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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Sat Feb 18, 2006 @ 9:46pm
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Like in the carribean.. where they serve beer at the movies...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Sun Mar 12, 2006 @ 4:44am
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too bad you can't get any really good absinthe out here... Versinthe is about the best thing the SAQ carries... Absente is a pastis with more reputation than it deserves (like a stiffer version of Pernod with a dash of vermouth)... and don't even get me started on Hill's (essentially everclear with a dash of food coloring and some wormwood flavouring)...

if you can get your hands on Nouvelle-Orleans, then you're well hooked up (sampled some at a warehouse party I played in Louisville, KY a couple of weeks ago... quality stuff)... I've also got a bottle of Abisinthe that a friend brought back from France - which is a brilliant drink.

As for smoking the stuff... a friend of mine reported some interesting effects from chewing on the plant, although you might want to read up on toxicity before doing anything like that.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PsYcHoTiK replied on Thu Mar 16, 2006 @ 10:41am
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Hi !

for anybody interested in making their own absinthe,
we sell a kit to make it,
with all the info and suply you need...

exept the alambic and the 94% ethanol...

visit us at [ www.psycholab.ca ]
or write at psycholab-ethnogenes@hotmail.com
if you have any question its gonna be a pleasure to answer it...

For those who never did it it really worth the try...!
it will be pure absinthe without anything removed!!
but dont drink this too often...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» RedVodka replied on Thu Mar 16, 2006 @ 4:18pm
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faut en plus le distiller.. sinon sa goute la marde.. pis j'pense c'est interdit qu Québec de distiller chez soi..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Thu Mar 16, 2006 @ 5:34pm
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Yeah... but where can you buy the alambic and ethaonol?

This would be something I`d love to try... make a project out of it and stuff...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» RedVodka replied on Thu Mar 16, 2006 @ 8:44pm
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They sell the alcohol at the SAQ... and I don't know what's ''alambic''
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PsYcHoTiK replied on Thu Mar 16, 2006 @ 11:32pm
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The alambic is the distiller
cause yeah it should realy tatse bad without distillation,
they even say that its not worth to be called absinthe if left undistilled...
but the good news is thats its easy to make and just require some effort,
the biggest part is the pressure cooker...

we give all the info in the kit, but they are easily found on the net...
yes distillation is illegal in all occident because of alcool laws...

but well i think we all must spit together on those who prevent self sufficiency...
and the inteligent usage of skils and things...
just use discretion...

the allcool is at the saq but is damn expensive!
better making it...
but this is a lot of effort...

distillation
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» RedVodka replied on Fri Mar 17, 2006 @ 12:11am
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I'll wait and buy some in europe this summer... But if I find someone you can do the distillation part for money, i might be interested in doing it...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PsYcHoTiK replied on Fri Mar 17, 2006 @ 10:19am
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in this domain, their is rarely something more fun than do thing yourself...!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Mar 17, 2006 @ 2:14pm
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everybody wants to make a buck. there is a shop downtown on st-denis street called La Bottine Aux Herbes that sells, in bulk, all the herbs you need to make your own absinthe. all the info is available free, online, from multiple sources.
and if a thujone-containing beverage is all youre concerned with then distillation is wholly unecessary, and if you dont know the intricacies of distillation, which is as much science as it is art, then you WILL bring across less than desirable substances in the distillate.
absinthe has been around long before people knew how to distill.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PsYcHoTiK replied on Fri Mar 17, 2006 @ 2:59pm
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Well wormwood is used since a long time but mostly as a vermifuge,
and the drink absinthe is not only thujone but a complex mix of a lot of thing,
and the only way to make the real absinthe taste and effect is with the distilled liquor...
of course you can make a wormwood tea or alcool but it will not be the brevage absinthe, and will shurly not give you any psychedelic effect...

for the distillation, well as long as you dont burn the thing inside the alambic during the operation you have all their is, and thats what you want...

and morphine, i hope ''your evrybody want to make a buck'' is not for me, cause yeah i told i was seling a kit, but also that all information was on the web alredy and that its alway more fun to do thing ourself, what i always do myself...
and i personaly wouldn buy a kit, but theirs a lot of people who liked to have evrything redy to do so...

anyways, yeah la botine aux herbes is the best place to buy your herbs for this...
they can even prepare the recipe for you if you give them the list...
dont worry ive alredy did it and they dont care...

but dude dont go out and tell people that drinking thujone is like drinking absinthe,
the more intense you will go is getting sick...
but well thats a debate that a lot of people are also having...
making some serious reshearch about this would be interesting...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Mar 17, 2006 @ 4:53pm
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first of all, i never said people should drink thujone. in fact they shouldnt drink thujone, its a dangerous substance and is known to cause seizures and convulsions. but people are gonna do what they wanna do. i said "if a thujone based beverage is what youre looking for". secondly if you use wormwood to make your absinthe, then youre going to have thujone in your product, even in very small amounts. third, absinthe doesnt even have these so-called psychedelic effects. thats a myth created from romantic associations with dead writers and artists. the fact is if youre drinking something with an alcohol content of 45% to 90%, youre probably going to be hallucinating and seeing green fairies anyways.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PsYcHoTiK replied on Fri Mar 17, 2006 @ 6:14pm
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Hey man, lets both stay friendly, we are all here to talk about common interest...
so sorry if i pointed you with what i said...

ok so now...!

thujone is an essantial part of the absinthe effect,
even if its toxic, and thats why its banned evrywhere...
but thats why i said dont drink it too often...
its more an experience...
and its true you just said IF is that you want...
but absinthe IS wormwood and there we come to the problem of the saq absinthe that dont do the job...
it seem that it all the mix that do that strange effect,
their is a lot of volatile phenetilamines precursors in the mix,
even acorus calamus that its the most known...

i know the effect canot be called psychedelic , but its definitly more than just the alcool effect,
drink a lot of 90% ethanol and all youll get is a hole in the stomach and an ethylic coma...
and anywais when i do it the alcool is not higher than 50-55%

but the thing is that it has really a different effect than alcool,
its more heavy and you deffinitly feal an ''Ivresse''(sory dont know the translation..)
its not big enough to give a big description about a buzz or something like that,
but their deffinitly is something fealable about it...

anywais, wathever if you want to make some or not,
the thing worth to be tried...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PsYcHoTiK replied on Fri Mar 17, 2006 @ 8:28pm
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for those who would like to make their absinthe the recipe from Dale Pendell from pharmaco/poeia is the one i use, its:

30g wormwood (absinthe)
8,5g hyssope (hysope)
1,8g calamus (acore)
6g melissa (mélisse)
30g anise seed (graines d'anis)
25g fennel seed (graines de fenouil)
10g star anise (anis étoilé)
3,2g coriender seed (graines de coriande)

he said:
let steep for a week, shaking occasionaly,
then add 600ml water and let the whole macerate another day

he said also here:
it must then be distilled. Inferior recipes skip this step, but what they produce is not worthy to be called absinthe...

in the distillation when the distillate turn yellow ,take it apart for next time, its called faints and give a bad taste...

after ad again the herbs:

4,2g mint
1,1g melissa
3g wormwood
1g citron peel
4,2g liquorice root

let macerate 4 days, filter, bottle...!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Sat Mar 18, 2006 @ 3:30am
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note to morphine:

it's difficult to make the distinction between absinthe and the myth that surrounds it, but it is a *very* different drunk from anything I've ever experienced... I certainly wouldn't say it has hallucinogenic properties that are on par with chemicals, but I will say that I've always found it to be a very lucid and intense experience (especially when combined with capsaicin, which can also trigger hallucinogenic episodes - not sure if that's due to the substance itself, or the endorphin release that accompanies large doses)...

as for distilling your own booze? Regardless of the end product, I still think you'd end up with moonshine... and yes, I've sampled home-brew absinthe (made by people who knew what they were doing)... for those who are seriously interested, read up on Ted Breaux and the Nouvelle Orleans brand... it's good stuff...
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