something up before putting it down.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee replied on Mon May 19, 2003 @ 6:43pm
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It's one thing having an idea, it's something else putting it into practice... I know more candy ravers who are supposed to be ALL about the plur be the worst mofos around and I wish them dead
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