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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 1:03pm
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Yes, I've read the stuff on your profile a while back (which is surprising, considering how I dislike reading long texts on a computer screen)...
I can't say I understand fully, but having spent a good part of my life with trust issues, I think I can relate to the feeling.
All I can say is I hope you find happiness, you seem like a decent person :)
I'm feeling full vieille ! tsé right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Tipou replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 2:04pm
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I am great at making new friends but I am not made to be with a new guy every week.
Even if I have a "certain amount" of interested people but I just can't bring myself to be with them.
It is so rare to find "this special one", I can't even explain how it works but it's all about chemistry, and the degree of passion that I feel. This is how I know who is the one.
But not many people had this effect on me.
Only two did, my "first" love who died of brain tumor, (which killed me somehow) and my "recent" ex (which is also killing me in some other way). It has been three months but even if I am horny as hell I cannot give myself to another man.... :/

But I also hate being alone...
I'm feeling sehr einsam right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 2:21pm
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Originally Posted By SHINDY

And if you so jaded you don't trust nobody enough to take a chance, fall in love, and invest in it...

Je vais parler en francais pour que tu comprennes, car a date tu comprends rien de ce je dis. Je ne suis pas 'jaded' pis j'ai rien dit a propos de 'trust'. Je vois pas d'ou t'as pris tout ca. Quand j'aime quelqu'une, je me mets completement dans la relation, mais je ne 'donne' pas mon coeur a l'autre, c pas realiste de faire ca. Faut juste se partager avec l'autre, au complet oui mais pas de facon a devenir dependent.
Originally Posted By SHINDY

I'm sorry for you. Sally got it by a bus??? so what!!! Jhonny was lucky enough to have had Sally in is life for a little time.

Et la vie continue, mais si le contentement de John etait directement lie a Sally, "John is fucked". pis c t de sa faute, non celle a Sally.
Originally Posted By SHINDY

Seriously, if he breaks my heart in 2 year FINE, that's life. At least I will have tried and I will have learn a little something. I had my heart broken before, it hurts like shit, but you eventually move on.

S'il casse avec toi, c vrai que c la vie, mais c pas 'fine' du tout, sauf si t'as aucun emotion, which isn't the case here. The rest, I agree.
Originally Posted By SHINDY

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't care. I'm happy.

Maybe you are naive, maybe you aren't, i don't know you personally well enough to say. And I am glad that you are happy, so long as you're happyness does not depend on someone else. Because all my 'story' was meant to show was that sooner or later, you're going to lose him and you have to understand that you were born alone and you will die alone, that is real life, anyone who says otherwise is just trying to be nice. Take some truth from a complete stranger (me), if you don't live your life for 'you', you will never truly be a success by your own standards. There's a 5% chance that you can depend on someone AND be a success. DON'T gamble with your happyness or with your life.
Update » AlienZeD wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 2:23pm
Tipou: everyone hates being alone, but everyone by definition is alone, otherwise we would be everytwo or everythree. But no, we are everyONE.
Doesn't mean life sucks and you will always feel lonely, you'll find someone who will make you feel heaven... I just have to finish my internship first... be patient damn it! ;)
I'm feeling tuckered out right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Tipou replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 2:54pm
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Originally Posted By ALIENZED

Tipou: everyone hates being alone, but everyone by definition is alone, otherwise we would be everytwo or everythree. But no, we are everyONE.
Doesn't mean life sucks and you will always feel lonely, you'll find someone who will make you feel heaven... I just have to finish my internship first... be patient damn it! ;)


I don't mind solitude. And When I say I hate being alone, I meant I hate this feeling of incomplete that you can only find when you are with someone you love. In the end I don't know if I will ever be able to describe what I am feeling right.
Update » Tipou wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 2:55pm
I miss the "euphory" that love brought me but I don't mind the solitude at all... I have been so much creative since then...
I'm feeling sehr einsam right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:11pm
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passion is important in life, sadly generally only love gives it to us, but once that's over you can apply to to anything, like creativity...
that 'euphory' was probably infatuation darling, pray that you won't feel that again, because it's not as real as you might still think...

true love... is dedication, effort and trust.
the love you describe sounds a lot more like intense physically attraction and emotional attachment... the quick sand of psychological life.
I'm feeling tuckered out right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Tipou replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:18pm
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No love brought me constant "euphory" but I cannot describe it with the exact word I guess.
At first it was passion and physical desire. But then, the passion calmed down it became dedication, effort and trust.
I surrounded everything to him, which is why I got hurt so badly.
Because he told me I could trust him and I did. I never doubt of him, NEVER.
I'm feeling sehr einsam right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:21pm
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This reminds of of the X-Files. Trust no one.

Especially guys, they might love you but instinctual, they want to get down and dirty.... sex.
NO ONE can rise above that. Man, my mind being clear from not smoking is really screwing up the noble lies built up in my head.
Rule numero uno, enjoy yourself no matter what. and try to be good about it :)
I'm feeling tuckered out right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:25pm
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Ah, not this again.
Update » DCRn wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:28pm
To be as gentle as possible, Elsa... You deserve someone with more patience than I.

But before you can achieve that, you'll have to become aware of your own actions and their consequences. When you truly understand what you've done, why I left you, and why it still hurts, you'll be ready.

Obviously, what you say and what you feel are two different things. If I was that bad of a person, would you still miss me?

You and I both know that what hurts you is the fact that you could have done things better, so as to prevent this.

I don't have the patience to deal with your mistakes. Someone else will, and you'll be happy.

Trust is a two-way street...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Tipou replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:27pm
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Originally Posted By ALIENZED

This reminds of of the X-Files. Trust no one.

Especially guys, they might love you but instinctual, they want to get down and dirty.... sex.
NO ONE can rise above that. Man, my mind being clear from not smoking is really screwing up the noble lies built up in my head.
Rule numero uno, enjoy yourself no matter what. and try to be good about it :)


Hehehe.... I am enjoying myself, don't worry...
Update » Tipou wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:28pm
I just miss the "euphory" of love like I said before....
Update » Tipou wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:36pm
"To be as gentle as possible, Elsa... You deserve someone with more patience than I.
But before you can achieve that, you'll have to become aware of your own actions and their consequences. When you truly understand what you've done, why I left you, and why it still hurts, you'll be ready.
Obviously, what you say and what you feel are two different things. If I was that bad of a person, would you still miss me?
You and I both know that what hurts you is the fact that you could have done things better, so as to prevent this.
I don't have the patience to deal with your mistakes. Someone else will, and you'll be happy.
Trust is a two-way street..."

Trust is in a two-way street indeed. That's why you never trusted me what so ever ;) And I haven't said you were a bad person did I???
I just said I trusted you a 100% and unfortunately I got burn for that matter.
And I have done nothing until the break up, then I did act foolishly and I have paid the price ^_^
But before that I did everything to make our relationship better and you know it... But hey why would you care? We are over... ^_^ Have a nice life...
Update » Tipou wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:43pm
And by the way what hurt me the most isn't the thing I could of done better, but the emptied promises ^_^ which in the end is a form of betrayal (kind of like what your ex did to you). But I am sure you are going to take all of this as a personal attack against you, don't you? And then you're going to find some nice arguments on how lazy/money/sucker I was ^_^ to prove your points.
I'm feeling sehr einsam right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:32pm
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Originally Posted By SHINDY

alienZed your the most depressing person I meant this week :) Congratz :D

And if you so jaded you don't trust nobody enough to take a chance, fall in love, and invest in it... I'm sorry for you. Sally got it by a bus??? so what!!! Jhonny was lucky enough to have had Sally in is life for a little time.
Seriously, if he breaks my heart in 2 year FINE, that's life. At least I will have tried and I will have learn a little something. I had my heart broken before, it hurts like shit, but you eventually move on.

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't care. I'm happy.


don't listen to these assholes, congratulations on buying your house, I hope everything works out well. Just because some people end up ask burnt out bitter husks doesn't mean everyone does.
Update » mtl_mtl wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:36pm
ask = as
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:45pm
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I have done nothing until the break up, then I did act foolishly and I have paid the price ^_^


At the very least now you recognize that.

A good step forward.

You have to understand. Say I meet my friend one day, and I punch him in the face. I become aware that I've hurt him and apologize.

But then every time I meet the friend, I keep punching him. Keep apologizing.

After a year or so, I tell my friend I've stopped punching people. I invite him over, restrain from punching him. And then a bit after that... I punch him.

At one point, this friend of mine will start being afraid of me. He won't accept my apologies and even if I stop punching altogether, apologize profusely and give him gifts beyond measure... the guy's had enough. He'll leave and not come back.

Do you understand my point? Care as you might have at any point in our relationship, it still was surrounded by a sea of hurt.
Update » DCRn wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 3:46pm
Also, Shindy, grats on the level up! :)

You know I'll be there to help out!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Tipou replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 4:04pm
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Originally Posted By MADALHAZRED

I have done nothing until the break up, then I did act foolishly and I have paid the price ^_^


At the very least now you recognize that.

A good step forward.

You have to understand. Say I meet my friend one day, and I punch him in the face. I become aware that I've hurt him and apologize.

But then every time I meet the friend, I keep punching him. Keep apologizing.

After a year or so, I tell my friend I've stopped punching people. I invite him over, restrain from punching him. And then a bit after that... I punch him.

At one point, this friend of mine will start being afraid of me. He won't accept my apologies and even if I stop punching altogether, apologize profusely and give him gifts beyond measure... the guy's had enough. He'll leave and not come back.

Do you understand my point? Care as you might have at any point in our relationship, it still was surrounded by a sea of hurt.


No I don't get your point sorry, because our relationship was fine until this summer where we got some troubles (mostly my fault I know that), but then you promised everything would be fine and promised your love when I left for Syracuse. You also made promises when you came to visit (to break up a week after that)and you really made me believe in our love, please don't deny it.
Since I knew this summer had been terrible to our relationship I promised to change, I told you would give you money to pay you back and you refused. I promised I would work hard in school and I did (you even got angry at me for not talking to you online but putting the cam and working on my projects). I also changed my life style, went to the gym, lost couple of pounds, expended my knowledge in cooking and screen-writing, etc... So where did I kept on punching you?

But if you talk after the break up then yes. At this point I did not act like I said I would. That happens sometimes, that doesn't mean I am a psycho-stalker-whore. I was just desperate and impulsive.
I'm feeling sehr einsam right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 4:59pm
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Originally Posted By REPENTTOKYO

Originally Posted By Shindy
alienZed your the most depressing person I meant this week :) Congratz :D

And if you so jaded you don't trust nobody enough to take a chance, fall in love, and invest in it... I'm sorry for you. Sally got it by a bus??? so what!!! Jhonny was lucky enough to have had Sally in is life for a little time.
Seriously, if he breaks my heart in 2 year FINE, that's life. At least I will have tried and I will have learn a little something. I had my heart broken before, it hurts like shit, but you eventually move on.

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't care. I'm happy.


don't listen to these assholes, congratulations on buying your house, I hope everything works out well. Just because some people end up ask burnt out bitter husks doesn't mean everyone does.


I have nothing against her buying a house... it's just dangerous to do it with someone you're involved with... there's a reason why most apartments with roommates make a point of NOT sleeping with each other, it fucks things up. Besides, I've already mentioned that I was a 'worst-case-scenario' type person, I always expect the worst, that way when things DO work, you feel amazing, and if they don't, well you're not destroyed at least. Something the Dr mentioned was very true about all people, what we think and we say and how we act are so different. I think the worst, but I'll act for the best, so it evens out and I'm labelled as pessimistic or depressed.

Does anyone actually think I wish harm upon Shindy?! or that I want her to fail?
Where would we be in life without warnings, without a new perspective. We'd all still think the world was flat!!!
The world is very round people, very round.
Update » AlienZeD wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 4:59pm
almost spherical
Update » AlienZeD wrote on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:00pm
ah!! i meant NOT labelled as pessimistic and depressed... bad missing word there.
I'm feeling tuckered out right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:06pm
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Originally Posted By ALIENZED

I have nothing against her buying a house... it's just dangerous to do it with someone you're involved with... there's a reason why most apartments with roommates make a point of NOT sleeping with each other, it fucks things up.


90 percent of houses are bought by people who are involved with each other. Buying a house is out of reach financially for most single people. It's not a comparable situation to an apartment or being roommates. I don't see it as being any more dangerous than any other activity you involve another human being in...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SUNSTONE replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:15pm
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Originally Posted By TIPOU I AM GREAT AT MAKING NEW FRIENDS BUT I AM NOT MADE TO BE WITH A NEW GUY EVERY WEEK.

Even if I have a "certain amount" of interested people but I just can't bring myself to be with them.
It is so rare to find "this special one", I can't even explain how it works but it's all about chemistry, and the degree of passion that I feel. This is how I know who is the one.
But not many people had this effect on me.
Only two did, my "first" love who died of brain tumor, (which killed me somehow) and my "recent" ex (which is also killing me in some other way). It has been three months but even if I am horny as hell I cannot give myself to another man.... :/

But I also hate being alone...
LETS BE FRIENDS
I'm feeling ironik right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Tipou replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:17pm
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Well come on people, Shindy is getting a house with her boyfriend. Lets us all be happy for her and wish her good luck.
After all people need to take some risks to involve in their lives, and she is doing the right thing by buying a house (instead of making a baby for example).
But in the end buying a house or not, being old or young won't change the experience we have in love.
Some are painful other will be successful. The two I ever had were a total failure. But perharps the next one will be the right one.
I'm feeling sehr einsam right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:29pm
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Originally Posted By REPENTTOKYO

Originally Posted By AlienZeD

I have nothing against her buying a house... it's just dangerous to do it with someone you're involved with... there's a reason why most apartments with roommates make a point of NOT sleeping with each other, it fucks things up.


90 percent of houses are bought by people who are involved with each other.


I have to admit that I realized exactly that when I re-read my post...
Originally Posted By REPENTTOKYO

Buying a house is out of reach financially for most single people. It's not a comparable situation to an apartment or being roommates.

I disagree that it's more out of reach for single people... a bank loan is a bank loan and collateral generally lies in ONE person's posession. And considering it's a domestic property, how is it not comparable to an apartment or being roommates?
I'm feeling tuckered out right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:33pm
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a bank loan is a bank loan, but generally, for mortages, mortage companies / banks give you twice your yearly salary. I am willing to wager that most people don't make 75 000-100 000 a year....so that puts houses out of reach for a single person. Add another person to the mix and your mortage can double.

I don't understand what you mean by collateral....mortages aren't the same as regular bank loans. The house is the "collateral", and the financial status of all parties involved in the purchase are determining factors in the mortage.

It's not comparable to an apartment because an apartment is not an asset. And it's highly unlikely that you and a friend would buy a house together - because it ties your futures together potentially for a long time. Most people don't make such committments to their friends - they make them to their spouses or spousal equivalents.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:37pm
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Originally Posted By REPENTTOKYO

a bank loan is a bank loan, but generally, for mortages, mortage companies / banks give you twice your yearly salary. I am willing to wager that most people don't make 75 000-100 000 a year....so that puts houses out of reach for a single person. Add another person to the mix and your mortage can double.

I don't understand what you mean by collateral....mortages aren't the same as regular bank loans. The house is the "collateral", and the financial status of all parties involved in the purchase are determining factors in the mortage.

It's not comparable to an apartment because an apartment is not an asset. And it's highly unlikely that you and a friend would buy a house together - because it ties your futures together potentially for a long time. Most people don't make such committments to their friends - they make them to their spouses or spousal equivalents.


Clearly you know what you're talking about. You'll hear no more argument from me.
I'm feeling tuckered out right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Fri Jan 26, 2007 @ 5:46pm
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