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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 3:22pm
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i was at the free party at the tunnel this weekend, the cops busted the party as everyone knows, i was filming the cops on my little digi cam and they were telling me to stop filming...

so the question is can the cops stop you from filming them and tell you to turn off the camera.

What are the laws in canada?quebec?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FUCKERS replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 3:23pm
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only if its a crime scene
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GKiLLAZ replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 3:40pm
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Originally Posted By MUERTESITA

only if its a crime scene


I'm not sure about this law... Basicly some News Channel still filmed when it's a crime scene...
Like the news when the cop was death in Laval, they're satill filmming of the spot where he died...

But to be sure, next time, put the camera down and ask the reason.... maybe they will tell you your rights, lol...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 3:46pm
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Much as it's not the "right" thing, the important thing to keep in mind is that if a cop tells you to do something, and you don't, then they can pretty much do what they want to you, legally, as you've disobeyed a direct order from a law enforcement official.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GKiLLAZ replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 3:52pm
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

Much as it's not the "right" thing, the important thing to keep in mind is that if a cop tells you to do something, and you don't, then they can pretty much do what they want to you, legally, as you've disobeyed a direct order from a law enforcement official.


That's a thing, it's not false, but the law is the law, they can't bypass it.
If a bunch of "witness" are there, they better do the good thing,... I hope for those cops...

But yeah, my sentance was a bit of joke...

And by the way, "a direct order" is'nt a normal way of usage for a cop because it's not an military deployement.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 4:45pm
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Cops often don't tell the truth. I don't think they have to... They can make suggestions and hope you follow it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 5:15pm
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Originally Posted By NUCLEAR

Cops often don't tell the truth. I don't think they have to... They can make suggestions and hope you follow it.


qft

and like most city workers, good luck disciplining them !
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 5:21pm
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I guess they are deathly afraid of being filmed while being a bit too rowdy than expected and this making its way to the Police Ethics committee or worse... the media.

As to the legality of filming or not, I'd be very curious to know for sure.

Although, like Screwhead said, you'd get automatically slapped with "failure to comply" and "obstruction of justice" charges rather rapidly. :/
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 8:56pm
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Its always a bit stupid to start to go filming the cops

They usually see it as a form of provocation
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 9:05pm
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the cops shouldn't have any rights we don't. But they are cops, and they have guns, you don't. There's no use pushing them to see how far they'll go, cause the cops won't be the ones losing in the end.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lone_Star replied on Mon Sep 28, 2009 @ 11:44pm
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There's no offense committed (including common-law) when filming officers in (excluding obstruction of justice cases) or out of an intervention as they are located (most of the time) in public areas. Anybody can be filmed in a public area (with certain exceptions; hospitals, public transit, etc.), no consent is needed unless you intend on using the footage for commercial/monetary reasons.

The cop that says it is an offense to film an officer is lying as he/she is most likely insecure to be scrutinized by a camera lens (like most ppl would in their own work environment!). If that person has a problem with someone taping them, they shouldn't have decided to pick that job in the first place IMO.

Now that being said, this doesn't give you the right to start acting like a dick... if you decide to mouth off, intentionally film them by following & causing provocation, cops will easily find a city regulation (screaming, standing on the parc's grass, spitting, jay-walking, etc.) and try to "leverage" the situation. Again IMO, if you intentionally try to piss-off a cop just cause you can, some might not care to take a few minutes of their time to write you a ticket and piss you off right back just cause they can. Hope this helps...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Sep 29, 2009 @ 12:03am
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It's not the same for photography though, you cannot publish a photo of a person in quebec (publish might include putting a picture online) without their consent. This doesn't include groups. There was a case in the 90's of a girl who sued because an image of her smoking was published in a magazine I believe, she got 10k for that.

[ www.montrealmirror.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Sep 29, 2009 @ 2:29am
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Well I think it's a good law, I wouldn't want to appear on the cover of a magazine or have a full-page photo without my consent. Sometime it may seem idiotic but some people don't have common sense bending the law to the fullest and people might not have the resources to sue.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lone_Star replied on Tue Sep 29, 2009 @ 2:49am
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Originally Posted By SCOTTYP

It's not the same for photography though, you cannot publish a photo of a person in quebec (publish might include putting a picture online) without their consent. This doesn't include groups. There was a case in the 90's of a girl who sued because an image of her smoking was published in a magazine I believe, she got 10k for that.

[ www.montrealmirror.com ]


Right, I remember that... she was sitting on the front stairs having coffee and smoking. The court had never gotten a case like that before, it was a very important case for personal privacy.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Tue Sep 29, 2009 @ 8:28am
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thank you lonestar, even tho people whines about your status, i think your a great person and its nice to have fills about the real law from a trustable source!

big up!
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