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Why Do You Think Ppl Use Drugs?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 10:32am
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I would like to discuss any and all reasons people would have for doing drugs. Do you think, it is evil forces that make people use drugs? Individual factors?
IF you had to cure the human drug problem, how would you do it? DO you think it is possible?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 12:55pm
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in my case i used drugs purely as an escapist means of self-medication. i dont think i'd ever have become a meth-addict had i not felt the need to self-medicate myself. and no it is not possible to cure drug addiction in humanity. drugs will forever be an ever present force whether they be grown from the earth or synthesized in a lab. and so long as they are there, so long as humanity is laced with tragedy and sorrow, then people will always resort to drugs as the alternative... as an escape. most human beings are incapable of dealign with life's tumultuous road alone therefore they resort to external menas such as religion, but in many cases the salvation religion offers many people isn't enough for some so people like me will reach to the beckoning hand of drugs.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 1:20pm
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Bordom.. depression
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Dark_Angel_2 replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 1:27pm
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to have a change of perception....to have fun...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 1:30pm
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It starts off without you ever realising it. Not being able to wake up without a cup of coffee, not being able to make it through the day without anti-depressants, candy being marketed towards kids, alcohol being "socialy acceptable", etc.

We're all taught that the only way to get things done, the only way to function, is if you're medicated in some way. The only way you can have fun, is if you ingest something that makes you feel "diffrent" and alters your perception ever so slightly.

Personally, I started doing drugs because I was working and had insomnia, so I needed to be awake durring the day with no sleep at night. Later on it moved on to just wanting to dissasociate from how shitty my life was and I was tired of constantly thinking of how I fucked up the best thing I ever had going. Now, I just smoke weed and drink, the smoking weed mainly for stress-relief, or because I just enjoy how it feels. Same with alcohol, I drink because I like the taste and the feel of it, plus it makes me more "in tune" to music, which is about as important to me as breathing.

Didn't Dan (Poisoned Candy) post an article in this section about WHY people (and other animals) tend to get addicted to drugs?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flatlinedive replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 1:48pm
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legalize them
cuz the war on drugs in the states is the perfect example of how prohobitive tactics work so well to decrease usage
pft
whatever reasons you use them for, isn't it your right to decide to use them or not? it is your body after all.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 3:10pm
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it may be your body... but its not jsut your own life it affects. it affects everyone around you when you use drugs: your family, your friends, your work, etc. it is perhaps one of the most selfishly destructive choices you can make.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 4:03pm
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duh..to have fun :P
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 5:11pm
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I've noticed a lot of people who become addicts are vulnerable and are looking for a means to escape. And then it turns into a dangerous cycle of love-hate relationships involving drug use and friendship circles which are hard if not impossible to get out of, and your personalality adapts/changes to the point where you can't understand the concept of functioning without the drug, even if it is constantly harming you....

There is often a heavy social element involved in addiction... The worst kinds of people are the ones who use others vulnerability and dependance as a means to manipulate and control them.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 9:39pm
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Originally posted by ::HAYLEY::...

in my case i used drugs purely as an escapist means of self-medication. i dont think i'd ever have become a meth-addict had i not felt the need to self-medicate myself. and no it is not possible to cure drug addiction in humanity. drugs will forever be an ever present force whether they be grown from the earth or synthesized in a lab. and so long as they are there, so long as humanity is laced with tragedy and sorrow, then people will always resort to drugs as the alternative... as an escape. most human beings are incapable of dealign with life's tumultuous road alone therefore they resort to external menas such as religion, but in many cases the salvation religion offers many people isn't enough for some so people like me will reach to the beckoning hand of drugs.


you so haven't convinced me that it is not possible to cure the drug problem so you probably don't belive it is impossible.

Yeah, religion wasn't enough for me either.. it just didn't stone me enough I guess.

Maybe, that's why I liked that van morrison and bob dylan song so much
..and it stoned me to my soul da di dah..
..everybody must get stoned... lal lla

but oh yeah back on topic... drugs will most probably always be available as they can be fabricated on planet earth.

You make it sound like pain and suffering cannot be appeased.. why is there so much pain and suffering? Why is it that it can't be solved? Why is it that we cannot put an end to pain and suffering?

I need to smoke a joint.. no, not really. but I though that it would be appropirate.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 9:46pm
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Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...

you so haven't convinced me that it is not possible to cure the drug problem so you probably don't belive it is impossible.

You make it sound like pain and suffering cannot be appeased.. why is there so much pain and suffering? Why is it that it can't be solved? Why is it that we cannot put an end to pain and suffering?



How about YOU go do some drugs, YOU get addicted, and YOU try to get out of it. Maybe then you will fuckin understand what she is talking about.

Why is there so much pain and suffering.. look around you, look at the world. It is falling apart. We learn from all this pain, but wow sometimes shit can be way too fucked up to be solved. Without pain and suffering.. we wouldn't have happiness and feelings.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 9:55pm
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How about if YOU knew me then YOU would know that I have been addicted to drugs.. and have gotten out of it.
THat's all I got to say because I think you've taken me out of context... out of love for someone who you care about apprently.

Anyway, I hope the person I replied to doesn't take my comment the wrong way. Becuase I certainly wasn't trying to offend anyone.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 9:59pm
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Originally posted by HEATHER PIE HOLE...

Bordom.. depression


if I had a dollar for all of the times I used drugs, when I was bored I'd be...

I definately think that a lack of chemical equlibrium (ie depression) is at the source of why ppl use drugs.

I'm not being sarcstic either.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 10:02pm
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Originally posted by DARKANGEL...

to have a change of perception....to have fun...


This was def. something that has motivated me... On E, I like how I feel totally uninhibited.. I'm alot less inhibited now than I was oh when I was 16. But that change of percpetion I crave.

There's that social element too.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Mar 31, 2005 @ 10:07pm
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Originally posted by FLAT.LINE.DIVE...

legalize them
cuz the war on drugs in the states is the perfect example of how prohobitive tactics work so well to decrease usage
pft
whatever reasons you use them for, isn't it your right to decide to use them or not? it is your body after all.


the above^^ is another one of the good arguments I've heard about the "war on drugs"...
the truth is prohibitive tactics only work on people who fear punishment by the quote unquote law that is not easy to respect..

I agree with what you said ... it ought to be our choice that would be progressive... except apparently the government knows what's best for us.
Anyone wanna go have a beer... and not contemplate all the shittiness in the world, please, thank you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Apr 1, 2005 @ 5:04am
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Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...

Originally posted by ::hayley::...

in my case i used drugs purely as an escapist means of self-medication. i dont think i'd ever have become a meth-addict had i not felt the need to self-medicate myself. and no it is not possible to cure drug addiction in humanity. drugs will forever be an ever present force whether they be grown from the earth or synthesized in a lab. and so long as they are there, so long as humanity is laced with tragedy and sorrow, then people will always resort to drugs as the alternative... as an escape. most human beings are incapable of dealign with life's tumultuous road alone therefore they resort to external menas such as religion, but in many cases the salvation religion offers many people isn't enough for some so people like me will reach to the beckoning hand of drugs.


you so haven't convinced me that it is not possible to cure the drug problem so you probably don't belive it is impossible.

Yeah, religion wasn't enough for me either.. it just didn't stone me enough I guess.

Maybe, that's why I liked that van morrison and bob dylan song so much
..and it stoned me to my soul da di dah..
..everybody must get stoned... lal lla

but oh yeah back on topic... drugs will most probably always be available as they can be fabricated on planet earth.

You make it sound like pain and suffering cannot be appeased.. why is there so much pain and suffering? Why is it that it can't be solved? Why is it that we cannot put an end to pain and suffering?

I need to smoke a joint.. no, not really. but I though that it would be appropirate.


Cause she`s smart. You can`t change what it means to be human. You can`t teach someone that drugs are bad. They have to learn for themselves or see to believe, and once there are no druggies left on planet earth then no amount of education will stop the cycle from happening again. Not that the cycle will ever stop.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Apr 1, 2005 @ 7:34am
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Of course, you can teach, educate, by example that drugs are not the way to go.

Just try telling me not to use "illegal" *drugs, when selling pharmaceuticals is a major source of our livelihood though. Good luck! Humans learn by example. WE are logical, thinking creatures. We need laws we can respect. Our whole culture is based on soulaging ourselves with products-- drugs of all kinds. I wouldn't expect anything less from every individual.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Fri Apr 1, 2005 @ 8:31am
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Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...

How about if YOU knew me then YOU would know that I have been addicted to drugs.. and have gotten out of it.
THat's all I got to say because I think you've taken me out of context... out of love for someone who you care about apprently.

Anyway, I hope the person I replied to doesn't take my comment the wrong way. Becuase I certainly wasn't trying to offend anyone.


hmm mmm
there are some paths people can take that can be easier for them, but for someone else taking that same path is harder, because everyone is different and not everyone can go at the same pace or do the same thing. Some people can get over a addiction.. some can't. But there is always that little thing in the back of your brain.. making you remember all the things you done. Reminded you of the addiction
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Fri Apr 1, 2005 @ 10:26am
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Originally posted by HEATHER PIE HOLE...

hmm mmm
there are some paths people can take that can be easier for them, but for someone else taking that same path is harder, because everyone is different and not everyone can go at the same pace or do the same thing. Some people can get over a addiction.. some can't. But there is always that little thing in the back of your brain.. making you remember all the things you done. Reminded you of the addiction


heathers got it on the nose. a smell, a song, a place. they can all rekindle the memories of days past. its hard to get over an addiction when there are constant reminders everywhere. around every corner and in ever dark place.

and also Cinderella Soul, it depends on the extent of your addiction: what you're addicted to, for how long, your means of injesting said drug, etc. There are too many factors in this world that defy humanity's ability to overcome drug use. There will always be unhappy people, there will always be bad decisions, and there will always be drugs.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cactain_steef replied on Fri Apr 1, 2005 @ 10:32am
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i wanna invent a drug, and call it water. hahah then, evryone would be like YOOO!!!! IM GOINA GET SOME WATER!!1 haha *cries*
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