Bush'S Evidence Against Iran
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 12:28am |
 Coolness: 102740 | There is nothing wrong with Abortion, it is just to look down upon and not accessible in the some States.
People murder doctors who perform abortion. --- Are you fucking kidding me. US is in no position to strike Iran, if anything they will make Israel do it. Iran will retaliate and USA will come to their "defense". Do you really think a military pre-emptive strike against Iran will work? Do you really think it will neutralized the Iran pursuit of nuclear power. Please Morphine.. try to understand past your bigotry.... i know it is easier to go hatin', shit facing on something as clear as the oppression of Islamic fundamentalist. what am i saying is the Americans, not the fucking Western World, i say Americans believe they're are righteous. Freedom to fucking THINK for THEMSELVES, that is the Freedom i am talking about. They are too lazy to think, you have spin bandits making opinions for them. News disguised as Propaganda and powerful PR firms hiding the truth. "The Country is yours, and they say that rule belong to the people, but those who exercise rule over you in the name of the Constitution do not consider you part of the people, for they inflict on you all kinds of suffering, tyranny, and persecution. How, then, can they concede to you any political rights? In their eyes you are but a flock of sheep whose wool is to be clipped, whose milk is to be drunk, and whose meat to be eaten. " ---- Russia and China sits on the UN security council. Russia had a lot invested in Iran. Just as France had in Irak. China is a big buyer of Iranian oil. They are applying pressure to Iran via the UN sanctions and probably some other dealings. Update » Trey wrote on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 12:30am --whatever i am done with this thread. too much time. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 10:44am |
 Coolness: 50945 | what bigotry am i displaying, in your opinion? i'm a bigot because i despise extreme islamic fundamentalism? if you look at my last post, i asked some questions; in order to better understand what it is you're saying.
all i can see is the same repetition of anti-american rhetoric and frankly, its getting pretty tired. i completely agree that there is more to the issue than just iran's nuclear issue, or just their oil, but you can't try and consider the iranian issue as a whole and not admit that those factors ARE involved. anyways, your comment regarding israel just serves to shows which brand of media propaganda you subscribe to. if you want to discuss this in a rational fashion, without jumping the gun, name-calling, and dictating your arguments down to everyone else as if you are the only one on some horse high enough to see whats TRULY going on, then i'd be happy to engage you. otheriwse i'm also done with this thread. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 11:08am |
 Coolness: 339640 | Israel is a terrorist state, Iran is responding to the Israeli threat.. they do so in a bad way, but I feel they're slightly justified in their vocal criticism.
Then again, if I was Iran, I'd be a bit more fearful of Israel given that they have nukes and the second largest air force in the world.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 11:22am |
| Coolness: 50945 | .....and the great & emiment sage of ravewave passes his judgement upon the world yet again. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 11:24am |
 Coolness: 685565 | I wonder if israel has an edit button... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 11:26am |
| Coolness: 50945 | HELL no |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 11:55am |
 Coolness: 92240 | The Iranian people are fighting hard for their country and their rights, the momment a foreign country steps foot in there everyhting those poeple are fighting for would be for nothing. We can't force positive change, change is natural and they are capable of taking care of it on their own, in fact I think their only chance to enact positive change is on their own. Eventually a new generation will come into power or maybe the government will simply be overthrown. They seem to have the motivation to do so. Going in there will ruin that.
What IF they have nukes and what IF we go in.. supposing they don't nuke us the moment they hear of an attack and we disband all their weapons, then what? Go through years of eceonomic depression only to come of it and attack North Korea and then do the same for the next country that hates us for all the stupid shit we do? and again? and again? Besides, people can move, they'd probably just go plant their nukes in some other country that also hates israel and america and nuke new york while american soldiers run around like fools in Tehran. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 12:04pm |
| Coolness: 50945 | i dont know that theyre capable of it on their own. i would like to hope that they are, but the opression they suffer at the hands of their govt is widespread and institutionalized. i totally agree that we cant force positive change, but what do we do about negative change?and for the record i dont think that a preemptive strike is a good idea. i dont think its a bad idea either. i think theres alot going on that needs to be considered before saying yes or no. in fact, i think that the more variables that are brought into the consideration, the harder it is to ultimately make a decision. all you can do is ponder back and forth from one perspective to another.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 3:13pm |
| Coolness: 339640 | Originally Posted By MORPHINE
.....and the great & emiment sage of ravewave passes his judgement upon the world yet again. Perhaps you have a different concept of how a web forum should be operated, but I was always under the impression that they were meant to be outlets of opinion and expression. I think we should now strictly adhere to new rules that state that everyone must only say widely accepted theorems and never step out of line ever letting out the slightest bit of bias or prejudice. *flips on fox news* PASSIFY ME! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 5:04pm |
| Coolness: 50945 | hey you already adhere to those rules so what does that say? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 5:06pm |
| Coolness: 339640 | yeah, it's a very popular belief that Israel is a terrorist state. gotcha. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 5:08pm |
| Coolness: 50945 | all youve done is take popular opinion and make it very blunt.
but no, i know, i realize that message boards should be about the exchange of opinions and all that. its just that i dont like you and i dont like very much of what you have to say, thats all. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rave_dolphin replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 5:09pm |
 Coolness: 86865 | War is part of human nature and I don't think we'll ever get rid of it with any action we might pose. Scientific studies (I'll try to find the link to that study again) point to the fact that groups of people of 3 or more, no matter how close they are, will divide into factions, which in time will start fighting and competing against each others, if their are left to themselves.
The same studies also point out to the fact that two groups "divided" in such a way will only merge together again if they have a common ennemy to fight and that once the ennemy is "vanquished", the same process starts again and the group will either divide or find a new common ennemy to compete against. On the other end, another article I read (MSN news spoke about that one a couple years back, this is what brought me to dig it), in Biology this time, reported that they discovered (back in 2002 I think) a new part of the brain, present amongst 33% of the population only. They traced it's origins to the time period where humans started burying the deads and building cities and societies. That combined to the fact that studied criminals never had that part of the brain developped brought the idea that this new step in evolution might be the key to world peace and unity ... in a couple billion years. In the meantime, there will always be people thursty for blood, and I say better theirs than myne ! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 5:18pm |
| Coolness: 50945 | Originally Posted By BAAMUTH
War is part of human nature and I don't think we'll ever get rid of it with any action we might pose. Scientific studies (I'll try to find the link to that study again) point to the fact that groups of people of 3 or more, no matter how close they are, will divide into factions, which in time will start fighting and competing against each others, if their are left to themselves. makes me think of the way everyone always divides up into ethnic groups at cegep... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 5:41pm |
| Coolness: 339640 | Originally Posted By MORPHINE
all youve done is take popular opinion and make it very blunt. but no, i know, i realize that message boards should be about the exchange of opinions and all that. its just that i dont like you and i dont like very much of what you have to say, thats all. You're free to not read anything I write you know. I mean, if you dislike me as you say, why are you reading anything I ever write or listen to anything I say? I suppose I should be more cautious in the future in what I say in order to not offend you with my thoughts. We should all just join in a great big circle jerk where all we ever do is agree with each other. I'm not sure why you dislike me, I've never said anything particularly negative towards you, however if you dislike people who disagree with you.. I honestly feel bad for you. Diversity makes life interesting. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» m4xom4x replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 7:28pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 9:24pm |
 Coolness: 201200 | ian has a right to express his opinion, even if it is fascist drivel |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Fri Feb 16, 2007 @ 11:01pm |
 Coolness: 93075 | usual suspects/symptoms/sideffects = fear, money, religion, land, resources, control, paranoia, propaganda
possible treatments = open discussions & and somewhat fact based discourse, alchohol, drugs, muzik, dancing, excercise, tv, sleep, drill to the temple Ufot-teh doctor is in |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Feb 17, 2007 @ 1:39am |
| Coolness: 339640 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
ian has a right to express his opinion, even if it is fascist drivel Yup. Wanna highlight some examples of my fascism? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Feb 17, 2007 @ 4:51pm |
| Coolness: 201200 | hmm wanting to wipe out Israel? |
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