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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Dec 25, 2008 @ 11:54am |
 Coolness: 106125 | Seing as your vinyl wears a bit each time you play it, the first time should be the best sounding play your record will ever have.
If you own a good sound card that has a phono in, like the emu-1616m, or you are passing throug a quality phono preamp with an acurate RIAA equalisation curve(very important or else you will be lacking bass, big time), the recording should sound as good as a vinyl can sound. If you are recording to a program like pro-tools or cubase, and creating uncompressed wave files your rips should sound just as good as the vinyls. Just though you might get the best of both world. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BobGratton replied on Thu Dec 25, 2008 @ 11:54am |
 Coolness: 74100 | From my experience, the main issue with ripping vinyl is that there isn't any needle that will capture all the details and frequencies from a mastered vinyl to make it into a ready to play file like a mastered wave of the final render from the sequencer. Vinyls will be loud as hell and perfect for a club but a well mastered wave/mp3 will be a less toned down result than a vinyl (recorded through the needle, through a wire, then sound card...)
Also, I have some vinyls that have a terrible mastering or a really bad vinyl material quality, and you can really hear it in the sound. So yeah, digital for me as well now. But I'll keep my tech 1200s for a while! <3 It's all about getting the most accurate sound, the one of the file that comes out of the mastering engineer computer. Even the best vinyl rips I heard in my life had some crunched hi-hats, some clipping or some loss in the bass. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Dec 25, 2008 @ 3:43pm |
 Coolness: 282465 | not to mention youll get vynil static in the recording. It`s weak. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 5:00pm |
 Coolness: 131605 | databoy is right on sound,
some cuts of hi freq sound can only be hear the first 10 times you play it, if you use trackmasters (only one i really tested) , scope trace show a real dampt on the overall amplitude. stereophony gets warp with time too, since the depth of a groove represent its L-R separation. not to talk about L+R too... the problem since vinyl mastering station are all analog paths, when you played them, they will never be an exact copy, and you can miss the 4 quadrant phase information : especially if your going tru a mixer or cheap RIAA network , chances you only record the 90 degree shifts. (some ears miss that flaw, since the next peak will inform the ear and hysteresis will complete the information in the brain) Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 5:06pm i wish i wasnt that excited each time i buy a vinyl and not take the time to record it
and host, the blue stuff they sell at moog works wonders for static. and lots of record store use that since then they put it back in the sleeve and get em out they look like their new, even if they got touched palm down. madk showed me this cleaner, never seen something that didnt leave a mark as such. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 5:07pm mat duke. try to get a high en RIAA to line converter. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 5:33pm |
| Coolness: 106125 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
stereophony gets warp with time too, since the depth of a groove represent its L-R separation. not to talk about L+R too... I didnt know L-R separation was in the depth (or the top) of the groove, but it makes sense seeing as the higher the freq., the more directional the sound. The hi's are in the top of the groove the bass being in the bottom. I sorta though the phazy hi freq. distortion was what peoples liked about records. In modern music, distortion is like the glue that holds everything together. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:11pm |
| Coolness: 131605 | no it's amplitude separation, not frequency separation, whole other dimention:
records oscillate in 3 dimention for the amplitude. frequency is the trail. ^ probably with that said you will get why i said digital have a hard time imitating it. example : in sound forge to "look" at all this info you would need to pull the sonogram & sonograph. and even there is not as representative as a vector scope. okay this is a tv signal, but this is what i think lacks in digital circuits : 
proper quadrant propagation, it will sound the same if you remove 2 quadrants out of four, meaning only 90 deg shifts goes out , but you lack half of the sound warmth cheap circuits will only oscillate amplitude tru the -l bar we see here quadrant II & IV Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:46pm damn site that are totalitarian about their images... so here goes i added more too
since the needle is constantly trying to escape the groove , the carve isnt a balanced information as we know of , it criss crossed in a way so that the counter criss cross coils in the needle cartridge can uncouple the l-r information. but its more complicated without pulling my notes back , i remember one side is l-r combined with l+r and the contrary on the other side. and it sorta happened in this design that if you get in a balanced circuit it chop off half of it, and its almost unoticable to the ear. (to the neo) Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:50pm wall friction will get your aplitude, but the is no attributed frequency, you cant find
bass here and hi on top ... its traveled average that will produce that. you should double check all my l-r & l+r i probably inverted some since its pretty confusing at some point , especially when im not concentrated into it , im just remembering from the top. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:55pm hehe , last thing... ( damn passion )
you see the vector Q line , resonance... the higher the frequency on a cheap RIAA circuit the red line i drew will shorten it quickly and the lower extend it. [sounds like your idea of the bass and hi) but that erronous signal, its what you really dont want to have, you want that phase shift to go far, travel lots and slope down a crazy amplitude, thats the warmth Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Dec 26, 2008 @ 11:57pm and really when i scope cheap mixers like that, it really a straight line, nothing
curvy like the green trace you see on the first image. Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Dec 27, 2008 @ 12:00am if you go true one transistor , it resemble to a single line, if you have multiple transistor injection you get 3d quadrature , the more you have the better, but they have to be "in phase" |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Jan 1, 2009 @ 9:27pm |
| Coolness: 282465 | I'm lowering the price to 750$
as you can see there still aren't any takers...mint condish, play as you wish. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Jan 3, 2009 @ 3:58pm |
| Coolness: 131605 | i have 7 :/ really really taking this into consideration .... what will it be , new truck or turntables ... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Sat Jan 3, 2009 @ 4:36pm |
| Coolness: 282465 | well cutter...if you want them they're here...I can even transport them to you, no problem.
wtv price you wanna pay |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sun Jan 4, 2009 @ 5:44am |
| Coolness: 131605 | god i want to get them, but i need to sit on that cash,
i have to pass again, i hope you sell them quick, or that i start making more dough, btw was there flightcases with them ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Sun Jan 4, 2009 @ 4:12pm |
| Coolness: 282465 | yeh there are, a one piece road case.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Mon Jan 5, 2009 @ 11:31am |
 Coolness: 221775 | bump |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Jan 5, 2009 @ 1:59pm |
| Coolness: 106125 | Originally Posted By HOST_ONE
yeh there are, a one piece road case.. good deal! |
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