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What Do You Think Happens When You Die?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Flashy_Simon replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:25pm
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

something that is dead is something that had life, but is no longer alive. thereby, you were most certainly not dead before you were born.

when you are dreaming your brain is no where near it's lowest level of activity, infact it's quite the opposite, when you're dreaming your mind is thinking a whole lot.


1. I'm talking from the subjective standpoint (because we know what happens to the body, the question here is what happens to consciousness): we were dead before we were alive because we didn't exist before we were alive, just like we will stop existing when we die. But okay, my choice of words sucked.

2. That's why I mentioned "when you sleep and don't dream". I was talking about the phase of delta activity, not of REM sleep.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:30pm
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well using the word dead is wrong then, since 'dead' means something that was once alive, but is no longer.. which *could* be true, if you're talking about reincarnation..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:38pm
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

well using the word dead is wrong then, since 'dead' means something that was once alive, but is no longer.. which *could* be true, if you're talking about reincarnation..


i think he already acknowledged it was a wrong choice of words..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:42pm
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Yeah? THEN I WIN!!!

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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:45pm
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Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...

Yeah? THEN I WIN!!!

AAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHSDHADKJSDFHKAJHAHAHHAHA!!!


hooray.. u win the "honor" of being "right" about the usage of a word on a messageboard disscussion about death.. *medal of honor awarded to neoform*
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cactain_steef replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:51pm
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it's why we were getting married.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaLy replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 4:54pm
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I believe in reincarnation.
I think there are different 'evolution steps'.
One of the first one would be something like a one cell creature. After this life it would become an insect, and then maybe a shellfish.
After that it could be a snake, then a squirel and eventually a human.
The first time the 'soul' becomes a human, he doesn't have much talent nor qualities, and life after life, it accumulates it and become one of those perfect people.

that's what I think, probably wrong, who knows..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Flashy_Simon replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 5:15pm
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Originally posted by PALY...

I believe in reincarnation.
I think there are different 'evolution steps'.
One of the first one would be something like a one cell creature. After this life it would become an insect, and then maybe a shellfish.
After that it could be a snake, then a squirel and eventually a human.
The first time the 'soul' becomes a human, he doesn't have much talent nor qualities, and life after life, it accumulates it and become one of those perfect people.

that's what I think, probably wrong, who knows..


And would that 'soul' be consciousness ? I mean, what do you define as soul -- self-awareness ?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 5:27pm
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 5:28pm
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i think once you die, you automatically get reborn as something else, so like, lights go out, and boom, you fly out of someone else pune, and voila, new identity/life... how convenient is that you silly rabbits!@

Ufot-for trix?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaLy replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 5:30pm
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no I don't think it would be conscious.

I think the talents and qualities I have now were earned in the past lifes.

ie I'm a good musician.. I think that in previous lifes, I wasn't good at all but kept on trying.. eventually got better, until today.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» michaeldino replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 6:30pm
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Originally posted by FANCYLUNG...

i dno, i thnk theres an afterlife... think of being in a womb..yer there to develop arms an legs, eyes etc. for when youre born... maybe were here to learn something for when we die?


that's a good answer
a really good answer even
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Flashy_Simon replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 7:35pm
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Originally posted by PALY...

no I don't think it would be conscious.

I think the talents and qualities I have now were earned in the past lifes.

ie I'm a good musician.. I think that in previous lifes, I wasn't good at all but kept on trying.. eventually got better, until today.


So you're saying that there would be an immaterial set of talents/skills/knowledge that is attached to a living thing, and when it dies, it leaves it and latches onto a new one like a parasite ?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaLy replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 10:03pm
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hahaha kinda.. but it doesn't always stays at the same level of evolution.. it grows up..
I believe that none of us will ever become perfect, our soul will die soon or later, 'cause we can't all be 'perfect'.

( remember everyone.. that's what 'I' think and believe.. it's probably wrong but I like the idea )
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 11:29pm
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death is not beautiful, we just want it to be nice to hope it won't be the real end.

As a living thing, I am not more important than a worm, a bird or a jelly fish. We just know that we exist, and we know that we will die, and we are questioning ourself about our death, what a worm, a bird and a jelly fish don't. We're not different, so why would there be something after? Even dreams are neuronal flux. We are a bunch of cells that, together, do what we are, quite complex yes, but that's all we are.
So, at my death, it will be the end for me and I will ask to be incinerated and hope that my ashes will go in a garden to fertilize the ground!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Alch3mia replied on Mon Apr 25, 2005 @ 11:47pm
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when the brain die . maybe the mind dont shut down. Maybe...
If mind is influenced by mechanic inherent in quantum theory (sub atomic physic) there is possibility of consciousness when organic bidy id dead.
Should check those scientist. Sir Roger Penrose at Cambridge university- and Stuart Hameroff - Most of them worked with the greatest scientist and think that maybe there is consciousness without organic living. But this is a theory. Not proven yet.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Tue Apr 26, 2005 @ 1:40am
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I live,
I die.

-A POEM.

Tian Di Jiao is right.
Monks in Tibet conserve death corpse in a room with windows for 7 days, praying non-stop arrounf the body. Monks believe that the spirit would, will take 7 days to be free.

For my part, as Tian Di Jiao, the sub anatomic physionomie of our brain contain severals cells of miniature electricity. And, like every machine, the cells are not totally empty when you shut down the machine, the computer still possess a huge ammount of static and ( bla bla).

I believe, at my death, I will feel like a dream, slowly fading out(while the rest of the ''electric/energic'' substance in my brain get to be grounded. And this dream could turn up into a real mother fucking bad nightmare if someone burns me up in a coffin or remove my brain. I just don't know and I feel like ''When I die, I want all my part to stay intact at least for 7 days.'' haha
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Apr 26, 2005 @ 2:36am
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Do you ever notice that, as you begin drifting off to sleep, you start experiencing very interesting, dreamy thoughts? Sometimes it can feel like dreaming while still partially awake. And then, like a spiral descending into blackness, you drift further and further away from your surroundings....and then the next conscious thought occurs only upon waking. It could be half an hour later, or twelve hours later, you only realize it after a few moments of re-orienting yourself to your surroundings. I imagine that death could be alot like the crack between sleep and wakefulness, except of course that there is neither the conclusion of "waking up" nor the possibility of being conscious of your own death. (If death=end of consciousness, then you never will consciously be aware of being dead.) So, suspended in a moment of time between living and dying, I beleive that one's awareness turns inwards to the hidden depths of the mind. Like heather said, a never-ending dream. Because hidden in the subconscious is the preserved memory of every single moment of your life...and its quite a common occurence for people having near-death experiences to report a sort of "life review" where they experience moments of their past all over again. So maybe you don't live just once, but multiple times: once "for real" and then over and over again based on the memories contained within your mind. And if this is so, would you be doomed to repeat every action as it was first performed, or is memory pliable enough to allow certain twists and variations?
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