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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 9:13am |
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MONTREAL – Montreal police have asked the city to empower local officers to crack down on insult-hurling citizens – likely with a blow to their pocketbooks. Mayor Gerald Tremblay said today his public security committee is mulling the request to slap offenders with fines, a suggestion first brought forward by Montreal's police brotherhood. The union wants Tremblay to make it illegal for members of the public to call cops profanity-laced nicknames, or to call them names like ``pig" and "doughnut-eater." "It's something that will be addressed – we know that other cities have passed some bylaws considering that subject," said Tremblay, stressing the city has not made any concrete decisions about banning indignities directed at police. Chief-Insp. Paul Chablo, communications director for Montreal's police force, said lawyers from the department and the city are examining the feasibility of such a rule. "The key factor is ensuring that it becomes a useful tool for the officers involved, but at the same time it doesn't infringe on anybody's rights," he said. Chablo said several municipalities across Quebec – including Quebec City – have some variation of a law that prohibits citizens from spewing slurs at police officers. The 28-year veteran of the force said the law could keep police interventions involving violent citizens from getting out of hand. "There are cases where people are either intoxicated, or for other reasons extremely aggressive and very injurious," he said. "In these cases, this tool might be something that's practical." But while city council digests the demand to prevent civilians from mouthing off at cops, some experts question whether punishing Montrealers for launching jeers infringes on one's right to expression. "There are an awful lot of words that are borderline and it's highly subjective – it's too vague," Ronald Sklar, a McGill University law professor, said of the police union's proposal . "I don't think the police should be any different than anybody else as far as insults go because it doesn't affect their ability to do their duty. "It's questionable policy." Sklar said words can be punishable, but they must threaten bodily harm or incite disorder. Montreal was also expected to pass a motion Monday night to meet another police request. The city is considering a bylaw amendment that would prohibit protesters from covering their faces during demonstrations. Claude Dauphin, Montreal's executive member in charge of public security, said there would be exceptions to the rule. For example, demonstrators would have the right to don headgear resembling a particular politician whose position is the target of a rally, or slip on a ski mask when the temperature dips to -25 C. "But when you're in the month of July, and you wear a ski mask or a gas mask, there might be a problem," he said. "Maybe their intention is not to have a peaceful demonstration." Chablo said police would use common sense in applying the law. "Whenever there's a protest where people cover their faces with masks or any type of cloth, usually it results in violence or there's an intention to commit violence," he said. "It will be applied where there is a high-risk factor." But Sklar said citizens have a right to wear a mask during protests, regardless of what the weather's like. "At a political demonstration, I think there's a right of privacy – I have a right to cover my face if I don't want to be seen," he said. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 9:16am |
 Coolness: 299550 | It wasn't illegal already? Fuck. So many years of fun from yelling at cops I could've had :( |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 9:22am |
 Coolness: 185580 | tellement! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 10:07am |
 Coolness: 38995 | Originally Posted By THREAD
"Whenever there's a protest where people cover their faces with masks or any type of cloth, usually it results in violence or there's an intention to commit violence," he said. ORRRRRR the cops want to INCITE peaceful protesters into violence, by way of infil-fucking-tration etc. It's not like they haven't done it many many times before. This is a blow towards Animal Rights protesters too. The governments (especially in North America after what GWB did in '06 that has turned everyone for good against AR) are very angry with people campaigning for compassion, you see, it gets in the way of their nasty business! They're trying to find a way to further persecute people who aren't down with the G summits. People have a right to gather and protest and not have the government see their face so that they can track them and hunt them easily later! Originally Posted By THREAD
"At a political demonstration, I think there's a right of privacy – I have a right to cover my face if I don't want to be seen," he said. Damn straight. For the above reason. We're not out of the dark ages yet people, just hit a lull, and we are going back in. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 10:30am |
 Coolness: 158460 | Originally Posted By VEGANNIBAL
They're trying to find a way to further persecute people who aren't down with the G summits. "Down with the G Summits". Sounds so gangsta. :D |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 10:34am |
 Coolness: 295200 | I hate G... those fucking ad on gametrailer are making my ears bleed! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 10:45am |
 Coolness: 93325 | freedom of speech... hopefully this will be contested, its in violation of the act that allows us to speak freely....
Ufot-trust is a lost cause these days |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WhiteLight replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 11:02am |
 Coolness: 50605 | Don't mind the thing about insults. You can critic a cop without having to insult him (even though this law will probably be abused by cops, as always).
The mask thing, though, really is horrible. I know of anarchists manifesters who got into lots of trouble for not wearing masks, even though they didn't commit any crime, just because they were part of an organisation. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 12:22pm |
| Coolness: 339890 | Originally Posted By WHITELIGHT
Don't mind the thing about insults. You can critic a cop without having to insult him (even though this law will probably be abused by cops, as always). So why is this law being passed just for police? It's not ok to insult the police, so why then don't they apply this law to everyone? Make it illegal to insult anyone at any time, ever. Think about that for a second. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 1:22pm |
 Coolness: 106340 | My grandfather was put in a concentration camp for "insulting" an officer of the SS.
This proposed law is an other scary step down the road to fashism. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:23pm |
 Coolness: 165025 | techniquement sa change absolument rien puisque les policiers qui se font insulter utilise "ENTRAVE a un agent de la paix"! donc sa a jamais empecher un policier de te donner un ticket si tu lenvoyais chier donc se blabla est du noize inutile |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:35pm |
| Coolness: 106340 | Alors pourquoi est ce que le corps policier montrealais demande de crée cette nouvelle loi? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:35pm |
| Coolness: 295200 | parce que le monde on compris que s'ils vont contester leur entrave à un policier, ils vont gagné leur cause... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:36pm |
| Coolness: 185580 | peut-être qu'ils pleurent à toutes les fois qu'ils nous entend les traiter de cochon ou de poulet
et pour arrêter d'avoir de la pepeine, y'ont décider que la chose la plus simple serait d'en faire une lois et avoir un contrôle encore plus sur nous (tsé quand tu peux même pas dire ce que tu veux) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:39pm |
| Coolness: 106340 | Ils ont des guns, des tazers, du pepper spray, des gillets par balle... faut vraiment les proteger contre le langage ordurier? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 2:42pm |
| Coolness: 185580 | on dirait
c'est pas moi qui veut cette lois dans mon livre à moi j'aurait toujours le droit d'appeler "poulet" qui je veux! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 6:10pm |
 Coolness: 131820 | give time we will find more harsh and subtile slurs to address the fecal matter of this society. Update » cutterhead wrote on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 6:17pm im coining :
platic sticks, flesh ligh shakers (worse that the already known rent a cop / mall flashlit shiner) , baloneyz, baloneys, pogo fucked baloney, useless piece of clothing, fists of fury, baloney fucked pogos, the farternity, and my last of today : " the cholesterols " ( i advise using eugenics against em too ) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DonLouis replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 6:14pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lone_Star replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 9:26pm |
 Coolness: 153280 | Originally Posted By JOJO_BIZARRE
parce que le monde on compris que s'ils vont contester leur entrave à un policier, ils vont gagné leur cause... C'est pas une journée à la cour dont les gens ont peurs mais surtout le montant du ticket. Quand on veux faire mal à qqun, on vise le porte-feuille. Aussi, j'vois pas pourquoi les gens s'oppose à l'interdiction des masques. Nobody is infringing your right to free speech or preventing you from manifesting, what do you have to hide that you need to hide your face for? If you're proud enough in what you believe in, can't you show your face while representing your interests in a matter that doesn't make you look like a sketchball? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg replied on Tue Jan 27, 2009 @ 9:32pm |
 Coolness: 105905 | Originally Posted By EL_LEADER_MAXIMO
It wasn't illegal already? Fuck. So many years of fun from yelling at cops I could've had :( J'ai déjà pogné un ticket pour ça quand j'tais plus jeune. Insulte à un agent de la paix:160$ caliss. :( Mais bon, une ou 10 insultes c'est le même prix, faque si tu commences à les insulter lâche-toi lousse.  |
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