When Is It Ok To Mc.
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:34pm |
 Coolness: 134230 | i've been makin music and spinning party's for 5 years now,and i dont have a good grasp on when exactly it's ok to have an mc at a party.
what type of party should it be ,what type of tunes, in regards to dnb,when is it ok. In fact i dont want to know when it's ok for there to be an mc,i wanna know when an mc would be appreciated at an event. so please,all the talented experienced dj's let me know your opinion on the matter so i can better understand things. thank you,. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DocSavage replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:37pm |
 Coolness: 90280 | Short bursts during extended sets, so people get to appreciate the performer as well as a nice dose of sick mc'ing. It should always be planned in advance if it's going to be full on. As magical as a spontaneous session can be, most of the time people are drunk and not really prepared and it just sucks for everyone that has to hear it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:41pm |
 Coolness: 144855 | Mcing on happy hardcore sets, I realised that mcs are fun in front of a big crowd, also, english crowd seems to appreciate them more. (at least, that's the impression I got). Harder tracks seems to apply more to a crowd-hyping mc, although you can still rime a little bit on smoother stuff, make sure you don't take too much place. A mc is there to support the music, not to take it's place.
The best bet is to have mcs at the peak of the party, leave the first and last set without any lyrical arts (except maybe an intro for the last dj). And make sure you never rime during vocals ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:43pm |
 Coolness: 299285 | we have a bigshot here! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:47pm |
 Coolness: 471765 | i think emceeing in drum&bass is proper as intros, peak points, and outros ...'longside a few freestyles ..
as long as vocal/instrumental moments stay 50/50 its all good to me ... when music speaks for itself, deeper moments, let it be also when track features major vocals, raps or others, let it speak for itself 2 , or just add back vocals to whats playing i freakin dig proper emceeing on drum&bass sets, same in breaks, thought i'd say breaks needs even less mc interventions, more occasional ... mc's are always propa to me in moderated doses ... mc's all the way gets annoying no mc's gets kinda boring sometimes |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:51pm |
| Coolness: 134230 | ok so here is what im getting from all this ,and discussions in the past.
as long as the mc shuts up for most of the time,it's acceptable. which tells me ,the mc's you are used to dont have enough talent to hold your attention for two solid hours. because an mc should be able to do so. AN mc should be able to do his thing for two solid hours just like a dj,check this, K-os can do 2 hours what he is basically doin is mc'ing.he's just madd tight. so i think once we find the mc's with enough skill ,a 2 hour mc extravaganza will be appropriate,,,right? and finally,everyone keeps talkin about the mc's following the dj,what if the dj starts following the mc,all this mc ing over vocals and peak point stuff goes out the window! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:55pm |
| Coolness: 144855 | Gotta agree with you on that. A good mc can turn an ordinary set into something amazing, but a bad mc will easily destroy an excellent set. It's all about skill and charisma. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:56pm |
| Coolness: 471765 | well it depends
talking of hiphop sure mc's rhyme all the way , thats the plan K-Os had a band and sings lots , doesnt mc all the way .. if you're asking for drum&bass ...then moderated .. but it also depends, i mean in uk its all about the mc's passing the mic to each other and never shutting up really ...when mc's are skilled to me its ok 2 .....bring it on |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 12:59pm |
| Coolness: 134230 | ok,so all this ,"i dont think an mc 's a good idea "or "only do it at the peak " shit,all stems from the fear of a bad mc.
in my opinion the mtl dj's are afflicted with badmcphobia! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DocSavage replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:00pm |
| Coolness: 90280 | Yeah, consider the idea of finding a dj or partner specifically to create an act that's all about the mc'ing, so the djing compliments that. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:01pm |
| Coolness: 471765 | I aint
i was trying to speak from a general point of view i dig mc's, moderated or not, really right now i'd love to have an emcee over a breaks set , would be damn fine so yeah, dont generalize, cuz i'm an exception at least listening to hiphop all day long, so when switching to the double speed why not emcees ?!! same shit , good shit |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SebastianPrelar replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:01pm |
 Coolness: 64750 | I'm mainly on G's side. Alot of mc's scream non-stop so you cant even hear the music anymore. That sucks cuz I wanna hear the music and the dj skills first. If the mc is skilled and intelligent enough to mc & shut up at the right moments, it can add alot to a set and make the people bounce more. As for the music style, I think every styles can handle some. Even techno, I've hear DJ Rush mc'ing with his headphone live when playing, distorded as hell, it was totaly sick. Its just a matter of dosing right at the correct moment I guess. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:04pm |
| Coolness: 471765 | like when i drop some Dizzee Rascal accapella on top of a progressive/psytrance choon, just for fun ...:lol
psyheads would hate it , to me it gives something interesting to the trance at least ...:lol |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:08pm |
 Coolness: 102165 | thats a freakin good mix bro :D |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:11pm |
| Coolness: 134230 | What im seeing is alot of rules and regulations for an mc to follow in order to be allowed to mc.
Do you guy's agree that all these rules have something to do with mc's fucking up sets in the past? I mean it's understandable,i've seen some real garbage grace the stage,,me included on one coked out night. i just want to know,when an mc asks for the mic,are you worried? And how many of you are gonna actually take the time to make it work with an mc,have rehearsals and talk about the set.. here's the biggie,,why cant the dj's start following the mc's? make a total mc friendly set .? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mike_Stinger replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:40pm |
 Coolness: 51200 | no, i think no matter how "talented" the mc is, people still don't want to hear them for 2 hours. that's not what they came out for. go to a rap show for that...
even the best mc is annoying after like 30 minutes. most people came to hear beats. imho... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:42pm |
 Coolness: 685550 | For a totally MC friendly set, you need to work with the MC so that they know all the tunes your playing like the back of their hand and have some rhymes prepared for it. Freestyling can only go so far, you need structure.
MCing is like adding a new instrument to a song. If you listen to, say, Enter Sandman, a pretty damn rockin' track. Now throw in a guitar solo from start to finnish. Doesn't work, doesn't fit, it's not enough of an eccentuation of the track, it's not the occasional burst of energy that means something. Nothing Else Matters, same thing. Sick acoustic jam with an electric solo, but if you had an electric solo or distorted guitars over the acoustic parts, it would kill the song. Just like if your making a track throwing in a reece, an amen, some electro-step, some clownstep, you've got to know when to say "stop" and throw something else into the track before it becomes cluttered and stops being innovative. There are "rules" to everyting musical. Some can be be broken for good and interesting results, but the main rule is to keep it musical. It's about a balance. If an MC has something planned with a DJ or has worked with a DJ enough to know their style and track selection, there should be no fear of passing them the mic, but the MCs have to realise that unless they're booked as a special guest or that they were specifically anounced, that most people are at a party to hear the DJ play and to have him flex his shit instead of competing with someone for the crowd's attention. Unless your in a hiphop battle, there should never be anyone competing for who's got the attention of the crowd. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:43pm |
| Coolness: 134230 | why is a rap show different from one of our show's?
what do the people come out for? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:44pm |
| Coolness: 685550 | Woops, this was suposed to be an edit, not a reply. :lol There is a change in the 3rd paragraph
Originally posted by [SCREWHEAD]...
For a totally MC friendly set, you need to work with the MC so that they know all the tunes your playing like the back of their hand and have some rhymes prepared for it. Freestyling can only go so far, you need structure. MCing is like adding a new instrument to a song. If you listen to, say, Enter Sandman, a pretty damn rockin' track. Now throw in a guitar solo from start to finnish. Doesn't work, doesn't fit, it's not enough of an eccentuation of the track, it's not the occasional burst of energy that means something. Nothing Else Matters, same thing. Sick acoustic jam with an electric solo, but if you had an electric solo or distorted guitars over the acoustic parts, it would kill the song. Just like if your making a track throwing in a reece, an amen, some electro-step, some clownstep, you've got to know when to say "stop" and remove something in the track before it becomes cluttered and makes the transition from being innovative to being a jumble of sounds. There are "rules" to everyting musical. Some can be be broken for good and interesting results, but the main rule is to keep it musical. It's about a balance. If an MC has something planned with a DJ or has worked with a DJ enough to know their style and track selection, there should be no fear of passing them the mic, but the MCs have to realise that unless they're booked as a special guest or that they were specifically anounced, that most people are at a party to hear the DJ play and to have him flex his shit instead of competing with someone for the crowd's attention. Unless your in a hiphop battle, there should never be anyone competing for who's got the attention of the crowd. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop replied on Tue Jul 12, 2005 @ 1:50pm |
 Coolness: 200490 | it's never ok to MC. in fact, most MCs deserve to be beaten with a shovel.... that's how the legend goes. |
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