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Nine-Year-Old Girl Gives Birth
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Tue Jul 11, 2006 @ 11:26am |
 Coolness: 2604095 | Nine-year-old girl gives birth
08/07/2006 09:34 - (SA) Rio De Janeiro, Brazil - A 9-year-old gave birth to a baby girl in the western Amazon jungle, a pregnancy that authorities say may have been the result of rape, the National Indian Bureau said on Friday. The girl was found in the jungle in April by labourers working on a natural gas pipeline from the Coari oil fields to Manaus, a city of 1.5 million people 2 900km northwest of Rio de Janeiro, said the bureau, known as Funai. She was taken to Manaus and went into labour on Thursday. The baby, weighing 2.2kg, was delivered by Caesarean section and reportedly was in good health, said Daniele Santos of the Funai press office. Mother refusing to speak The mother, of the Apurina tribe, has refused to speak, and the identity of the infant's father was unknown, Santos said. "In some cultures it's natural for girls to have sexual relations after their first menstruation, but now we have to study if that was the case here, if their culture permits this," Santos said. Mother and child were to remain under medical care for a month and then return to their village in Jaturana, about 120km from Manaus, she said. "It's very rare, and we have to investigate whether it was rape," said Marina Mota, a press officer for the National Health Foundation. "The tribe wasn't that isolated, and had a lot of contact" with outside cultures. National census figures show Brazil has about 700 000 Indians. Most of them live in the northern Amazon rain forest. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jul 11, 2006 @ 3:20pm |
 Coolness: 685700 | It's funny how society and religion have so brainwashed people and fucked them up.
Let's take a look at human life expectancy over the course of the last while. Neanderthal, 20 (Note: Neanderthal is actually a different species from modern humans but is still considered to be a hominid) Neolithic, 20 Bronze Age, 18[2] Classical Greece, 28 Classical Rome, 28 Medieval England, 33 End of 19th Century, 37 Early 20th Century, 50 Circa 1940, 65 Current (in the Western world), 77-81 Do you really think that people had a chance to wait untill they were 18 before fucking and having children? The human race wouldn't have survived! The whole assigning of an age to when you should have a baby is entierly something imposed by humans, because if you look at EVERY SINGLE OTHER SPECIES on this planet, puberty means that it's time to reproduce, like, NOW! Why do you think teenagers are horny all the time? It's because genetically, we're SUPPOSED to be fucking because our species isn't supposed to live as long as we are living these days. Age for sex is something that we have to thank religion for back in the very early days. It is a "sin" to have sex without the intent to reproduce and it is a "sin" to have pre-marital sex. It used to cost money to go to confession (we're talking like way back to the mideval days) and it used to (well, still does) cost money to get married. Therefore, to "give in" to our hormones, you have to get married and make the church money. Or you could commit a sin, and then your confession will cost money. And since it's a sin to have sex without reproduction, you get a lot of kids. Propaganda from the church at the time spoke of "evil satanists" that would sacrifice virgins in an evil black mass, illuminated by candles made from un-baptized baby fat. And what loving parent would want their child to be at the risk of the EViL SaTaNiStS? Hey, guess what, baptism also costs money! Amazing, isn't it? The church has found a way to make profit from people's natural instincts through lies and deciet. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Tue Jul 11, 2006 @ 8:52pm |
 Coolness: 102875 | i think with our longer life expectancy, society also "expanded" childhood and made adulthood longer to achieved.
Before there was only childhood and adulthood, adolescents is relatively modern. btw, i thought Socrates and Pluto live to be old men in Classic Greece. Were they just exceptional healthy? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk replied on Tue Jul 11, 2006 @ 9:18pm |
 Coolness: 126880 | childhood is an invention of the victorian era... people were rich enough to make their children into little dolls
instead of going into the household workforce you can also choose not to have sex even if it's instinctual... blaming natural urges is a cop out so we're not responsible if it's a natural instinct? i don't even see how whether her tribe permited sex or not right after menstruations is supposed to determine whether she was raped or not |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Thu Jul 13, 2006 @ 11:34am |
 Coolness: 51080 | Originally posted by TREY...
btw, i thought Socrates and Pluto live to be old men in Classic Greece. Were they just exceptional healthy? records from that era are spotty, at best |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu Jul 13, 2006 @ 2:32pm |
 Coolness: 92375 | Socrates was supposedly 70 years old, I think Plato was about 80. Records from ancient Greece are not that bad. Plato and Socrates wrote a LOT and they were well enough known. It's not as if they didn't have calendars! You have to remember that at that time when we had so many children, few of the children would actually survive. That puts the life expectancy down A LOT. Also, at that time we didn't have as much medicine and it wasn't as widely available. There were people who lived to see 100 in those times, it was just rare, they would either die as children from famine and disease or later on in life from getting a cold. People were poor, times were tough, the reason for the low life expectancy was really mostly the death of children, they didn't die of old age at 30. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu Jul 13, 2006 @ 2:35pm |
| Coolness: 92375 | Question: First, thank you for a very informative and interesting web site. I am wondering about the demographics of the various classes of women, what percentage were wives, concubines, intelectual prostitutes, plain old prostitutes, and slaves? Also, what was the average life expectancy? And what was the average number of childern a woman would have, and can you compare it to the number of pregnancies? - thanks!
Answer: My guess is that about one quarter of the women were wives, one quarter were daughters and other relatives and one quarter were slaves. The rest were free women, either hetaera or foreigners. I doubt that even 1 hetaera in a hundred was an intellectual and the slave prostitutes probably outnumbered the hetaera by a factor of ten. The average life expectancy was about 36 due to the large number of babies that died. My guess is that the average number of births was 7 with 5 living as old as adolescence. Perhaps there were 8 pregnancies per woman. The poor conditions of sanitation caused the large number of deaths in the very young. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Jul 13, 2006 @ 9:50pm |
 Coolness: 339775 | Originally posted by [SCREWHEAD]...
Let's take a look at human life expectancy over the course of the last while. Neanderthal, 20 (Note: Neanderthal is actually a different species from modern humans but is still considered to be a hominid) Neolithic, 20 Bronze Age, 18[2] Classical Greece, 28 Classical Rome, 28 Medieval England, 33 End of 19th Century, 37 Early 20th Century, 50 Circa 1940, 65 Current (in the Western world), 77-81 where the hell did you get these garbage numbers from?! "End of 19th Century, 37" |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Jul 13, 2006 @ 10:05pm |
 Coolness: 145310 | these are all just averages, if someone dies at the age of 5 say they throw the average |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Jul 14, 2006 @ 12:17am |
| Coolness: 339775 | right, lemme guess, they got those numbers from the census' they did back then? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Jul 14, 2006 @ 11:07am |
| Coolness: 92375 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
Originally posted by [Screwhead]...
Let's take a look at human life expectancy over the course of the last while. Neanderthal, 20 (Note: Neanderthal is actually a different species from modern humans but is still considered to be a hominid) Neolithic, 20 Bronze Age, 18[2] Classical Greece, 28 Classical Rome, 28 Medieval England, 33 End of 19th Century, 37 Early 20th Century, 50 Circa 1940, 65 Current (in the Western world), 77-81 where the hell did you get these garbage numbers from?! "End of 19th Century, 37" |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Jul 14, 2006 @ 12:18pm |
 Coolness: 150570 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
right, lemme guess, they got those numbers from the census' they did back then? Oh snap! hahaha |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Jul 14, 2006 @ 12:54pm |
| Coolness: 92375 | what oh snap? A: census's have been taken since the dawn of civilisation, do you honestly think a leader would NOT be interested in who they can tax or who they can draft in the army? B: have you ever heard of skeleton? Forensics.. you know, SCIENCE? We can tell approximately at what age someone died. To think the numbers would be that accurate is stupid but they don't come from thin air. We been keeping records since Sumeria. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Jul 14, 2006 @ 1:06pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Jul 14, 2006 @ 4:32pm |
 Coolness: 201335 | Yeah way back then people had to have a lot of kids because some of them would surely die.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Sat Jul 15, 2006 @ 2:57pm |
| Coolness: 102875 | or because they didn't have proper contraceptions. i read somewhere the Romans had sheep intestines clean out and use as condoms. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Jul 15, 2006 @ 4:01pm |
| Coolness: 339775 | uhh, people still use that sort of thing.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Jul 15, 2006 @ 10:56pm |
| Coolness: 145310 | he knows, he's one of them |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Sun Jul 16, 2006 @ 3:56am |
| Coolness: 71545 | how does it makes you feel |
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