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National Id Cards
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Nov 19, 2002 @ 4:45pm
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National ID cards
Justin Thompson, CBC News Online | Nov. 14, 2002

Immigration Minister Denis Coderre wants to know what Canadians think about instituting a high-tech national identity card. He says the card could help Canadians avoid delays at the United States border.

Coderre suggested on Wednesday that such a card would be particularly useful for Canadians who may be singled out at the U.S. border based on their country of origin.

What is it?

The national identity card would be used as a means of identification when travelling abroad.

Who would need one?

Only Canadian citizens. Non-citizens are required to carry what is known as a Maple Leaf card, which replaced the Record of Landing.

What information would be carried on the identity card?

Basic information including name and address, as well as a photo and an electronic copy of the bearer's thumbprint, retina or palm. A spokesman for Coderre's office suggested the card-bearer's country of birth would not be listed on the card. Communications director Mark Dunn says that information would not be relevant since the bearer would be a Canadian citizen.

Will this replace my passport?

Although that is not being proposed, Coderre isn't ruling out the idea if that's what Canadians want.

Would I need to have it with me at all times, even in Canada?

No. Coderre's proposed card is aimed solely at Canadians travelling abroad.

Do other countries have similar cards?

Yes.

Hong Kong is set to implement a so-called 'Smart Identity Card' in the spring of 2003. The card will employ biometrics and will be used for immigration and travel purposes. Both thumbprints will be digitized and stored electronically on the card. It's expected the card will fully replace current identification documents by 2004. Cardholders will have the option to add driver's licence and library card information.

Italy has the carta d'identita. It's an ID card carried by Italian citizens at home and abroad. Although the cards don't carry biometric information, they display the bearer's photograph, as well as place and date of birth. The card is available to all Italian citizens over 16 years of age. Although the card is not mandatory, an official with Italy's embassy in Ottawa says they are highly recommended – even for travel within Italy – as Italian police can stop citizens and ask to see identification.

Israel has an official identification document that citizens must carry bylaw by age 16. It's similar to a birth certificate and contains personal information and a photo. Attached to this is a paper that can be updated to list things like marital status. This identification does not contain biometric information. It's used as official identification, but does not erase the need for a separate passport for travel abroad.

Are other countries considering identity cards similar to the one proposed for Canada?

Yes.

After the terrorist attacks on the United States in 2001, both the U.S. and Britain announced they would explore the possibility of implementing identity cards.

An American software company volunteered to donate the software necessary to integrate biometric recognition into the card being considered in the U.S.

Britain is exploring the possibility of adopting an identity card to be used on a voluntary basis. As in the Canadian and American proposals, the card would utilize biometric information. The card is currently under a six-month review.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Nov 19, 2002 @ 5:05pm
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Fuck that ! We're so close to the inner-skin ID ...i want to go away........
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Tue Nov 19, 2002 @ 7:17pm
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I think it's about fucking time.

This is one step closer to a unified ID card that contains medical, dental, and social information that can be read in any country that has access to the central database of registered citizens.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DaRkRaVeR replied on Tue Nov 19, 2002 @ 11:32pm
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I want one :P
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 12:30am
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i think its great... all the info you can ever possibly need on one little card
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Agent_Yogurt replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 12:33am
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but what if you somehow lose it? you are FUCKED
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 12:33am
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*woops, lost mine*
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 11:09am
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Seems like a ggod thing,but it's a way for the governement to gain more control over everyone.They'll get to know EVERYTHING about every single person;it's useful for them 'cos it restrains freedom more and more
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 11:24am
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hahahahahahahhahahahahahaHHahAHhah

silly people with their conspiracy theories.
The government is not out to get you.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 11:45am
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Oh no.
Ian's one of them.
TRUST NO ONE!

(everybody to the limit)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 11:51am
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Buddy
welcome to the new world
Safety > Privacy.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 11:57am
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Neofrom,you say i'm silly ?? I'm not super-paranoid about conspiracy but i think it's there.Not that they want to get us,but they want control for sure.I don't really care 'cos i know i'm free but i'm just sayin'we gotta be careful.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 11:59am
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This safety=privacy thing explains why some rich criminals ends up with no problems and some innocent people are getting beaten'up everywhere (especially in US).Privacy=security for the rich=more power over the poor
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 12:12pm
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hahahaha
dude, the government is run by the people, plain and simple. you vote for those who run the gov... plain and simple. they have no will to make the poor into slaves, and make the rich richer...

we don't like in russia..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 12:53pm
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ian you have to understand that people are idiots... they can't seem to understand that the government is trying to help us, cops too (oh no, ive gone and contrasdicted all the drug users)... drug laws aren't inplace to protect us or anything you know... theyre just there to make us miserable! didnt you know? They government hates all its people, cuz they obviously dont need our support to get voted in.... geez ian, how could you be so dumb!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 1:36pm
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Ok,the government's your friend,trust it and be proud of it,like in US these rednecks with a gun and a flag,enjoy your nice country guys.I'm out.But not stupid.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 1:54pm
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*galaksy flies off to his home planet of ogo where he lives blissfully ever after*
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 2:10pm
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My home planet's the same as yours,but i have a different head and nervous system.Peace
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 9:04pm
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he's an alien! kill him kill him!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Nov 20, 2002 @ 11:52pm
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"hahahaha
dude, the government is run by the people, plain and simple. you vote for those who run the gov... plain and simple. they have no will to make the poor into slaves, and make the rich richer...

we don't like in russia.."

Neoform
read up on your history of america from the past three years and tell me how George Bush is president. It's not because people voted for him, it's because the election was setup from the get go.

I mean, think about it, every time someone comes around with radical ideas that would change america into a freedom loving country, they get assasinated.

Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln, JFK, his brother, his son, Bill Clinton got character assasinated with the Lewinsky scandal, ect...
It's not coincidence.

Then, at the midterms, the democrat poised to change everything, his plane crashes two weeks before the elections. Hmmmmmm....

Don't believe for a SECOND you have ANY control over your country...
National Id Cards
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