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Substitute Tabacco In Joints?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ashtraygirl replied on Sun Jun 4, 2006 @ 9:57pm
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in less than 24 hrs i am quitting smoking ($%^$%!) but i plan on continuing to smoke le pot.

i'd like to avoid having to buy Drum or any other rolling tobacco to put in my joints, and i can't smoke them pure - too harsh on the throat.

Does anyone know of any kind of inexpensive substitute that i could use in my joints that won't damage my lungs any more than they already are?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Sun Jun 4, 2006 @ 10:19pm
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Woodchips?

I really can't think of anything to subsitute tobacco, sorry. You can always try passing by Hightimes (or some other headshop) and asking them for advice. I'm sure they've got something.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Sun Jun 4, 2006 @ 11:56pm
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you can smoke hops.
also damiana which is available in health stores
although it tastes kinda weird

so i'd say hops

also crack you can substitute it with crack or meth :P
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 11:22am
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First off I'd like to say congrads on making the right decision. I too have recently stopped smoking cigarettes and the feeling isn't just good, its rewarding and liberating. Since quitting I've made a conscious effort not to put tobacco in the joint I've rolled. The transition to smoking pure joints isn't an easy one but more habitually psychological than anything. I recommend that you simply don't buy weed which is moist or harsh to begin with so you aren't as encouraged to put tobacco in the mix.

The best alternative is no alternative...

You can, however try consuming your weed using a vaporizer isntead of smoking altogether. Unfortunately vaporizers only heat up bud to the combustion point of thc without actually burning (and therefore releasing) most of the other chemicals in weed which actively affect your resulting high. Some may see it as a way to waste weed (and consequently waste cash) but it is the only "heathy" way to consume weed without baking it instead.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 12:01pm
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bong it
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 11:12pm
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i used to put Knaster in joints, and to use a vaporizer pipe for weed alone... thoe are rather good choices, i think
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 11:56pm
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sage - calming, wisdom
damiana - aphrodisiac
mugwort - lucid dream herb
lemon balm - light sedative

hm you may enjoy this link too
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Thu Jun 8, 2006 @ 10:38am
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when i first quit i bought this fake tobacco shit from je lai on duluth...

its main ingredient is "sweet letuce" and is available by the bag or the pack.

regardless it didn't satisfy me and i still put the tabac in me spliffs cuz im addicted, but thats most likely the shit yer looking for...

but you should notice right away that your addiction is acctually pysical and hardly at all pycological as pheonix suggested above.

i also notice that namaste metioned sage...

this can be a fun alternative... but you should be warned that sage/ "salvia" gets you REALLY FUCKIN HIGH, so be carefull with it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Jun 9, 2006 @ 10:42am
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I believe she was reffering to common sage. Sage is actually a family of plants, Salvia is but one type of Sage. Please feel free to sprinkle as much sage in your j as you wish.

Salvia
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This article is about the plant genus called Salvia (sage). For the herb and spice Salvia officinalis see common sage. For the hallucinogen see Salvia divinorum. For other meanings see sage. If you intended to search for the substance secreted in the mouths of most mammals, see saliva.

?Salvia

Blue Sage Salvia azurea
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae

Division: Magnoliophyta

Class: Magnoliopsida

Order: Lamiales

Family: Lamiaceae

Genus: Salvia
L.

Species
see List of Salvia species

Salvia is a genus in the mint family, Lamiaceae. It is one of three genera commonly referred to as Sage. When used without modifiers, sage generally refers to common sage (Salvia officinalis); however, it can be used with modifiers to refer to any member of the genus. This genus includes shrubs, herbaceous perennials, and annuals. Different species of sage are grown as herbs and as ornamental plants. The ornamental species are commonly referred to by their scientific name Salvia.

Common sage
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?Common sage

flowers
Scientific classification
Kingdom: Plantae

Division: Magnoliophyta

Class: Magnoliopsida

Order: Lamiales

Family: Lamiaceae

Genus: Salvia

Species: S. officinalis


Binomial name
Salvia officinalis
L.


Common sage (Salvia officinalis) is a small evergreen subshrub, with woody stems, grayish leaves, and blue to purplish flowers native to southern Europe and the Mediterranean region.

It is much cultivated as a kitchen and medicinal herb, and is also called Garden sage, Kitchen sage, and Dalmatian sage. In southern Europe related species are sometimes cultivated for the same purpose, and may be confused with the common sage. Although this plant was the one originally called by this name sage, a number of related species are now also called by it, and are described in more detail in the article on sage.

The uses and benefits ascribed to it are many and varied, and are often shared with related species. Uses of common sage include:

teas and infusions, which are considered to have calming drink, and as a digestive agent
preservative flavourings, for instance of cheese
as a cooking flavouring, such as in sage and onion stuffing
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Jun 9, 2006 @ 1:15pm
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anything you put in almost always has a nasty acrid taste that ruins the good taste of the buds. just go pure. you get used to it. alternatively you could use washed tobacco. just get some rolling tabac, put a wad in the end of a leg of pantyhose and wash it under warm water until the water runs clear. do it a little longer for good measure, then lay it all out on some paper towel or something to dry it. afterwards it should look whitish and , well, washed-out looking. it smokes super smooth and theres almost no taste...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mikelaicervera replied on Sat Jun 10, 2006 @ 4:17am
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Originally posted by MOONDANCER...

I believe she was reffering to common sage. Sage is actually a family of plants, Salvia is but one type of Sage. Please feel free to sprinkle as much sage in your j as you wish.


Salvia is a really strong psychoactive... I wouldn't recommend it for a joint unless you want to get an overloaded high for the first 5-10 minutes.

For a while I tried flavored tea in my joints. Adds a subtle taste but it's hard on the throat...
Update » mikelaicervera wrote on Sun Jul 30, 2006 @ 4:59am
Just read your reply moondancer.

Sorry, I had misunderstood ;)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Sat Jun 10, 2006 @ 12:08pm
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a bit a dried minth, not too much.
it slows the combustion and tastes good!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Sat Jun 10, 2006 @ 9:22pm
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Originally posted by MIKELAÏ...

Originally posted by moondancer...

I believe she was reffering to common sage. Sage is actually a family of plants, Salvia is but one type of Sage. Please feel free to sprinkle as much sage in your j as you wish.


Salvia is a really strong psychoactive... I wouldn't recommend it for a joint unless you want to get an overloaded high for the first 5-10 minutes.

For a while I tried flavored tea in my joints. Adds a subtle taste but it's hard on the throat...


Sage isn't Salvia! Salvia is part of the sage family. Common sage is for cooking! You buy it at the grocery store as a spice which you then sprinkle all over your food. Never made me high that's for sure. That's like comparing weed to hemp.

The aromatic sages strengthen the lungs; they can therefore be used in teas or tinctures to prevent coughs: 2-3 cups a day for 1-2 months, repeat yearly.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Sat Jun 10, 2006 @ 9:24pm
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Roasted Asparagus Salad with Fried Sage

2 pounds fresh asparagus
1 tablespoon fine chopped fresh sage
1 1/2 tablespoons olive oil
salt
1 cup oil for frying
30 fresh medium sage leaves, pat dry
2 ounces Parmesan cheese

Dressing:
zest of 1 lemon, thin sliced
3 tablespoons fresh squeezed lemon juice
1 tablespoon chopped sage
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/4 cup extra virgin olive oil
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ashtraygirl replied on Sun Jun 11, 2006 @ 12:27am
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thanks for the washed out tabacco suggestion josh...

i'm going to try the dried mint and sage as well... i'm looking forward to it, actually! ;)

as for salvia, it's a little too expensive, even to sprinkle in my joints and plus, it didn't do anything for me the first time i smoked it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OliilO replied on Mon Jun 12, 2006 @ 12:42am
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sage, mint, raspberry leaves. a lot of plants can be smoked. There s a stuff called herbes à fumer at la bottine aux herbes on st denis. A good substitute. Molène is smokabke too i think... look for fluffy dried herbs.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Tue Jun 13, 2006 @ 5:15pm
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look for that plant, it grows wild everywhere on the side of roads and railroads... the best time to pick it would be in august or september. i never tried smoking it but it has a pretty cool effect in tea, and the internet says it can be smoked too... i guess a mix of that and pot might be pretty interesting...

Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Wed Jun 14, 2006 @ 4:04am
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Originally posted by NAMASTÉ...

and the internet says it can be smoked too...


gotta trust the internet ;)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Wed Jun 14, 2006 @ 12:11pm
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I don't see why everyone's convinced that putting an additional toxic substance in their joints would make them any less harsh...If anything you're simply causing unjustified damage to your lungs,... obviously weed causes plenty of harm on its own but at least it could be justified by the high,... anyone who claims that they want to quit smoking cigarettes and yet continues smoking unfiltered tobacco is not only a hypocrite but absolutely blasphemous...
either use a water bong, a vaporizer...alternatively you can dry your weed, tighten your filters, and eliminate your psychological mental block which has somehow demographically conditioned you to require putting tobacco in joints. Nobody does it outside of Quebec anyways so why should we be conditionally predisposed to feel otherwise?? I cant imagine how smoking sage or mint would be any "healthier" than smoking tobacco...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed Jun 14, 2006 @ 12:22pm
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yeah, I always do it pure unless someone else with me is uncomfortable with that. I find it tastes like ass when you add tobacco. It's true that having it as dry as possible makes it less harsh and also means burning well sans tabac. You get used to it anyway.
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