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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 3:34am
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why do they master the tracks so god aweful loud these days... It seriously hurts my ears through my headphones when a whole mix is blasting at peak.

If you don't know what I am talking about, listen to a cd made in the last 3 or 4 years and listen to one made before 1995 and you will notice how loud the sound is in the new ones. It really destroys the music though. Bad bad bad.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 3:42am
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shoot the guys who master the cds..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 4:33am
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shoot the people who think louder is better
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 4:40am
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hehe, well loud music in it'self isn't bad, it's people who think loud recordings is good. heh.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 4:52am
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loudness is fine

recording should not be loud

if you want loud, buy an amp and some good speakers
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» djAmalgam replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 12:16pm
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you gotta sacrifice somewhere. having both quality and quantity (loudness in this case) will cost you a lot of $$$. i prefer quality over quantity
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 12:31pm
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loud recordings have absolutely inferior quality, it's all about dynamic range
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» djAmalgam replied on Sun Jan 19, 2003 @ 12:37pm
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well said scotteh
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» G__ replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 11:33am
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i like to listen to good music, very loud

i also like big bass that cracks my walls and ceilling
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 4:07pm
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Dynamic range is for classical or jazz/blues. Do you think people listen to pop/metal/rock/electronic for the sound staging, tonal qualities and clean reproduction of instrument dynamics?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 6:33pm
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not if the guitarist has a distortion pedal, hehe
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 8:04pm
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spooky: it's good to have quiet parts and loud parts in songs, if the song is limited too much there aren't any quiet parts anymore... some stuff is mastetered so loud the whole sound file looks like a big square block... everything is blasting at peak...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 8:06pm
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heh, if that was the case it would sound like trash.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 8:12pm
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Not all songs are written to have "slow, quiet parts".

Personally, I'd be pretty scared if nu-metal waveforms DIDN'T looke like a solid block of noise. There's also taking into account that bands generally tend to fill the whole frequency
field by carefully balancing the individual instruments to take up the whole frequency spectrum. Gives for a much richer sound and, in the case of pop music, subtlety is seldom wanted; A catch that you hear from a mile away is what's expected, and a full mix that doesn't let you go will get people listening and keep their attention more than soft parts that leave room for "dynamic range".
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 8:37pm
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I don't mean quiet parts of the whole song, I mean any dip in the wave form.. Drums suffer especially when a song is mastered to loud... Maybe you don't notice this stuff but I do.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 8:55pm
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mad distortion isn't good for yer PA either..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 10:42pm
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Your talking to the person whos used to listening to music on a $75k audiophile sound system. I hear things in music that you wouldn't even know is there. In the Lorena McKinit (sp?) album, there's a track that was recorded in a church. My father and I can listen to it and tell you how tall each person is, bassed on the rustling of their clothing, and we can tell when they move their arms and how. Keep in mind also that I'm the person who bought a 24 karat gold CD because I can hear a sound quality difference in the pressing because of the lazer's reflection on the gold surface.

Marilyn Manson's album, Smells Like Children, sounds like typical loud industrial noise on just about everything I've listened to it on. It's mastered WAY loud, and so many of the songs just come out sounding like noise on a discman. Played on my father's system, even he did a double-take at the quality of the recording.

The mastering is not the problem. Cheap gear made by slave-mokeys en-mass that everyone thinks is good sound systems are the problem.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 10:50pm
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yeah I'm sure it's my sennheiser headphones making all the new music sound bad and not the old stuff? Sorry you are wrong here.

The problem is the new music is not mastered well at all. The limiter is killing the sound. Smells like children is an exception, there also isn't as much deep bass in it as techno or hiphop. Listen to a new hiphop track on a good system and you will hear the distortions on the low and high end being caused by making the sound too hot.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Unknown User replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 10:56pm
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simply saying that someone is wrong is not the squirell way!

sort more bolts and you'll realize that if you want to be right, you have to say "you may be wrong" !!!

it makes you cooler too!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Jan 21, 2003 @ 11:02pm
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sorry I know what I am talking about here.
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