Teachers Drop The Holocaust To Avoid Offending Muslims
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 6:56pm |
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By LAURA CLARK [ www.dailymail.co.uk ] Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed. It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial. There is also resistance to tackling the 11th century Crusades - where Christians fought Muslim armies for control of Jerusalem - because lessons often contradict what is taught in local mosques. The findings have prompted claims that some schools are using history 'as a vehicle for promoting political correctness'. The study, funded by the Department for Education and Skills, looked into 'emotive and controversial' history teaching in primary and secondary schools. It found some teachers are dropping courses covering the Holocaust at the earliest opportunity over fears Muslim pupils might express anti-Semitic and anti-Israel reactions in class. The researchers gave the example of a secondary school in an unnamed northern city, which dropped the Holocaust as a subject for GCSE coursework. The report said teachers feared confronting 'anti-Semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial among some Muslim pupils'. It added: "In another department, the Holocaust was taught despite anti-Semitic sentiment among some pupils. "But the same department deliberately avoided teaching the Crusades at Key Stage 3 (11- to 14-year-olds) because their balanced treatment of the topic would have challenged what was taught in some local mosques." A third school found itself 'strongly challenged by some Christian parents for their treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict-and the history of the state of Israel that did not accord with the teachings of their denomination'. The report concluded: "In particular settings, teachers of history are unwilling to challenge highly contentious or charged versions of history in which pupils are steeped at home, in their community or in a place of worship." But Chris McGovern, history education adviser to the former Tory government, said: "History is not a vehicle for promoting political correctness. Children must have access to knowledge of these controversial subjects, whether palatable or unpalatable." The researchers also warned that a lack of subject knowledge among teachers - particularly at primary level - was leading to history being taught in a 'shallow way leading to routine and superficial learning'. Lessons in difficult topics were too often 'bland, simplistic and unproblematic' and bored pupils. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 9:37pm |
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i'm .. speechless.. what?! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sex.is.boring replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 10:12pm |
 Coolness: 78395 | that's stupid.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 10:47pm |
 Coolness: 122435 | i love censorship so much i could puke sensitivity out my nose |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 1:40am |
 Coolness: 685715 | I've said it for years, and I'm gonna keep saying it untill the day I die: Religion needs to be completely OUTLAWED, on penalty of death, if humanity is going to stand any chance of moving forward as an inteligent and educated society. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 8:06am |
 Coolness: 102890 | It just not about religion too.. I mean look at Japan and they national amnesia of the atrocities they committed to the rest of Asia during and before WWII.
Teachers and school boards should be afraid to teach the facts not matter what. Update » Trey wrote on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 8:06am sigh correction Teachers and school boards should NOT be afraid to teach the facts not matter what. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 9:12am |
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I've said it for years, and I'm gonna keep saying it untill the day I die: Religion needs to be completely OUTLAWED, on penalty of death, if humanity is going to stand any chance of moving forward as an inteligent and educated society. nah, people should be allowed to believe whatever they want. what needs to be outlawed is religious intolerance. having someone say "i can't do this", "can't say that" because of religion is bullshit. i should tell my boss that my religion states i cannot work, ever due to my god's law. if he fires me i should be allowed to sue for religious descrimination. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 12:57pm |
 Coolness: 92390 | What I find especially retarded about this is that the reason some pupils are ignorant like that is beacuse of censorship like this.
On the other hand even though I learned about the holocaust in school all we were ever told was a bunch of jews were hated and extermianted and they cried. I would have really appreciated it a lot if they had actually bothered to teach us how something like the holocaust actually happens. All they ever told us was it happened and it was horrible and lots of poeple died but they don't teach us HOW it happened. If we want to make sure it never happens again we have to know how it happened in the first place but it's the one thing they don't teach us. They teach us to hold hands and sing anti-racism songs, they never taught us what rascism actually was. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 3:28pm |
 Coolness: 145325 | what is this supposed to achieve? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 6:02pm |
| Coolness: 201350 | Religion is fine, but schools should be completely secular and unbiased. Freedom of speech and truth should always be more important. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 6:07pm |
| Coolness: 339790 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
Religion is fine, but schools should be completely secular and unbiased. Freedom of speech and truth should always be more important. How dare you promote your secular religion! that's infringing upon my right to religion! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat May 26, 2007 @ 2:15am |
| Coolness: 145325 | "How dare you promote your secular religion! that's infringing upon my right to religion"
this is exactly where we are at. the atheist and the faithfull will destroy one another... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat May 26, 2007 @ 11:44pm |
| Coolness: 201350 | secularism isn't a religion, it's just making the choice to not follow mud hut religious rules. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun May 27, 2007 @ 5:20am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Anarkoid replied on Mon May 28, 2007 @ 3:27pm |
 Coolness: 192800 | Atheism is looking at the cold hard facts, it is nothing like a religion it is by definition the absence of religion
and about the atheist and faithful destroying each other...you don't need the atheist to do that...the "faithful" can do that pretty well by themselves. I can't remember any war being started by atheist... The thing about religions is that they cannot be all right, and every religious person believe that he and his "brother" are right and that the rest are wrongs, and that why you get situations like in this article |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Mon May 28, 2007 @ 5:57pm |
| Coolness: 102890 | That's why the  are waiting for Jesus. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon May 28, 2007 @ 7:52pm |
 Coolness: 150585 | "and about the atheist and faithful destroying each other...you don't need the atheist to do that...the "faithful" can do that pretty well by themselves. I can't remember any war being started by atheist..."
I'm sorry, but not all wars revolve around, or are caused by religion. Atheism, or the abolishment of all religions will result in world peace. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon May 28, 2007 @ 8:11pm |
| Coolness: 685715 | no, but we'll be a hell of a lot closer. Religion is single-handedly responsible for the most hate and seperation of mankind. The Crusades, the 16th century french Wars of Religion, the 30 Year War, WW1 and 2 were pretty heavily influenced by religous beliefs, the slaughter of the native americans that didn't convert to christianity... Religion, by it's nature, implies that you are right, and everyone else is deluded and wrong, and therefore inferior because they don't believe in what you believe in. Eliminating religion completely and totaly would level out a lot of problems, ranging from hate, racial intolerance, down to sexism (you should read marriage contracts going back as recently as the 70s; it's a woman's duty to serve her man without question according to them)
Getting rid of religion would also sort out a pretty massive pedophilia problem; it would eliminate things like Bush going into afghanista/iraq because "god told him to"; and even the mass amounts of "terrorism" going on these days are all religiously motivated. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Mon May 28, 2007 @ 8:41pm |
| Coolness: 150585 | I don't completely disagree with you. Religion, in many ways, does hinder progress in our modern world. But I don't think that religion is the sole perpetrator behind all the violence that has happened, and that is happening right now. Sure there was there were the Crusades, the inquisition, etc.
But for the sake of the argument, lets use your rationalization to solve the problem: "Religion needs to be completely OUTLAWED, on penalty of death..." Doesn't that sound familiar to you? Something like some Pope said way back? *cue* ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue May 29, 2007 @ 11:36am |
| Coolness: 92390 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD NO, BUT WE'LL BE A HELL OF A LOT CLOSER. RELIGION IS SINGLE-HANDEDLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MOST HATE AND SEPERATION OF MANKIND. THE CRUSADES, THE 16TH CENTURY FRENCH WARS OF RELIGION, THE 30 YEAR WAR, WW1 AND 2 WERE PRETTY HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY RELIGOUS BELIEFS, THE SLAUGHTER OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS THAT DIDN'T CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY... RELIGION, BY IT'S NATURE, IMPLIES THAT YOU ARE RIGHT, AND EVERYONE ELSE IS DELUDED AND WRONG, AND THEREFORE INFERIOR BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN. ELIMINATING RELIGION COMPLETELY AND TOTALY WOULD LEVEL OUT A LOT OF PROBLEMS, RANGING FROM HATE, RACIAL INTOLERANCE, DOWN TO SEXISM (YOU SHOULD READ MARRIAGE CONTRACTS GOING BACK AS RECENTLY AS THE 70S; IT'S A WOMAN'S DUTY TO SERVE HER MAN WITHOUT QUESTION ACCORDING TO THEM) GETTING RID OF RELIGION WOULD ALSO SORT OUT A PRETTY MASSIVE PEDOPHILIA PROBLEM; IT WOULD ELIMINATE THINGS LIKE BUSH GOING INTO AFGHANISTA/IRAQ BECAUSE "GOD TOLD HIM TO"; AND EVEN THE MASS AMOUNTS OF "TERRORISM" GOING ON THESE DAYS ARE ALL RELIGIOUSLY MOTIVATED.
Religion was not the cause of all that, religion was simply a tool used to instill the necessary hate and fear needed in the population to carry out their greedy plans. It's not society that was modeled after religion it was religion that was modeled and modified after how they wanted society to be. Any religious texts they disagreed with they would get rid of, anything they didn't like they would deny, misconstrue and rewrite. Anyone who didn't agree was killed and I can bet that they would want their children to agree and avoid such luck. "Believing" was a matter of life or death. The vatican was clearly a lot less concerned with the truth of their own religion than control of the people. Do you really believe that someone who would change and hide the truth about their own religion actually places any value in it? If they even qualify as religous they'd be more like the devils minions. That kind of mind control was always around but the Roman conquests marked the beginning of a new and more advanced age of mind control. I think we should talk abotu getting rid of hate, not religion. The only way to do that is dispell the lies or just don't let anything make you hate. Religion is capable of being a powerful tool against hate but we're talking about a religion partly and effectively designed as a backbone for hate. People have to know better. You think they will lose out if we get rid of religion but they still have plently of people like you who hate on religious people. And remember hate is the tool. They can still attack us and say it was the other guy. They'll use any kind of division to their advantage. Besides it's impossible to get rid of all religous belief. Good luck getting rid of any. Update » moondancer wrote on Tue May 29, 2007 @ 12:01pm and every religious person believe that he and his "brother" are right and that the rest are wrongs, and that why you get situations like in this article
This is also not true at all. I know many religious people who would say that all religions are the same.. maybe even most. I think the problem happens when we're led to believe that someone else's religion is actually out to destroy us and the only reason we can believe that is because we don't know them. They have the power to make us believe anything about what we don't already know. |
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