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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 5:20pm |
 Coolness: 83950 | i vote the OS X users keep quite and let the p.c. nerds fight amongst them selves on this one... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:16pm |
 Coolness: 131670 | Originally Posted By V.2.0.MINUS.1
Well, Faildoze 7 is still in beta so we shouldn't be crying wolf just yet. Pis XP est loin de gagner des concours de stabilité. Il n'y a pas un OS de parfait. Même OS X. faildoze 7 final will not run 16 bit program, this doesnt affect my assembly coding since its fairly easy to port when you have the sources, but when you BOUGHT prgrams that they simply decided not to offer backwards compatibility this cause a problem. and this is not just for games and music soft , i own some that i cant afford going out and buy again just cause they simply added more colour. its not because it cause issues (beside making money) , its because they simply dont want "dino" code to float around for too long. ha , float ! get it ?! .,, i got it , run openbsd / linux / aros for some wicked arcade unmatched on all systems Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:17pm murdoc, your simply paying for a unix you could run for free, koodoos |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:19pm |
 Coolness: 339740 | Originally Posted By MURDOCK_ROCK
i vote the OS X users keep quite and let the p.c. nerds fight amongst them selves on this one... I use linux, windows and osx. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:20pm |
| Coolness: 131670 | in vmware or native ? Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:22pm inferno is the best of all unix/linux thou , not for nothing : made by the ppl who developped "c" themselves |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:21pm |
 Coolness: 166620 | linux (ubuntu) for the 'net and normal stuff & windows just for music ... it's a decent combo :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:22pm |
| Coolness: 131670 | Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:24pm you should try DYNE : BOLIC the live linux for multimedia , lots of movie / music authoring prog in the bundle |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:26pm |
| Coolness: 166620 | yeah, but you know i'm a FL addict :p
at least i got the Satanic Edition skin for ubuntu...looks nice :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:29pm |
| Coolness: 131670 | you could try and run FL from WINE ( windows emulator ) or there is a port thats almost an exact
copy of Fruity Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:56pm ^ i got a desktop with a picture of a satanic madcow too if its what your into |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:31pm |
| Coolness: 166620 | i know, but i'd rather just run it from windows...and i like the idea of having my music stuff separated from the rest |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:41pm |
 Coolness: 685665 | yeah I tried Dyne:Bolic a while back and it really wasn't all that great.. No VST support is a major problem, and, well, like most Linux stuff, the interface is totally counter-intuitive and if you want to really change some settings or tweak stuff you've got to drop to a shell..
I love the idea of linux.. But I've been using DOS-based computers since I was 4 and Linux and it's shell is just a fuckin' mystery.. Every single time I've tried it I've had nothing but bad experiences, and I'm totally not the average noob.. Even Ubuntu, as much as it's pretty much Linux for Dummies (in the same way that Win95/98 was DOS for Dummies), man you ever try to install ATI drivers or get a dual-monitor setup that wasn't mirrored running? After 7 re-installs in 4 hours just trying to get a stretched desktop running with both desktops running at a different resolution, I happily gave up and went back to Windows.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:43pm |
| Coolness: 131670 | windows dependancy i get, for running old progs,
but there is no need to depend on one linux , all code are portable most of the time in between them, by default, if not , minor adjustments. your basically happy with the , (lol sorry) ubuntoo toolset. there are others, like dynebolic/musix that specialised in multimedia toolset by default , backtrack for intrusion/penetration testing , scientific linux in hypercomputing coding tools , trisquel/trisguel in 3d desktop by default , delilinux in running on all old machines even 386 .. man lots to choose from , then there is the server side with is TENMILLION fold more secure : bsd and even there , there is openbsd / freebsd / and the trolledover version ripped by apple. at least they kept the headers... even there they are major differences , but the later 2 compare to windows , and mac for patching the kernel from raw linux code (but latter could still compile), can pass code to one an other withou the need to install anything but the source and libraries most of the time ( valid for openbsd ) Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:44pm so what i like about all the *nix stuff is that they dont spit on old coders masterpieces for a new chunk of money. Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:47pm you know the saying : YOU CANT GET ALL ?
well i like to think its a fallacy , since it is, learing the shell nowadays is easyer than learning your primary language $ man man is teh manual for the manual , start there, after acouple read you will get it RTFM > read the fucking manual Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:50pm and yes , running X on multiple screen is hecktick sometimes but no reason to hit on it, at least you can
code a patch try it yourself on windows, i bet you will just be cursing at the manufacturer for not having the drivers availables , or lost in google after a couple of years , you can always buy the MICROSHAFT DRIVER SDK at 1000$ but why when all cute *nix avail out there offer it rright away/. Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:53pm [ ladspavst.linuxaudio.org ]
keep up to date in linux is a necessity since the code is always dinamic Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:54pm you can always port machine language to a newer code, closed source cannot |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Apr 2, 2009 @ 11:57pm |
| Coolness: 685665 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
and yes , running X on multiple screen is hecktick sometimes but no reason to hit on it, at least you can code a patch try it yourself on windows, i bet you will just be cursing at the manufacturer for not having the drivers availables , or lost in google after a couple of years , you can always buy the MICROSHAFT DRIVER SDK at 1000$ but why when all cute *nix avail out there offer it rright away/. See, that's the thing; with Linux you have to code a patch.. In Windows (all versions from 95 up), I right-click the desktop, click properties, and it shows both monitors.. I click on one and it brings up all it's resolution options, colour depthe, etc.. I can have one screen 16-bit depth 1158x864 and one 24-bit 1600x1200 if I wanted, and that's not even with the graphic-card's specific drivers, that's just generic built-in to windows.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 12:01am |
 Coolness: 201300 | On a mac you plug in a second desktop and it spans automatically when it detects it, Windows is nearly as easy, Linux you have to spend 4 hours reading message boards and editing preference files and praying it works. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 12:06am |
| Coolness: 131670 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
See, that's the thing; with Linux you have to code a patch.. In Windows (all versions from 95 up), I right-click the desktop, click properties, and it shows both monitors.. I click on one and it brings up all it's resolution options, colour depthe, etc.. I can have one screen 16-bit depth 1158x864 and one 24-bit 1600x1200 if I wanted, and that's not even with the graphic-card's specific drivers, that's just generic built-in to windows.. but because of that overall attitude in the market, we are removing more and more power form the user and his machine : its like if i removed the break on your bike, shure youll got fast, but the day YOU will want to stop something somewhere ... you will be dependant of whats been given to you. computers are made to being programed , what your talking about is a console. see iphone . pipeing raw binary code to audio device is something i like to do a lot more than letting someone do it for me , and leaving me with only a few pre-selected boundaries . some people read faster than others too, other ppl prefer porn than education. you choose |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 12:56am |
| Coolness: 685665 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
but because of that overall attitude in the market, we are removing more and more power form the user and his machine : its like if i removed the break on your bike, shure youll got fast, but the day YOU will want to stop something somewhere ... you will be dependant of whats been given to you. computers are made to being programed , what your talking about is a console. see iphone . pipeing raw binary code to audio device is something i like to do a lot more than letting someone do it for me , and leaving me with only a few pre-selected boundaries . some people read faster than others too, other ppl prefer porn than education. you choose That's good for people interested in programing. I, on the other hand, am NOT interested in programing. I've tried learning stuff, but I can't wrap my head around it. I want something that, to use the mac-phrase, 'just works'. You liken running Windows to removing the breaks from my bike.. The way I see it, it's giving me a bike with everything that works, and the important stuff that needs tweeking (seat-height, brake tension, etc..) I can do quickly and easily without reading 40 pages of manuals and spending 10 hours doing trial-and-error. If Linux was the same bike, you're just giving a person a smelt, some raw iron, and blue-prints, and saying "Here, build your own bike and breaks, you've got all you need to learn to do it" Sure I've got the tools and the information infront of me, but I don't WANT to learn to smelt iron/aluminum to cast a frame, I don't want to build my own chain, I don't want to braid my own brake-cables, I don't want to manually assemble my gears; I want something that I can sit on, see that it's too high and lower the seat a little, and then go on my way doing what interests me, which is riding a bike, not learning about how to build a frame, braid cables, learning to machine my own screws and bolts, etc.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 1:41am |
| Coolness: 131670 | linux is not a good platform to learn , unless you like hecktick
bsd is all revised , isomer code. simple , all config are in one place , all sorted according intuition, not at all like linux witch is derived from bsd in the first place. (wee system 3 but lets not get into this) i try new OS almost everyweek, and i have found ppl that rewrite entire os from new breakpoint and run in new and innovative ways, i gave AROS as an example , but there is more than that, inferno/plan9 is an admin less os , almost no way to hack such machine unless given the opportunity BY the user, not by default. ots of innovation on windows comes from linux , READ THE HALLOWEEN DOCUMENTS. microsoft gattered what they tought was best and capitalise a market while people want to control their machine freely, they are stressing some manufacturer to include signed cards that use a global driver, AND THEY ARENT sharing the source this means THEY are capitalising on the programmer , steal some ideas , prevent you from looking at it , lawsuit ppl , and on top have a silent agenda of removing the "real" commands. read the fucking manual was meant as a joke, if everybody woud relax and read the friendly manual , not looking up every letter, fast read , the subject line , you dont need it move on, till you get to what you need , that method will drop trial error way much that just poking out in the blue. information is power, buying closed information is giving all powers away. i used to think drivers were always available too, with the load of computer i rebuild , i spend most time nowadays filtering fake driver website that clog on top of the original website that doesnt even maintain them anymore, soon they will flip the switch, a proper way to overturn the whole market since the manufacturer have all money and when you have all money you dont have obligation towards the user , he just has to pay. you used to have the circuit manual that came with your commodore 500 or amiga or atari computer. in the 90s you barely had the jumper manual of a motherboard , nowadays you have to look for it, andd being a repairman i can tell you you cant find circuit manuals unless you spend weeks looking for them. and even so. what do you think is next ? who do you think encourage this ? and promote it ? users and market are a close conjonction , but one has money , and the other an agenda. shure we can always build an other computer from scratch, market it with the plans , reinvent the world again , but this trend of having it all served up and no edit button is as suck as would be "rebirth to reson". why remove what was needed to invent ? information is power Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 2:22am screwhead
let me put this this way : how would you react if citadel miniature started to paint all their models before packaging ? if you knew a compagny that would go against such ruleing and made their own, unpainted copy of the classics, with as much details, even sometimes with more cuts than an original mold would but with sharp edge you would need to file off. do you think bitching about the fact " i have to do all the paint myself ?! " would be justify ? would you think its a feature some people are looking for ? same with os , some linux are so fucking far away from a consol now it scares the shit out of me thinking its windows painted up as linux and wraped in a linux package still all out to output garbage at some point : " linux is shit , look at the interface " shure its a feature , exactly like unpainted collectible miniature model . thou this feature , is what makes computer , and the more ppl drawn to compagnies like windows , revert us in a proprietary dictatoriaship instead of collaborative " functionnal ideas " . anyways this isnt a easy issue , and i just meant to say maybe programming looks scary , but anybody can learn it , given the respect to learn it. same with painting , same with anything. i had a hard time making the junction from [ machine < - > virtual ] myself, i understood the book, but i wanted to "see". i even lost faith about it , but anytime i gave a damn i looked stuff up , and one day " i saw ". nowadays i only do preemptive " wait " , trial and error is reduced to " trial " . im saying , if people would open up more , especially at a yonger age , and GIVING them the tools , instead of a dummy box, they would learn to expoit it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 6:29am |
| Coolness: 201300 | The problem is the free software movement makes it self out to be an intellectual elite.
"PROGRAM YOUR OWN MUSIC PROGRAMS" "IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, RTFM" "THE MANUAL ISN'T FINISHED? WRITE IT YOURSELF" "MAKE ALL YOUR MUSIC IN ASSEMBLER OTHERWISE YOU ARE SELLING OUT" |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 8:27am |
| Coolness: 339740 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
The problem is the free software movement makes it self out to be an intellectual elite. "PROGRAM YOUR OWN MUSIC PROGRAMS" "IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, RTFM" "THE MANUAL ISN'T FINISHED? WRITE IT YOURSELF" "MAKE ALL YOUR MUSIC IN ASSEMBLER OTHERWISE YOU ARE SELLING OUT" You get what you pay for. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 6:16pm |
| Coolness: 201300 | the 229 I spent on logic audio was worth it (at student discount)
8 DVDs of samples and 3 huge (actually printed) manuals It was worth the price just for the manuals. I will gladly RTFM with a nice package like that. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Fri Apr 3, 2009 @ 6:42pm |
| Coolness: 83950 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
the 229 I spent on logic audio was worth it (at student discount) 8 DVDs of samples and 3 huge (actually printed) manuals It was worth the price just for the manuals. I will gladly RTFM with a nice package like that. agreed... i got the same package, and as far audio products go... i've never gotten so much bang for my buck EVER!!! |
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