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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 12:51pm |
 Coolness: 158710 | ca c vrai que la mentalite looser/complexe quebecoise est assez repandue...mais que demander a un peuple qui a colonise et qui s'est fait coloniser par la suite??? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 1:17pm |
 Coolness: 126745 | THEY WERE RESET?! WTF?!
my mom loves that James Blunt song |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» subfl0wer replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 1:20pm |
 Coolness: 73445 | I am just saddened at what rock/punk music turned into these days. everything is mixed with pop. I hardly listen to any "new" bands....well the ones I listen to they dont play on the radio...besides maybe coldplay ...I love coldplay:) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Minou replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 6:08pm |
 Coolness: 136020 | Originally posted by SUBFL0WER...
I am just saddened at what rock/punk music turned into these days. everything is mixed with pop. I hardly listen to any "new" bands....well the ones I listen to they dont play on the radio...besides maybe coldplay ...I love coldplay:) I know how you feel, looks like the 90's punk/rock became shity with the years... ITS SOOOOO SAD :( |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 6:21pm |
 Coolness: 122285 | Indeed :( |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kuzutetsu replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 6:49pm |
 Coolness: 133010 | i say its not punk at all
its guys that plays music to play at bell center and be on the cover of filles daujourdhui & being interviewed by izabelle desjardins @ plus sur commande while having tons of 12 years old girls screaming like fucking hysterical annoying cunts. there you have it. simple. plan... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» subfl0wer replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 6:51pm |
| Coolness: 73445 | yeah I know Minou...I mean..we always go through the whole pop phase..like the late 80s till 92 there was the rap and pop that was super big...and then there was grunge/punk/metal etc that flew through the roof until maybe 1998...then britney came out etc and everything went downhill from there...its been almost 10 yrs and pop is still the biggest thing around. I am glad the music I love remains underground though...but it is still sad. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Haha replied on Wed Apr 26, 2006 @ 10:49pm |
 Coolness: 40510 | They don't suck because they made it; they suck because they changed their style so as to appeal to twelve year olds. That is the very meaning of selling out. They stopped playing the music they wanted in order to make more money; it's as simple as that. I don't mind them at asll as far as Pop Music goes but pretending to still be in the same genre (punk) now, because they used to be so, is simply stupid and I don't respect them at all for that.
If I had the musical talent and the opportunity, I might do the same (pop music) but would I refer to me as a punk artist? No. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» subfl0wer replied on Thu Apr 27, 2006 @ 10:50am |
| Coolness: 73445 | hehe good point. Avril Lavigne is another example. Ugh. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Dark_Angel_2 replied on Thu Apr 27, 2006 @ 11:12am |
 Coolness: 69375 | wtf..is simple plan really considered to be punk??? Thats news to me and if soo thats wack, that shit dont sound like punk to me. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Haha replied on Thu Apr 27, 2006 @ 11:16am |
| Coolness: 40510 | Yes. The sad truth is that you got bands like Rancid and Bad Religion who acknowledge Simple Plan as being punk, thus "officializing" their status.
Sad. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Fri Apr 28, 2006 @ 10:09pm |
| Coolness: 122285 | I know it's been a sad state of affairs for the last 5 years or so. Like look at the bill at warped tour since 1999... it's been shit since then and I think that reflects the state of the genre.
And with all due respect to Rancid and Bad Religion , they had have some tendecies that cou;d be viewed as "sell-out" (transplants+shampoo=?!) and I saw a show a few years back at Jarry park, that had Bad Religion open for Blink 182. As well as a change in tone to their music. As much as I respect them and bands in similar positions (Gob for example) or worse (read that, Offspring est shit and die), I just listen to the old shit, that keeps me in my happy little world. I dunno, the only band that has impressed me time after time, exceot for 'PumP up the Valium' was NOFX. They have not only evolved with good lyrics as well as style but they still give off that old feel that they gave for their classic albums. The downfall of the music scene came in the mid 90's and that honestly made me explore new musical horizons and that led me to electronic music, a genre that can remain solid and evolve and not be shitty. Anyway that's been my rant that I think have been harboring for too long. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kuzutetsu replied on Sat Apr 29, 2006 @ 1:18am |
| Coolness: 133010 | Like I said its the little girls...like the early teenage girl
that think its ''punk'' therefore theyre parents thinks its punk and commercial tv and radio animators say its ''punk'' and everyother dumb quebec ppl that listen to those commercial tv and radio stations think its ''punk'' but the real punks don't give a fuck and now that its defenatly not punk. This is an example amongst many others, I heard it a thousand time, like the ppl that goes to clubs like ''The Loft'' near the foufs with they're ''alternative music'' the typical clubbers told us like man u should go there, theres like real hardcore/punk music or whatever just because they see a bunch of asshole starting a moshpit on ''smells like teen spirit'' or whatever popular ''super known ROCK song''..nway there will always be a LOT of ignorant folks about music and especially in quebec :( |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zomb-o-Tron replied on Sat Apr 29, 2006 @ 2:17am |
 Coolness: 42655 | Originally posted by WIZDUMB...
there's a new reset?! yes there is. i used to know the drummer of Simple plan, a good guy tho even if the music sucks, i guess its what happen when you got signed up on majors. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Sat Apr 29, 2006 @ 6:54pm |
| Coolness: 122285 | i met the guitarist of reset back in the day, but i haven't seen or heard of him in years. i think his name was phil or fred. he was a cool guy and i wonder what he's up to, thankfully not in pimple gland. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Haha replied on Mon May 1, 2006 @ 7:57am |
| Coolness: 40510 | Originally posted by WIZDUMB...
i met the guitarist of reset back in the day, but i haven't seen or heard of him in years. i think his name was phil or fred. he was a cool guy and i wonder what he's up to, thankfully not in pimple gland. Yeah, Phil is the guy who decided to revive Reset. I think he`s the singer too, now. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Haha replied on Mon May 1, 2006 @ 8:02am |
| Coolness: 40510 | Again, I have to say that I'm not against the music. if it appeals to some, then so be it. It's the label I don't appreciate.
As far as selling out, what IS selling out? If you are a band who wants to be known and make money... Is being commercial selling out or actually going through with your plans? For that reason alone, I'll never think of bands like Transplants as selling out (and not ALL of Rancid is in Transplants...). And of course, Bad Religion isn't what they used to be. But they're still seen as Godlinmgs in the heart of punkdom, which is why I stated them. If you want sell-outs, try GreenDay. I personally didn't think they were sell-outs until their last album. While their music was generally accepted as pop music, they didn't care. They played their stuff and were humble enough about it. And then, bam! Eyeliner, black clothes and anti-government propaganda. Wtf? That IS selling out; to change oneself dramatically in order to appeal to others (and make money out of the process). |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb replied on Mon May 1, 2006 @ 10:20am |
| Coolness: 122285 | I know green day is just appealing to the emo kids out there.
But you're sell-out point is a pretty complicated situation. Can a band change or for that matter remain successful while still maintaining their integrity? Tough one, still working on an answer for that one |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Haha replied on Mon May 1, 2006 @ 11:39am |
| Coolness: 40510 | I believe that a band can change while maintaining its integrity. Look at System of a Down, for instance. I know, it's nothing like punk and not many might appreciate them too much but still, it's a fine example. Serj used to be the main singer but in the last two albums, they've difinitely changed in style and put Daron as lead singer. A big change but not a loss of integrity. They didn't change to make more money; they changed because they felt like changing. I guess it's up to you to decide whether or not you believe a person has sold out and how much this will affect you. I know that I couldn't listen to Reset anymore after Pierre went to Simple Plan simply because I felt cheated. Some of the songs really affected me and afterwards felt like complete hypocrisy (Friend, for instance). I know that I'll still listen to the Transplants even if they have their song in a shampoo commercial because it doesn't affect me the same way. |
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